I just started 150 ml Bupropion 2 days ago. My doctor recommended it for depression and anxiety. While I do struggle with both as my work and home life are very hectic, I have never taken anything for it. Situations changed and I decided to give it a try to see if it improves my symptoms. However, I am concerned to read the comments about drinking. I do drink wine, everyday. 3-4 glasses and don't plan to stop. But, I see that others say it has made them very sick to drink while on this medication. I certainly don't want seizure side effects. It also says not to quit drinking while on this medication. Confusing. I have noticed though in just two days that smoking tastes terrible and for that I am happy as I do want to quit. Today I'm noticing a strange, sort of off balance (in my head) feeling that I don't like. I am very sensitive to any sort of medication. I want to give this medication a chance but am worried and don't want to wait to stop in a few weeks when my body is dependant and I have to ween myself. But I also don't want to freak my family out by having a seizure after having a glass or two of wine. Any experience with this?
Interactions between your selected drugs:
bupropion ↔ ethanol
Applies to: Wellbutrin (bupropion), Alcohol (contained in alcoholic beverages) (ethanol)
Using buPROPion with alcohol may increase the risk of uncommon side effects such as seizures, hallucinations, delusions, paranoia, mood and behavioral changes, depression, suicidal thoughts, anxiety, and panic attacks. On the other hand, sudden withdrawal from alcohol following regular or chronic use can also increase your risk of seizures during treatment with buPROPion. If you are prone to frequent or excessive alcohol use, talk to your doctor before starting buPROPion. In general, you should avoid or limit the use of alcohol while being treated with buPROPion. Also avoid activities requiring mental alertness such as driving or operating hazardous machinery until you know how the medication affects you. It is important to tell your doctor about all other medications you use, including vitamins and herbs.
Do not stop using any medications without first talking to your doctor.
Notice that besides seizures, this combination can cause anxiety and depression.
I have limited experience with Wellbutrin - tried it and didn't work too well for me. But I do have a LOT of experience with alcohol. I spent a lot of time self-medicating with alcohol with and without my psych meds. And it really screwed me up! I gave up drinking almost 3yrs ago and it's cleared my head to face the real issues in my life.
You don't need it and all it does is harm you, especially if you're already sensitive to medications.
Wean yourself off slowly or at least cut back dramatically. As for your off-balance feeling, it probably is a side effect, common with any of these medications, that will subside after a week or so as your body adjusts.
While it is true that alcohol increases the likelihood of seizure especially if stopped suddenly, Wellbutrin (bupropion) at a low dose is unlikely to cause a seizure. I don't recommend drinking while taking an antidepressant as alcohol is a depressant itself. None the less, I drink and I take Wellbutrin without any ill effect. Give the medication a chance to work, upwards of a month, and you may find that drinking becomes less of a need.
Having taken Wellbutrin for years, I view this matter a bit differently. There is no argument whatsoever that Wellbutrin lowers the seizure threshold. There is no argument that alcohol lowers the seizure threshold. Voila.
Beyond that, everyone reacts differently to drugs, but I assure you there is good reason the mandatory warning says "No Alcohol" instead of "limit alcohol" or "a few glasses of wine are ok." You're playing with fire here.
I'm likewise concerned that you're minimizing your alcohol consumption and fiercely protective of it! eg 'I don't plan to stop." You refer to having "3-4 glasses" per day and later "a glass or two" of wine. This is concerning in itself to me as a retired substance abuse counselor.
Please know I'm not judging you, nor am I calling you a problem drinker BUT you may have been self-medicating for years, just trying to keep your anxiety/depression under control.
For a lot of really good reasons, try to give up the wine or do limit it to one glass. Wellbutrin is one of those drugs that must build up in your system. Give it the time and opportunity to do its work!!
I hope it does work for you and you're soon feeling much better without depending so much on the wine. Please keep us informed. I'd be happy to to reply by PM as well.
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Thank you everyone. All feedback is welcome even if its not intended for my question. Not that I have to explain nor do I feel judged which is nice but yes I agree I have probably been self medicating for years. I am hopeful that the Wellbutrin will do its magic and help me curve my appetite for wine as well as smoking. While i'm certainly not in denial that 3-4 glasses is on the heavy side it's over a period of hours. Cooking dinner, doing homework, laundry, cleaning, etc. by the time my kids are in bed it is 9pm and that's the first time I sit down from my day. Like all parents I'm sure! We all have different forms of anxiety and depression and mine is that I can't make more hours in a day and I can't stop to rest because failure is not an option. I truly appreciate all of your answers. Good luck to all.
If you want to meet your local police cause you elect to drink too much while on Wellbutrin, just do both. I blacked out and was spotted by a local hotel for running around half crazy claiming I was robbed. I never blackout... and while meeting with my local police, my blackout ended and avoided jail. I later did some research on the combo and feel lucky I was not tazed and restrainted all night like an unfortunate lady somewhere on the web who suffered greatly from the same combo. Same deal for her - she left her house and went for a run blacked out. Nuts!!! Cost her about $10k.
Before you judge, I was FBI phase candidate 2 and am squeaky clean and that almost ended with Wellbutrin and alcohol.
I feel I must share my horrific story. I’ve been on Wellbutrin for about 2 1/2 months. I have a few drinks a couple times a month and have had no ill effects of being on Wellbutrin. However, on Christmas Eve, just a few days ago I drank a lot more than normal, was having a great time, noticed I was a lot drunker than I should of been. My family hosted Christmas and after everyone left a simple conversation with my husband turned into complete hysteria for no reason. He’s a police officer and after he went to bed I went into his safe and took out his gun and contemplated my life. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I’VE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT. I’m not a severely depressed person or suicidal, the thought never crossed my mind. After sitting in fetal position on the floor for an hour I put his gun back and went and told him I was suicidal and put his gun in my mouth (which wasn't true) and thatour family might be better off without me.
I can’t stress enough that this is just not me. It was like an out of body experience. I’m so FREAKED out as is he. I didn’t realize how dangerous it can be to drink. In addition I completely blacked out putting gifts under tree from Santa, etc. I wasn’t even that depressed when I went on them, I heard good things that Wellbutrin was a good pick me up and you can loose weight with it. I threw out my pills, so done with that. Going to go a holistic route with diet and meditation. Just be aware. I think I seriously damaged my marriage with this. I keep telling him it was the wellbutrin booze combo, but not sure he believes me. What a nightmare. Please heed my warning and be careful combining the two. We’ve been together for 15 years and this type of hysteria has never happened, ever.
My doctor prescribed this drug for 2 reasons: 1) Smoking Cessation (and it really does help!). #2) Depression. I drink beer, daily. I haven't encountered any problems. If anybody has a desire to quit smoking, I STRONGLY recommend you ask your doctor for Wellbutrin or Bupropion (generic name). It really helps.
About the author S.A.D. sufferer 25 years i live above 45th parallel so its common I also suffer anxiety acutely at times.
You wrote: "Today I'm noticing a strange, sort of off balance (in my head) feeling that I don't like"
I took this crap for 95 days ,that strange balance is just the effect it is supposed to be this is what i referred to as the FLAT effect.. I felt nothing not happy not sad , not excitable , u couldn't piss me off,if i had a gun pointed at me ,i didn't care, I would not laugh at anything no mater how funny. Some how I think this is exactly what it is supposed to do.. it would also explain suicidal tendencies while using it ( think about that one no up no down whats the use??? )
SO UNLESS you are diagnosed Manic -Depressive disorder.. , or have SAD Seasonal Affected Disorder! REALLY BAD!!! and will be able to dump it in 60 70 days.. Tell your health care professional. No I will not take this crap ever again.get something for mild anxiety to get you buy till u feel better . Humans are not supposed to live in FLAT state! we are after all Predator as well as Prey animals. I feel these drugs are a first world problem ( as opposed to a 3rd world )
We think we should always be happy and unafraid NOT TRUE!
Any Doctors reading this i hope i have not hurt your feelings or stepped on toes. , in my humble But Correct opinion these type of drugs are over prescribed.
OH AND P.S.: Real answer ,, I didn't stop drinking 1-2 drinks 1-3 times a week never suffered seizure.. ALTHOUGH i believe what i said up top is important! i also find it odd i could not use username RecoveringWellbutrinUser even though it met the criteria??? HMMMMM? GSK are u listening ???
I also had a reaction with a combo of an anti-depressant and alcohol. Not with Wellbutrin which I am now on, but with a different one. My suggestion is don't chance it. After my incident, ending up in hospital hallucinating and losing 5 days of my life/memory... its not worth it. I was also a wine drinker on my nights off work, but I am too scared to risk it. Everyone reacts differently but what if you are that someone? Your mental health is more important than some alcohol. I am now on 300mg and my daughter sees a better me than the depressed person I once was. It's worth taking and giving it a chance:):)
I looked up drinking with welbutrin after my last couple incidents. NOT NORMAL. I know it was the combination of the drug and the alcohol. Ive been feeling sick and weak and the side effects are times 10. I don't want to combine the two, I love the way the welbutrin makes me feel. I enjoy life. So much that when friends invite me to go drinking I don't say no. From now on though I need to make sure I NEVER mix the two again. I am lucky I didn't do anything stupid or hut anyone. I did black out and pee on my friends love seat. Don't remember that. And I've been feeling like my head is somewhere in the clouds. I can't get it together. UGH.
I'm sooo happy I found this forum. Here's my story. I hurt my back at work 3 1/2 years ago I've been out of work almost the entire time. In the time I've been hurt I've drank a lot more. It's the only thing that helps with my pain. No meds have worked. I've tried them all. I don't want to take narcotics. I tried Percocet. It was hit and miss. Therefore more alcohol. I felt depression creeping In about 3 months Into my Injury. I went to a DR. He prescribed Zoloft. It worked fine. I've always drank since the age of 21. I'm 43 now. I continued to drink on Zoloft. A lot. Zero problems. I felt better about a year ago. About X-mas time I could feel depression creeping In again. I "held it off" with drinking. Then One day almost a month ago I went and saw a movie. One scene that wasn't even sad I just started crying. Right then and there I knew I needed to go get back on meds.
Over the past year my alcohol consumption has dropped. It's still a lot but it's dropped. Saw my DR, told him my problems. He prescribed WELLBUTRIN. Cool. I started taking it. During the first week I went to drink I could only drink 1 or 2. I just couldn't drink anymore. I thought odd. I had almost no appetite either. (I didn't realize that was a side effect.) Then 8 days later I went and hung out with a friend. We started to drink rum. I remember having 2 drinks. Next thing I know I woke up in bed fully clothed (LUCKILY). I have a very high tolerance to alcohol. I was like WTF? Went downstairs to talk to my buddy. He told me what happened. He said I seemed fine I was just louder than normal, I called a woman I "WAS" seeing put It on speaker and was totally inappropriate. Then I was going to go out to my car to get something. I just never came back. He went to find me I was just sitting outside. This was over the course of about 5 hours. I've drank much more plenty of times. This incident scared me. I've NEVER blacked out like that EVER. I looked WELLBUTRIN up that morning. Found all types of info and this forum. This has scared me so badly I haven't drank In 2 weeks now. I haven't gone this long without a drink since I was 20. I know I've been self medicating the past 3 1/2 years. I'm going to give this a real chance to work though. Cause I know how bad I'm depressed. I've felt it work a little the past 3 days but my depression Is so bad I know I need real help. I've seen It can take up to 6 weeks to really work. I never thought I was an alcoholic. I always thought I could stop if I wanted to. I miss drinking. I can't wait for this med to kick in and do it's thing. I WILL NOT DRINK AGAIN UNTILL I'M OFF THIS THOUGH. It's terrifying.
Wow, SarahWowz and everybody on this forum. Thank You all for being so candid. I have my bottle of Wellbutrin in hand. Was not warned by my doctor about alcohol, so I am sitting here, reading all of your comments because I just read the warning on bottle.
I have had emotional outbursts, crying/rage just from prozac; stopped taking that 2 months ago. I have PTSD, GAD, Depression, frequent panic attacks. For me, alcohol helps with all of my symptoms. But I am not in denial that my drinking has become too frequent and quite the crutch.
I'm not sure how to start these 100 MG pills now. Usually I take a quarter of whatever it is to start for first week. I think I will try this with Wellbutrin. I know this comment is not of any help to anyone. But to join in on an ongoing conversation if I can help anyone else and myself would be great. So tonight and tomorrow I will be having some beer. After that, I am going to start the Wellbutrin at 25 mgs for few days then 50 then 100 and see if two to three beers drives me nuts.
Family trip to Las Vegas in January, never mind the holidays before. I really don't think I can do any of that without drinking. So I'm starting my own experiment here and will update you guys as to what happens with me.
I know this is very scary and confusing for all of us and my next post will just add to the confusion. But, all we can do is share and try to learn right?
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