i have been suffering from opiate addiction and have been on and off using oxycontin 80mg and heroin for the passed 2 years. yesterday i was placed on suboxone induction to help with withdrawals and it is working but only to a certain point. i feel like the relief im getting dosent last as long as it should and i dont really want to increase the dosage i am on 12 mgs total daily ( 8 mgs in the morning and 4mgs at night). even at this point i feel like the sub dosent work as well as it should because i still am experiencing moderate withdrawals and i would like to switch from suboxone to methadone. i was wondering how i would go about doing this ? i am not sure if the psychiatrist i went to yesterday can prescribe methadone or i would to go to a clinic who probably wont accept me because of my age. but i would be willing to give methadone a shot because i know people who it has worked wonderfully for. anyhelp would be greatly appreciated
Suboxone to methadone ?
Question posted by chris79 on 17 Sep 2009
Last updated on 3 June 2018
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you know the difference ? methadone gets you loaded, suboxone does not.
You need to get to the doctor and get the dose adjusted. I used 4 to 5 grams of H a day i take suboxone 8-2 twice a day. Granted the first few days were not a cake walk, but i wanted to get straight so i gave it a chance, and it was worth it. I feel great !!! I started taking paxil 10mg per day. I have been on it for three days and now i a very messed up back ache. I need the paxil for PMDD or rage out before the monthly cyle. (lol) I HONESTLY feel there are some interactions happening i have not felt good for three days. I wish you the best.
you have to go to a methadone clinic to obtain it. Upping your sub dosage would be the best idea. Sub is less risky of long term dependence then methadone. Its up to you but personally id say sub is the way to go. good luck
Ive been on methadone for 6 years and im trying to get off it too. Im down from 110 mgs to 20 mgs a day but there is still horrible withdrawl if i miss a day. I get take homes so if i take more one day then i suffer one day. It sucks and at the clinic i go to we(the patients) are treated like junkies. I hate that so i called about suboxone today. I dont know which is better but having to go to the clinic everyday for 2 years then every week since gets old quick.
Well psychiatrists can prescribe anything a regular doctor can (including methadone) as long as he sees fit. And if you tell him that you arent getting enough relief he probably wont have a problem with it. However, i dont know how old you are, but cant imagine that a methadone clinic would turn someone away who needs help getting clean. I would suggest the clinic first and if that doesnt work out then talk to the doc
Hey chris it sounds like a lot of these people have been giving you good advise. You should know that when switching from methadone to suboxone is a very delicate matter. There is a different protocol so to speak,when making the change if you had been using methadone. The information on subutex and suboxone will provide you with this advisory,additionally,you mentioned 80 mg of oxycontin, that is some heavy duty stuff to come off of in itself. Methadone is a drug you do not want to become dependant on. Subutex and by now you must be on suboxone is much more up-to date and in the long run will help you out much better than the methadone. Some people need a little more suboxone than others in the first few weeks , 16 mg is the norm but some people need a little more and some a little less. So hang in there buddy,you are comming off some rough stuff.
I have been clean for 3 months now on suboxone doing very well,but in the beginning I NEEDED 20 MG of suboxone plus 75mg of librium! That is how bad off I WAS. If I can do it almost any one can. So check in with the doc, keep busy, get down with a support group if you are not in one and, you can call the here to help program for confidential advise and help regarding questions with suboxone, itis 1-866-973-4373. You can also call the Summer House, their number is online.Good luck ! paulsport3
I actually just went through 4 days cold turkey WD's and I promise you the only thing that helped me was... I didn't care if I had to take 15 showers a day. it takes the skin crawling a way for a little bit. I know it doesnt sound like it would work, but after the frist day of in and out of the shower all I have had is some cold chills physically. The one major thing that you have to get over is the mental. About 80% of what you are going through is mental. You have to be DETERMINED to quit and tell yourself I CAN DO THIS. I don't know if you are a Christian, but GOD has helped me thorough all of this so much. I've been through it all methadone/relapse/hydros just to ease it off/back to methadone/ suboxone. I'm telling 4 to 5 days is what you have to get through. Will Power through God that strengthens me is the only way I've gotten through any of this! Today is day 4 and I have a couple cold chills, but that's it.
I was using heroin about 7 bags a day. DONT go to methadone if your on suboxone, it gets in your bones and makes the wd's 10 times worse cause your body physically hurts so much more. either stick with your suboxone, or just be determined and say to yourself, whats 4 or 5 days compared to the rest of my life!!! ITS WORTH IT EVEN THOUGHT I KNOW IT'S SO SO SO HARD! YOU CAN DO THIS! One more thing I suggest is that once you go through it, go to counciling/ ( which by the way I DID NOT WANT TO EITHER!) but there is a reason emotionally that all users become users!
I recently put on here that I've been addicted to oxycontin. Well, I have been using suboxone to get off of the oxys, but it feels as if it doesn't work. I withdraw badly even after taking 1 and a half suboxone. Today, for the first time, I drank a little dose of liquid methadone... & all I can say is WOW. I felt so normal, & so good. I can't believe how great I felt. I had not 1 sign of withdrawal, as with the suboxone I would be withdrawing so bad. I think that I'm going to try this liquid methadone for 2 days, then maybe a half of a suboxone the 3rd day... and hopefully be done with the oxycontins. I can't do this anymore. The urge to get high kills me..but it's got to stop. And can anybody tell me how much it would cost to go to a methadone clinic & get the liquid methadone without insurance? Thanks...
i know at the clinics in north carolina its around 240 first intake visit and then u have to pay for counceling and then getting dosed is like 500 a month so exspensive if i didnt have medicade i wouldnt be on suboxone
You know for the suboxone to work right from the start you have to be in full withdrawl, no methadone for 2 whole days. Then the Dr does an induction and gives you little bits at a time to ease the transition. I just did it this weekend: I had ot taper my meth from 85 to 40 over a couple months, took my last meth Fri morning, then nothing on Saturday or Sunday. Subs on Monday. It was rough, but if you are truly ready to switch you can do it. If you're just looking to feel good methadone will def do that for you - just like dope. But you will be trapped on methadone - just like dope.
so youve gotton many many replys to your question and by now youve prob gotton it figured out but ive suffered with addiction for 7 years and taken both suboxone and methadone and i take yes your suboxone needs to be way increased i cant belive your doctor has you on such a low dose i take 3 8 mg a day and thats too much i saw how some have wrote that methadone would be a better fix for you and ill be honest you might as well go get you a rig and shoot em up cause its just as bad, i got just as high off methadone as any thing else and many of my friend have said comming off heroin is much easier that methadone,
it took me two months to feel my self again after taking methadone for 4 months i couldnt even hardly move i think it is satan i am taking suboxone now and have been off and on foe 4 years and the withdrawal yes can be rough but none of its gonna be easybut the with suboxone to me is a miracle drug and yes its diff for everyone but i know many of people who as soon as they get off methadone there back on dope the point of suboxone and methadone is to get off the drugs all together one day suboxone is the newest drug to take for dependence use to be methadone was all there was plus the precentage of people that stay clean i think is in the 90 % so please try and stick with the suboxone if you can ive seen people be prescribed as many as 15 a day but ii promiss you its a lot easier than methadone methadone gets into your bones your muscles and takes for ever to get out. i hope this helps and good luck let me know whats working for you
I recently put on here that I've been addicted to oxycontin. Well, I have been using suboxone to get off of the oxys, but it feels as if it doesn't work. I withdraw badly even after taking 1 and a half suboxone. Today, for the first time, I drank a little dose of liquid methadone... & all I can say is WOW. I felt so normal, & so good. I can't believe how great I felt. I had not 1 sign of withdrawal, as with the suboxone I would be withdrawing so bad. I think that I'm going to try this liquid methadone for 2 days, then maybe a half of a suboxone the 3rd day... and hopefully be done with the oxycontins. I can't do this anymore. The urge to get high kills me..but it's got to stop. And can anybody tell me how much it would cost to go to a methadone clinic & get the liquid methadone without insurance? Thanks...
SO WELL IVE TAKEN BOTH AND SUBUTEX BUT SUBUTEX IS FOR PEOPLEfurther along in recovery and usually u can only get subutex at a pain managment dr. i think methadone is the devil its self i wanted to die suboxone ive been on for 4 years and has been life changing and a miracle drug without it i would not have a great fiancea beautiful lil girl and going to school for nursing and this is and was all through using suboxone to help me get my life back. honesty is the best advice and dr allready usually know well councelors there just waiting until your ready congrats u made the first step good luck
Bottom line is that everyone is different. I have friends that speak highly of Suboxone. I myself think it's horrible. Yes, it does help you to come off Oxy's but then you have to detox again off of Sub. Why detox twice? Sub. detox is even harder than Oxy's to get off of. Good luck to all of us... There is no right or wrong answer. Whatever can get us clean is all that matters.
i just want to know if any1 can help me. i'm addicted to oxycontin... especially the 80s..and i've been taking suboxone to try and get off them... but i still feel like i'm withdrawing. i don't kno what to do. i'm really scared..i even went as far as snorting a stampbag bcause i couldn't find any oxys. how many suboxones do i need to take to stop the withdrawals... cause i cant do this anymore!!
whats the miligram of suboxin u are taking u didnt mention?? when i was shooting oxys and addicted they put me on 8mg subs like 3x a day. call your doc and tell him u are still withdrawling and maybe he will up the dose.
hi chris79,in my lifetime i have tryed just about every kind of rehab,detox,medication,acupuncture,being put to sleep,u name it i have tryed it. for the first time in my life i feel diffrent about conquering this gorilla on my back. i go to a methadone-suboxone clinic. they have 175 people on this clinic only 4 people on this clinic are on suboxone, thank god i am 1 of them. im on 24mg of suboxone,8mg 3x a day. i dont even think about getting high/pain free or whatever u wana call it. belive me im in planty of pain. but i just cant go back to that drug life and trying to feel less pain. subs are the only way for me to get over the lifestyle. i needed 1on 1 counseling, and group counseling, N/A meetings. im gona chase this new life of mine as hard as i chased pain management,operations physical therapy. please stay away from methadone its a nightmare. good luck with discussion.
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