... years and it worked great, but it was so expensive. So, I recently started taking 2-20mg over the counter pills a day instead of the 1-40mg tablet …my pharmacist said this should be the same thing. It isn't working! I have had acid reflux and heartburn worse than I've had in 2 years. Can the over the counter pills really be THAT different, or is it a coincidence that my symptoms have flared up at the same time I switched over? I haven't changed my diet or anything else in my lifestyle recently and I have been under no stress recently. Has anyone else shared this type of complaint?
I have been taking over the counter Nexium for 1 month now. I have taken Rx nexium for several?
Question posted by dboling on 10 July 2014
Last updated on 6 May 2023
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My Doctor told me that Generic drugs were the SAME INGREDIENTS,,, but there is either 20% more or 30% less in every lot, so what you were taking could be different from the last generic prescription... could it be that this over the counter Nexium has this "problem" also??? I have not tried the over the counter Nexium but was going to try it... not now. BTW, your pharmacist SHOULD tell you about the generic differences, but many DO NOT>>>>>
By law generic drugs must have the same ACTIVE ingredient, but can have different inactive ingredients. Nexium OTC does have the same amount of active ingredient but some differences in the inactive ingredients (see my post above). Which is why AstraZeneca wants to hear from those that are having problems with it. I have taken many generic drugs with great results, Nexium OTC is not one of them, but many people are doing well on it. If it is the drug your doctor prescribes, or your insurance requires, try it, it may work great for you.
I too had this very same issue with otc Nexium. It didn't work at all. I have been taking 40 mg twice a day of the rx version and it worked. My insurance did not want to pay for rx nexium. The only way I finally got United healthcare to pay for it was a lot of work and pain
Here is the kicker, they will not pay for a nexium capsule. They will pay for the suspension form of nexium. It is a paim in the neck. It comes in a little packet and you have mix it yourself with 1 tbsp of water. My doctor had to write a letter and state that I have taken all the other rx's for gerd. She stated I could not tolerate the others. This seems to be the accepted words. I also got my dr to write me a rx for the pills and I bought a bottle at Costco out of pocket for convenience. It isn't always practical to pull out a little packet, a tbsp of water, and mix it up in a glass at a restaurant table to take before you eat.
Yes. Depending on what lab make the generic - wether it be one in Germany or one in India you could be getting 20% more active ingredient or 20% less. A real problem for drugs like topamax which is take for essential tremors. One month you get 20% extra from Germany the next month 20% less from India and your having withdraw symptoms plus wondering why it doesn't work. With some drugs it is best to insist on name brand only.
Yes the generic has to have the same ingredients to be called generic. As per my druggist the difference us i. The filler only.
If you are seeing a pharmacist at a chain drug store, they are brainwashed to push generics because they make about 85% profit on them versus 10%. THey will swear that generics "work" the same, but most of them are young and have never suffered GERD!! The publicly owned pharmacies are all about profit! They feel they are protected by the wording of the generic guidelines and have little empathy for the patient. Go to a locally owned pharmacy for the truth. Even morally driven, older pharmacist at chains have too much pressure from their corporate office to maintain high profitability. It's a shame.
My pharmacists are with Meijer, a large chain in MI, and they have fought my insurance company on my behalf for the last 4 years. They also didn't want to fill the prescription for the generic as they knew it would not work for me because of the ferrous oxide. I think sometimes it has to do with the individual pharmacist and the relationship you have with them.
Like all of you, I have not responded well to OTC Nexium after using it for over a month. I was on RX 40 mg 1-2 a day for over 12 years to control my GERD and Barrettes Esophagus. Had to fight with my insurance last year & finally got approval 10/28/14 and they took it away 1/1/15. I went straight from the Rx to the OTC, taking 2-20 mg OTC, expecting it to work. I then went to 2 doses a day, to no avail. Insurance claims it's the exact same. I've been researching & found OTC has corn starch, ferric oxide, sucrose & pharmaceutical ink not in RX. RX has sugar spheres and some things in the capsule shell. Perhaps it is the iron in the OTC that is aggravating all of us. Both Astra Zeneca & Pfizer are collecting information like this from patients so please call them. They can transfer you from one to the other so it should be only one call. Only if we stand up for our own health, can we make the insurance companies listen. I'm still fighting.
Maryjaye... thanks for doing the research! You might be onto something about the iron in the OTC. I too got cut off from Nexium by my insurance company and the generic doesn't work. I went straight to the 40 mg OTC and after a Month and a half and it's like i'm not taking anything at all for it. Complete nightmare. I am calling both Astra Zeneca & Pfizer as I have nothing to lose! Thanks again...
Talk to a class action lawyer
where are you getting 20mg ? the OTC are 23 mg? are they not?
and this commercial that I saw said we can get 40mg by prescription for 15 $
How does that work if the insurance won't approve the request
The OTC is 22.3 mg of esomeprazole magnesium trihydrate which supposedly is 20 mg of Esomeprazole. If you go to AZ & Me web site you can see what options are available to help you with cost of RX. Insurance can refuse to pay, but if your dr wants you on it, AZ & Me has programs to help you afford it. You have to get refusal of coverage from insurance for some of the programs. That's also where you 'll find coupons. Hope this helps.
Nexium just went generic so have your doctor re summit to insurance
Like all of you I've had simikuar problems. Been on some type of other of these drugs over 30 yrs! Starting w the really old type & after some time it stops working, but the Nexium works! But my insurance wouldn't cover it, with the dr's telling them I had to be on it my copay was still too expensive. I got accepted into the AZ& ME program where they sent it to me free the last two years! However, yesterday I got a letter saying they are discontinuing it from the program. SERIOUSLY!! Since I've tried the itc previously with Prevacid, finding its NOT the same as the prescription, & after reading everything you all wrote here I'm not even going to try. So than you, you all saved me the time & expense.
I have enough until January, after that I don't know what I'm going to do.
Generic Nexium did not work for me.
Generic Nexium did not work for me.
I called AstraZeneca and they have informed me that they have no clinical proof yet that two 20mg Nexium is or isn't the same as one 40mg. However, they did say that they have been receiving numerous calls saying two 20mg does not work the same as one 40gm Nexium. For me it does not work the same.
shelter, I'm just curious, how long did you give it a try? dboling said eventually it started to work for him after a longer time. But I have now tried for 6 weeks, I totally agree it still does not work, but I am still trying a little bit longer if I can deal with the increased acid symptoms.
I did the switch for about 3 months.
Pfizer makes Nexium OTC 20mg. AstraZeneca makes the prescription Nexium 40mg. Also anyone can go to www.purplepill.com and print off a saving coupon where you can get the prescription 40mg for $15 a month. And if the doctor writes the prescription for 90 days then it is only $30 total.
I have read many posts above; it seems many have poor results with OTC Nexium even when they double up on the half-strength pills. I used the Rx version beginning 3 or 4 years ago, thanks largely to the discount card which gave me a $20 monthly cost. This even dipped down a notch in late 2014, only to nearly disappear when I tried to refill in April 2015. I switched to OTC because the cost was so low; in fact I started taking just one 22.3 mg capsule a day (which made the monthly cost well under the $20), and things seemed to be going well. That is, until I landed in the hospital in early June with erosive esophagitis and blood in my stool. Docs had me take 4 OTC pills a day (2 caps twice daily) for several weeks, after which I had an endoscopy showing I had healed up nicely. Backed off to 2 a day which I am still on, and doing well as far as I can tell. I am booked for another endoscopy in early December.
I have to wonder why 40 mg is the standard dose for Rx Nexium, but half that for the OTC. And why is the OTC labeled as a drug for a 14 day course of treatment? As if that’s going to cure the problem forever? Nobody has ever cautioned me about using it as a maintenance drug at 40 mg/day.
But my main beef here is: how can Astra Zeneca justify the high sticker price for the Rx version when the OTC version is a fraction of the price on a per-milligram basis? Esomeprazole is just that, no different or better if it requires a prescription. The only way some of us can afford it is with the maker’s “voucher” or discount card, in combination with insurance, which in my case still leaves a pretty high out of pocket cost for me. The bottom line is that the maker is overcharging big-time, and the insurance companies are enabling this practice by paying so much in this case. And remember, when we pay our insurance premiums, we all pay for overcharging even if we are not affected directly.
A study will never be done if it wasn't done for the original trials, so just go by your own experience. As a former rep for AZ, this will always be anecdotal. Especially since it went generic and profits decreased by 95%.
I gave the over the counter a bit longer, and now it seems to be working fine. Not sure why the first few months wasn't going well, but my body seems to have adjusted now. Thankfully.
dboling, I am just curious, how long would you say it took before the change occurred and you actually started noticing real significant improvement with the OTC results? I have read that an increased acid reflux rebound effect can last for 2-3 months for long term users of PPIs when they discontinue PPI treatment. I was just wondering if this might be slightly similar to a 2-3 month rebound effect of increased acid just due to changing to a different formula like we have.
Nexium 24Hr OTC is not working for me either! I have taken Nexium 40mg RX for over 3 years with most of my GERD/ LPR symptoms under control. In addition, I have been on Nexium and other long term PPIs for 23 years now. My insurance will no longer cover the Nexium 40mg RX prescription. I decided to try taking (2) of the Nexium 24Hr OTC/day. I am now suffering a terrible increase in stomach acid and my GERD / LPR symptoms are way out of control! I have decided to continue to see if this might be some type of rebound effect from stopping the RX version suddenly, so I have continued to give Nexium 24Hr more time. But as of today, it has been 6 weeks since the change. I truly believe Nexium 24Hr OTC does NOT work anything like the Nexium RX prescription version! In another week or so if I still see no change or symptoms continuing to get worse, I believe I will have to give Dexilant or another alternate PPI a try.
Hi
Sorry to know this
But I wonder why we should rely on Nexium alone ??
There are many natural home remedies like AC Vinegar, mustard paste etc etc for GERD
Having Alkaline foods and water as much as possible
Then a proper diet plan along with it will help alleviate the symptoms
A cheat day in a week won’t b a issue then
So instead of paying more on Meds can’t we organize?
NB-SIDE EFFECTS ???
I'm having the same problem. Just wanted to let you know that you're not crazy. :)
I too am having the identical issue when switching from Rx to OTC. Am taking 2-20mg per day, and it is not working for me either. Effective 10/1/14, my doctor must pre-certify my Rx AND my co-pay has increased dramatically, making the Rx unaffordable. Has anyone has success with alternative generics? I finally had my GERD under control, so this is very frustrating.
Yes! I am having the same thing! I have breakthrough heartburn everyday now and germ at night. Before switching, I had it under contriol. There has to be some difference.m am seeing my doctor tuesday and I am going to ask him. I too can't afford the prescription dose. It is a 100 dollars a month for me withrescrition copay.
I am having problems too, after 20 yeas on Nexium 40 mg , I started two of the over the counter Nexium 24, expecting good results at a cheaper price.
All of the symptoms that I had twenty years ago are coming back. How can this be. I am physician . I don't understand unless the 20mg are not really 20mg and it is some kind of deception. I don't think it is neurotic because I actually expected no difference, just less money. I am been very surprised and alarmed by the return of the symptoms. Do I get a new GI work up or try to find a way to get the prescription Nexium back? I wish knew the truth and don't go through a work up due to mis labeling of a drug.
I'm having the same issues as you all are. My pharmacist told me the OTC goes into the body in a different form & your body must convert it and that my body wasn't doing the conversion. My insurance won't cover the RX either, even with documentation that the OTC doesn't work!
Generic aciphex (raberprozale) works very well but I prefer nizatidine only because is an h2 blocker and all but 2 meds work for me . Raditadine and omeprozale
Population control if we die of esophageal cancer
I am so glad that i found this site. I have been having the same problems with switching to over the counter Nexium from a script because insurance won't pay for it anymore, even with a Doctor's preauthorization the copay is way too much for most people to swallow. I found that the generic did not agree with me and then I had an allergic reaction to Dexilant which was suggested and would be covered by insurance . I too have had pharmacists and Doctors tell me the over the counter Nesium was the same but its not. One of them did confess that they don't work the same. Why Nexium is so expensive is beyond me, they are only hurting themselves by shutting out insurance plans and customers like us with exorbitant pricing. Insurance companies will be sorry they did not cover this drug when Doctors need to order an Endoscopy for all of us having continued problems.
I am not a physician or a pharmacist, but I have been on Nexium 40mg once a day for 9 years now to control GERD and Reflux due to a very weak LES (Lower Esophageal Sphincter). I was luckily able to switch to the generic of Nexium when it came out without issue - but from my reading, I understand that Nexium used a patented delivery mechanism different than the generic. Even though the medicine and total amount is equal, prescription Nexium, to my knowledge, contains small beads of the medicine within the main pill each encapsulated in their own enteric coating for delayed release. I do not believe the generic has this. So the difference may be 40mg all at once vs 40mg delivered consistently over 24 hours.
I have been taking Nexium 40 mg. for almost 10 years. A few months ago I tried the OTC 20 mg 2 X daily. I had the same problem that I had with most other proton pump inhibitors before starting Nexium 40... increased motility ( about 10 BMs a day, irritable bowel, gas cramping) I tried OTC because of the HUGE price for the RX now. Plus there was break through on the acid because taking it the second time was not on a totally empty stomach and not as affective. I went back to the RX but I have now been having problems with it. The same reaction. I know that the delivery system was different in the OTC and now I am wondering if they have also changed the delivery on the RX version. It worked fine for me for almost 10 years and now gas and multiple BMs daily since I tried the OTC. Really frustrating.
The OTC has ferris oxide in it that the RX does not. It is iron. Some of us have a real problem with it, others have no problem at all. If you are using the OTC take 2 in the morning, rather than using it 2x a day. That will give you the same amount of active ingredient as the RX. Sometimes when you get out of whack, it takes a while to get back. Watch what you eat, avoid things that can cause problems like salad, excess veggies, dairy, etc. You might try 40 mg 2x/day if your Dr approves to get back in control. Good luck.
Hi Dboling,
It may be time for you to change brands. That happens sometimes when you go off and try to go again.
There should be no difference. Its the same manufacturer as the prescription ones.
They are not the same manufacturer. Prescription is AstraZeneca, OTC is Pfizer.
NOT true, the generic or over the counter could be the SAME INGREDIENTS, but could be 20% more or 30% less than the BRAND in each new LOT.. I was told this by my Dr. and verified by several pharmacists, although they do NOT like to tell you that... good luck
As someone stated, the difference in potency of a generic might be 20% less OR 20% more within the same bottle; therefore, a 40% swing in efficacy can be a serious problem. THe brand name is only allowed a plus or minus 10%. Much more controlled. Imagine if you take 4 days of plus 20% efficacy, then the next day it is negative 20%!!! You can have major reflux!!
Also, the fillers in the medicine can be whatever the manufacturer wants, versus the well studied fillers used for efficacy during FDA trails. Generics are only required to have the same principal ingredients, not fillers (delivery systems). Even by the ones having the manufacturers name on the generic. They usually hire a generic producer that has less quality standards and only profit in mind. I was in pharmaceutical sales for over 40 years, and this was well known. We even sold against generics using this rationale.
IT IS NOT THE SAME !!! No one knows my body like ME !!! I have been taking the 40 Mg Prescription NEXIUM FOR DECADES with FULL SUCCESS. Now Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Louisiana REFUSES to cover this medication. Their words are the OTC is the SAME!!! Well it is NOT. I have been taking it for 2 mos. and have constant Pain. The medications are not the same. I am renewing my fight for MY HEALTH BENEFITS !!!
Revseb, the OTC, as well as all the generics, has ferrous oxide in it, a form of iron. Many of us cannot handle that. Get your Dr on your side & fight for a prior authorization. When I had BCBS in Michigan, my Dr got me a lifetime of the policy waiver. My new insurance fought us like hell, finally giving me a 3 month waiver, stating we would have to go through the process every 3 months & it took a month of fighting each time. The third time my Dr's staff & I both went after them about the stupidity of this and won a 1 year approval. Point out that your body cannot handle the iron. Keep fighting, it's your health & life. I'll keep you in my prayers.
They are two different manufacturers. Pfizer makes the Nexium OTC, Astra Zeneca makes the prescription form. We too are going through s dilemma trying to decide what to do for Barrett's Esophagus since our Medicare RX plan does not have Nexium on formulary! It is s but daunting to switch to generic or otc after getting amazing healing with Nexium RX.
FWIW, while I was taking the prescription version I was taking it twice a day, per Dr.'s prescription since my reflux is so bad. Obviously, check with your Dr first, but it might help you to in addition to taking 2 of the 20 mg pills daily to take the dose twice daily or just one 20 mg pill for the second dose.
I would consider fighting, again, except that due to the fact that I'm on Medicare now it would be pretty much moot. I'd end up in the doughnut hole and paying for a significant percentage of my prescriptions myself regardless. I do think however that we should all be fighting for a law to prevent manufacturers and insurance companies from being able to do these sorts of things to people. We aren't a numbers game. We are living, breathing, feeling lives. Ethics seems to be a concept which is long forgotten and doesn't apply in politics and big business. THAT is what we need to be fighting so that we don't have to keep continuing to fight these unethical battles.
There is a difference in the fillers which make up the delivery system, and in the 10 to 20 percent the FDA allows, which when both combined, can mean a significant difference in how much, and whether or not the drug is reaching it's target in the same manner as the original formula. Both of these will affect a person. If the drug has the same active ingredients but isn't able to reach the receptor's in the same way the original formula does, then it will seem ineffective. Same goes for that up to 20% difference generics are allowed. So if cheap filler's and a 20% drop in active ingredients are present, it only makes sense why people are feeling that the generics do not work the same.
Probably just different enough to set a rebound off , I would try doubling up on 40mg and / or take anti acids or h2 blocker until I got my acid under control , then back off to normal amount . My g.i. Doc does that when he has switch meds or sometimes just when I get same pills with different manufacturers . Ask your g.i. First thou I hope you find relief
Nope not working ovc nexium.. it is not the same. My ins. no longer covers my 40 mg. I've been taking 2 nexium and its a joke!!! Discusted !!! going to have to add another antacid with it or go back to doctor to try something new. Why do they do this I'll tell u why$$$$.
As a former pharmaceutical rep and manager 30 years in the industry, I can tell you that generics ONLY have the same amount of active ingredients, which does not make the product work the same. Separate studies have to show that the fillers, the other ingredients and delivery system in the pill, deliver the drug consistently and at proper therapeutic levels for clinical efficacy to the FDA. Even though the manufacturer still has its' name on the pill, they often cut costs by changing the fillers; therefore, altering the original efficacy. Generic companies NEVER have to submit ANYTHING to the FDA to show efficacy, and they use whatever is cheapest at the time of manufacture. That means that the same batch number can have variances of +-20 percent. So in the same bottle, you can take one pill one day that is minus 20% efficacy from original, and the next day you can take one that is +20%.
Or you can take several pills that are up to -20% and then all of a sudden have one that is +20%. This fluctuation is what gives side effects and below therapeutic doses. THat is what you get when you "SAVE" money with a generic. Also, the pharmacy companies make a tremendous amount of profit selling generics they know are not the same, while telling you they are; therefore, being biased towards their stockholders. While a manufacturer's price is limited under FDA guidelines, but is more consistent in it's effect.
Did 20 mg prescription nexium work for you? If it didn't you might try taking 3 of the OTC nexiums all at the same time and see if that works. OTC's contain 10 to 20% less meds than the real thing and they probably don't absorb as well as the real thing (just guessing that making the ingredients in a form that is well absorbed also costs money)
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