Daughter been receiving methadone, states they've increased it once. the side effects of excessive drowsiness, and clamminess, seem like the dose was increased too much too fast. On methadone since November ( 1 1/2 months).
Is drowsiness excessive methadone dosage?
Question posted by adnerm on 8 Jan 2011
Last updated on 30 December 2017
Dose started at 30 mg., believe it to be 60 mg. now.
Added 28 Jan 2011:Three weeks later, the methadone dose is at 55 mg a day. Daughter has made the decision to stop using dope and to plan to get off methadone. The plan seems to be the problem.
The information on this page reflects personal experiences shared by our community members. It is not reviewed for medical accuracy and should not replace professional medical advice.
5 Answers
I cannot say abou the dose specifically each person the dose is individualized according to the person and their need some side effects is sedation, euphoria, constipation it is used as maintenance therapy for individuals addicted to opiates bringing the person down and then also used for treatment of chronic pain I hope I have been able to be of help wishing you and your daughter the best,
OMG Dont let doctors do that!!! Methadone is very strong medication And she can overdose and die easy. If she is sleepy the dose is TOOO MUCH!!! If she has proper dose she shouldnt sleep more then 8 hours. Having low energy is mostly due to other drug use. I quit methadone myself. Just recently. I was lowering my dose in half every day. And I never had low energy. And I am sure that your daughter doesnt even need 30 mils(its a base dose to make you wired for sure< from which its hard to overdose) If the doctor raised it from 30 to 60 means that doctor only wants your daughter to be more wired. The bigger the dose the more addicted you get, and the more harder it is to lower. Doesnt matter how much she used before(of heroin or oxicotone) Methadone is different medication and acts differently. I never went over 38 mils and Thanx God I didnt. because it took me atleast 2 month to get off that dose.
Aldorado!! Excellent advice!! I truly hope this parent listens to you and gets more involved with her doctor. Delete those numbers, get away from the friends who use, and get that dose lowered. You are a wonderful advocate. I hope you stay and continue to contribute!!
I think she is pissed off at me :) Dont know for what, but might be for that comment I left on top ;)
regarding: Chance4real life :)
Thank you for your input. It is much appreciated. Right now daughter is on 55 mg.a day. She now has signed me on as being able to participate in her care. So now, I will find out Tues. if they can lower it by only 2 or 3 mg. instead of the 5 or 10 mg. every 3 days. Does that sound good. She sounds as though she really is done with dope. However, I am unable to get her interested in anything. She frequently complains of boredom. This is painful for me because I've been putting part of my life on hold, but not nearly as painful if she would OD. I'm told I should use tough love: no money, no rides, etc. I find this difficult. I do not give money out as freely as before. I give her a ride everywhere, and it is taking its toll on me. I am tired. I guess it's not as bad, as when she was using H. Then, I worried about her alive or dead every day. I like you comments, but don't seem to get then quick enough.
If your daughter needs a ride all the time to some "guys: "girls" friends whatever means she is using most likely. Its very rare that drug user or ex. user friends are not using themself> Unless you know personally those friends their parents who has no complains about success of their children. I am different case, I was actually hiding from my friends that I am using. Only my ex girlfriends(who got me into this) and couple of freinds who got wired themselfs knew about it. So as my parents didnt, until month ago my mom founds 6 bottles of methadone. And I am thankfull to God she did. To be honest you are the one who should be giving examples to your daughter. Because while we are children our parents are the model for us. My mom was supporting me, and when it was hard I could talk to her about my feeling. And you absolutely must find something for her to do. Actually she should find something to do. Get her snowboarding, skiing what ever.
Spot on my Russian friend.
She may be lying to me about wanting to quit dope. I am just heartbroken and constantly searching for ways to help. I know that it must be a self fulfulling need to stop. But, she claims her "friends" want her to stop too. However, I know none of them. Then, out all night last night. Her 21st birthday comes up Feb 11. She wants to plan a night out "for a drink - not much". I have no control. I can only pray for God's Will. I am afraid. And, when I find paraphanalia in her room, she claims they are old stuff.
This is very sad indeed. I know how much you want to believe your daughter. But you really can't right now. Those are classic excuses and I would not trust her at the moment. I know its Gods will, but you are the dad too. Do whatever it takes to get your daughter clean. Go through her room with a fine tooth comb that way she can not say it's old stuff. YOU will know better. Tough love is the hardest love to give someone. I would go so far as to follow her on her birthday, you may be saving her life. It's a difficult job being the parent of a drug addict. I know, I've been there too. And I have followed my daughter. Please don't give her money on her birthday, give her a nice gift instead. Be strong! I will keep you in my prayers.
Obviesly if it was her "old staff" and If she quit, she would throw everything aways for sure. This is actaully usualy easiest step, and you do it right away when you decide to quit. I throw them many times before actualy quiting. So if she still has it, she is not even thinking of quiting. And Christine is right. You cant really do much. As I said, you quiting for her is pointless. And STOP stressing yourself about it. Why you should be killing yourself for her, who is not even willing to stop The only way as I said to push her to be willing to quit. Become very strict, if she is dependent on your money STOP giving it to her. Tell her if she is not home by 11pm youll change locks. Most likely she will pretend that she understands and she is willing to quit, thats it I am quiting mom (all this excuses crap). But the only way to check is to go get urine checked. Usualy heroin users doesnt stay without it for a week. Also its very importent.
Also very importen. All drug users go through life in waves. Most days when you dont think to stop, and some days you are thinking to stop, realizing how bad it is etc. And it keeps constently going up down. So try to find a time when she has this moments of "willing to stop"
Thank you for your input. Now, I am not sure she really wants to quit. I am afraid that she is lying, she is still secretative about her friends, what they do, and they go to hotels
Try all these things We recomend. Because I went through this myself. And I am still 22. So I know exactly whats going on in her head. And telling you the things my, and other peoples parents did. As a last drop. Do what Christine said. Take her phone away, Anything which would be able to connect back with her friends. Make sure you take the whole phone, If you pay for cellphone, cancel that number, switch home number. Tell her you are doing this last time. Go to the pharmacy with her, get urine checked, Dont forget there must be steam around walls if its fresh. Because I completly understand her. We as humans have to be socialy active.So if she doesnt have any "normal" friends its very hard for her not to keep coming back. Couse she might decide to quit, sit home for a week and then feel so bored and lonely she will go back where she started.
By the way. If your daughter and her co-users rent hotels. Means there parents dont really know what they are doing. try to find where those peoples parents live. Just go there and bust out all the truth You acting as a group, might be very succesfull. Because then authority will go from different sides. And most likely those parent will ban there kids to meet up again.
Alderado88.
I'm not angry about your above comment, just have not checked site in long time. No I am not using, only drink my methadone every morning 50mg- besides the done making me tired, I also went from working full time to part time due to getting married and husband wants me home. So maybe some of the effects can be lazyness?? I don't know. Was at 75mg and seemed to have more energy but have been at 50mg for months now, still feeling sleepy all day...
Dont forget. There is a dose thats too much-you feel sleepy. And there is a dose too too much. You feel kind of nice, lots of energy. And once you have a drink you feel alittle sleepy. Same as my ex girl. She was on 50. And she was like methadone gets me high in a way hour after i drink it. As asking other people, consulting with my doctor, with a proper dose you shouldnt sleep more then 8 hours. If you sleep 9-10-11 hours means you can lower without worry about withdrawals. Because by the time you ll feel em, you get used to lower dose. Thats a benefit of been on high dose. Because until you are on 10 mils you can lower without having restless legs at night. just sweating for a bit during the day. And having insomnia at night.which can be easely killed with clonidines or other more modern pills in States(I know Canada is much behind US in terms of pharmasuticals, and technology in general, at least 7 years difference.
They probably upped her dose more than once i dont think they would go from 30mg to 60mg all at once.
The increased dose from 30 to 60 mg. methadone occurred over a week or 1 1/2 weeks. After bringing to their attention, I think they reduced the dose, because the sleep decreased from 22 hours a day to about 14-16 hours a day, and the nodding off right after dosing stopped. I observe that this does, indeed, stop the use of heroin if there is 1/2 a desire to stop. I pray that she does not need to be on this deadly medicine for too long. I guess everyone is different. And meetings are being skipped. I feel there should be more of a program to follow.
My step daughter just had a baby 2 weeks ago and was on 150 mg for her whole pregnancy. Now its lowered to 140 mg but literally all she does is sleep. Falls asleep holding the baby, or doing dishes or what ever she is doing, always falls sleep.
Is there ever an end. I'm struggling with husband at 105mg. Wants to sleep all day. Uses excuse he didn't sleep night before. He does sleep.
Still insists position is so bad. Wants even higher dose. Prior to clinic was abusing opioids. Would take his 2 oxy and 3percosets daily plus more. Script would run out within 10 days. Was spending $1000 or more on street. Was never enough to control his pain. I thought the clinic would keep us from the spending on the street. But he is using it for position control. Has even expressed to me he is considering changing clinics because the would dose more. When awake craving sweets. I'm so lost. Have3 children who used the clinic at multiplie times. Wean and go back to using. I'm so tired of it all. All i do is cry. I need someone to talk to. I'm in therapy and I'm only living with this through it being family. I don't have drug issues. But yet through my children and husband I live with it daily. Please help.
Is she taking methadone for withdrawals from narcotics? Does she have a problem? I am asking because I have been addicted to pain pills for 6 years. I started taking methadone a year or so ago. when I first switched from oxycodone to methadone It was almost to much. I had been so numb for years without realizing it. Everything hit me at once, so taking to much methadone would take some of that away. At the time all I wanted was to get high and taking to much was the only way to achieve that. When I did so I would get very drowsy. I went from taking 70 to 100 mg of methadone s day to 20 mg a day. I feel so much better. I cut back slowly so I felt no withdrawals symptoms.. Good luck
Yes, daughter is taking methadone for herion WD. She started out on Vicodins, then oxycontins, and morphine. When pills were too difficult to get and expensive, a ex-friend of hers got her on daily use of heroin. Pill taking for about 5 years, and heroin use for about 1 year. I think initially, the 30 mg. dose they started her at was not enough. Then, we spoke to the clinic, who upped the dose by 5-10 mg. every few days. I think they increased it too much. At 60 mg., sleeping was excessive, but then, I think there was either some drug and/or alcohol use previous to the 22 hours of sleep per day. Its now been about 3 weeks past this. And the methadone dose was lowered to 55 mg. per day. I believe she wants to get off the dope and methadone now. But, the clinic tells her if she gets off too early, she will relapse. I really believe that its all up the person/addict. 22 years ago, I used, worked a 12 step program on my own due to my own personal decisions, and successfully quit.
I know my clinic was telling me exact thing. They said you have to stay off drugs for 6 month at least, before you can start lowering. Because its like medication, and you dont take it as a drug, couse it doesnt have the same effect. And the longer you stay without friend users etc more chances you wont relapse. Its all bullshit and truth at the same time. Think about it. If you are READY and WaNT to quit. Are you gonna care about all these people who use, dealers etc? NO you will want to get off this crap as soon as possible. And if you want to quit, but sit on methadone because your doctor told you, you have to! Whats gonna happen? while the person is addicted to opiat medication., they will always have temptetions to use drugs. So If your daughter is not ready to quit, Just keep her on a program, dont let her use and drink methadone on the same day, and dont let her raise the dose. Until she is ready But if your daughter is ready!!! I mean realy ready. Excited about quiting, and new life opportunities. Then START NOW. The longer she waits, the less willpower she will have. Because lowering is a progress for our us. Staying on the same dose is degradation!
Everyone is different that's why you see different people on dofferent doses. I'm really tired ALL the time at 50mg just the same as I was at 75mg. Then my husband who is on 110mg dooesnt get tired at all.
Our first few months on methadone we were really tired All the time and slept a lot. My husband got used to it, and I still sleep all day...
I would advise your daughter to stay at 60mg and get off of it as soon as she can... I been on it 3 years now which is nothing compared to some but I am now starting to see there is no end in sight
Can you tell me honestly! Are you using? Because I asked so many people. And it more seems like that low energy usualy happens the next 2-3 days after you used drugs. Honestly I never had low energy, doesnt matter how sick I was. I only had low energy next day after I used, and didnt have any drugs left in the morning. Thats the only time I had that! You probably know-I went throught all symtoms of withdrawals, and I know what I am talking about. The only time I had low energy when I drank those sleeping pills(trazodone-antidepressent in higher doses), and I felt like crap in the morning! HOWEVER There is a difference-having low energy and been sleepy-means that your dose is too high. Because if you are sick, you cant sleep, and you know that! To help from constipation-eat alots of fibers. I Dont wanna teach anyone. I think you know everything better then me. Regarding clonidines, I am not joking, I can still get them for free. So dont loose your chance! Chance for real life :) Ask somebody if you can send this medication from Canada to USA. I am not sure!
Sorry If I upset you. I didnt mean to. I guess everybody is different. But as I asked people they usualy had low energy due to other medications, or drug use. So as me. Thats why I asked you!
Thank you for your comment.I talked to people on it for 10 years. Yuck. Everyone is so different. I am afraid that if the clinic does wean her off too quickly, then the sickness will overcome her. I am thinking 5 mg. every week. What do you think?
If there is no end in sight, does that mean you are not ready to quit using. I've heard from some that after that decision is made (seriously), then you wean off slower sometimes than what the doctor thinks. And, you can face it that there will be some sickness involved. But once, you finally decide that your done with it, and only you can decide that. Then, and only then, can you honestly face what comes with it without relapsing. New place, new people, new things. And for some, a 12 step program is promising.
adnerm, you may be able to lower it by 10% of her total dose once a week. It should be stretched out a bit longer between lowering, but sounds like she's on too much. I'm very happy to hear you will be involved in her care. Don't let the doctors bully you. You know what's best for her. Please keep us posted and my prayers are with you.
chris
You absolutely right. After the person decides to quit. Lowering methadone becomes obvious thing for most people. Because after stopping doing drugs people realize what kind of slaves they have been. And how many years are burned. Unless people are on methadone for too long.They probably didint tell you or your daughter, methadone changes the way your brain functions. The longer you are on it-the harder to get off. Thats why get her involved in quiting, Because it may come to the point that maybe on 10 years she will quit using drugs. But brain is so wired to methadone. That its like your best friend! And again you ARE RIGHT Be sure she is ready to quit. Because quiting and relapsing is way worse then just keeping it going until she is ready. But again you never know. Overdose on dope is VERY common! Or overdose on crap they cut it with! So you know your daughter best, you decide!
Thank you for your resonse. It shines the light on unknowns. My daughter claims she is "only going out for a drink". I reinforced that alcohol is dangerous with methadone, but she seems to think/know better. She did not come home last night, and missed calling me for a ride this morning for her methadone clinic. I'd like to support her, but she is unwilling to accept my support. A guy called here at 4 am this morning looking for her. I am miserable because I guess she is not really ready to stop the madness. I was going to go with her on Tuesday for the methadone doctor appointment. She does not want me to go, but I want to educate myself on her progression. I care about her, but seem unable to click with her. She was offered a job yesterday, but probably won't pursue it. I hurt for her.
Please go to the clinic Tuesday. Regardless of whether or not she wants you to go. She is breaking your heart and you need to get yourself educated about addictions. I know how much you love her, I went through this with my daughter. The only difference was another choice of drug. But the excuses, behaviors, all the same. I took my daughters cell phone, car keys, money, even followed her! She is now a sponsor in N/A and has even been the head speaker at several meetings. There is hope my friend, don't give up. Dig in!
I cannot thank you enough for your responses. I will go with her. I do have faith, but it is so painful to watch. I've had friends go through this when I was much younger. Some of them are now dead, or wish they were due to their addiction. I've taken my daughter's cell 9 months ago. Also took the car then when she had a DUI. Gave the car back when she was offered a job. A few days later, the car demolished. Now she wants the insurance check. But, I can't because I am very responsible. That check has to pay off the car now. She "wants" another car with my help, but I know I have to make her work for it, otherwise, she will never grow into a responsible adult; and, I am on my way to being indebt until I'm 100. I have to be strong and not give in to her long list of "wants".Again, thank you for allowing me to bounce this situation to you. I really feel ... needy dealing with situation.
You are doing the right thing by being strong. Your daughter will thank you one day, I promise. Tell her how much you love her and that it's killing you to have to do the things you are. But it's the only way to save her. You are NOT going to allow her to kill herself under your roof. That is the road she is headed down if she continues to use. You have seen first hand the damages caused by this.
One time, my husband and I were in the car and saw our daughter in another car with a guy we knew sold cocaine. My husband followed them and when they got to the dealers house, my husband went in after them. He took the dealer by the throat and had him up against the wall, threatened to kill him if he ever had any contact with our daughter again. I thought my husband was going to get shot or killed, he didn't care. He dragged our daughter out and we brought her home. She now speaks at N/A meetings and thanks her dad for saving her life. I do NOT recommend doing this.
best wishes,
chris
awsome advice!!!
Interesting enough, dtr. did tell me that appt. is on wednesday, instead of tues. Today is tues., and guess what, we both overslept. She relies on me to wake her up and doesn't realize that I keep going all day and night, and that I need some rest in between. She had a friend over last night, while I was at work, when I came home in the snow, I told her I am taking him home. They were on computer, and talking... It was midnight until they would cooperatae. Then, after that, I was exhausted because I usually go to bed by 10 or 11. So at 1 am, my daughter is begging me for a back rub and wouldn't stop until I did it. So it was 2 am till we both got to bed. I told her we'll probably oversleep tomorrow. And we did. The clinic closes at 9:30 a.m. Woke up at 9:25. So, all hell will break lose when she arises.I feel bad about this, but could not help it. A few days ago, she shoveled snow for me, and...
Related topics
methadone, side effect, dosage
Further information
- Methadone uses and safety info
- Methadone prescribing info & package insert (for Health Professionals)
- Side effects of Methadone (detailed)
Similar questions
Search for questions
Still looking for answers? Try searching for what you seek or ask your own question.