I'm a 66 year old male that has been suffering with diarrhea for 44 years now. All I ever hear from doctors is I have IBS. Every time I get a new doctor they always want to do the whole battery of GI test. I am so over these tests that I won't do another one. The only thing that has ever helped me for short periods of time has been Imodium or Loperamide. The problem is I have had to increase the dosage to 4 Caplets at a time and it has diminishing results as time goes by. I have been talking about Peregoric with my healthcare providers and all they see is DEA agents behind every tree. Help! Where do I find Perigoric and how to take it in terms of dosage? Thank you. From a desperate walking diarrhea bomb!
Is Paregoric still available for purchase? Where do you get it?
Added 22 May 2012:
My original questions that I had when I discovered this website were fairly specific. Is Paregoric still available for purchase? Where do you get it? The knowledge I had when I got here was that Paregoric is available for sale in Brasil and Trinidad. And, that with a proper prescription Canadian pharmacists will mix up a batch from scratch and ship it. I was hoping that there would be at least one person that might have experience with this method of dealing with the symptoms of IBS specifically the diarrhea part. But, to date no one with experience in that area has come through. Maybe over time someone will come forward with information about this specific use of narcotics for relief. My regular healthcare provider at the VA is a nice lady but she doesn't have a clue about how to deal with the symptoms of IBS. So, I see her every 3 to 6 months and she comes up with another suggestion. I did that for a long time with her until I figured out she didn't have a clue about how to deal with my condition. I asked her for a consult to GI doctor. He's what they call a fellow which I think means that he was the top guy in his medical school class which also means he doesn't/didn't have a lot of practical experience but he's real smart. I came up with the same method that my primary healthcare provider had with me which was to throw a lot of s**t on the wall and see what sticks. Unfortunately, none of it stuck other than they took my gall bladder out but it didn't do any good. The point being that every time I turn around each person has a suggestion or has heard about a suggestion that are all mainstream procedures or meds or treatments and they just do not f**k**g work! There are only two outcomes as far as I'm concerned either it's going to require some kind of exotic cure which is ify at beast. The Paregoric solution is the most long standing solution to the problem -- there is cryptic references to meds like it going back to the ancient Egyptians; Napoleon had the problem and used Paregoric like meds, the same ingredients were in his meds; William Wilberforce the British man that effectively ended slavery in England with the help of Prime Minister Penn had severe IBS that was aggravated by all the stress he was under on his quest he was on but he definitely used Paregoric like meds which was probably closer to Laudanum and up till recently, in my lifetime it was used extensively to control diarrhea. Then a certain group in this country, and, you know who you are, made it not just difficult but near impossible to use meds like Paregoric to help people with severe health problems because the devil was in those ingredients. My brother died at 33 years of age of cancer that had excruciating pain that went along with it. Yet, the people that control those pain substances would not allow anything more than a 7 day supply of the pain meds because they were a controlled substance and that group, and, you know who you are, controlled the distribution to the point that we would run out and we couldn't find a drug store to fill the prescription. So, again, I will wait and maybe some with the right experience with Paregoric, Laudanum or whatever will come along and share that information with me. Mike
19 May 2012
I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the medication that you're asking about. However, I've suffered with IBS since my teens ( more years ago than I want to admit!) and I use a medicine called Bentyl, or rather the generic version which is Dicyclomine. It's worked well for me for 20+ years. However, it is a medication that you take every day, not per episode so I'm not sure if that's something you'd be interested in or not. Good luck in your search for relief. As a fellow sufferer I know exactly how miserable IBS can be.
19 May 2012
I take it that you are looking for more than Pepto, right? You are leaning towards medications containing opiates to slow down the spasms like paregoric or codeine. And, you are right about the DEA agents hiding behind the trees. Even the medications containing those ingredients will have temporary, albeit short-lived relief. And, you can't just find it... it will have to be prescribed to you.
Doctors really don't like to be told by the patient what they think they need. It kind of sends up the RED FLAG warning. I take it you have a GI doctor now, why not ask them for something stronger because what you are taking just isn't working! I mean that in a respectful way... really just come out and tell your doctor you need help and immediate relief and to please, please help you get comfortable dealing with this condition.
I am sure you are following a good, bland diet, too, right??? Perhaps adding more starch to your diet would also help. Do you follow the BRAT diet when your symptoms are at their worst??? Do you take any kind of muscle relaxer???
Just some food for thought here and hope it helps you some. Please keep posting so we know how you are doing and whether you have gained any insight, okay?
Blessings to you and you are your own best advocate...
19 May 2012
You used to be able to just go into a pharmacy and get paregoric by signing for it. Those days have been over for some times now. It is still available but you need a prescription. Since it is opium and american doctors see loss of license and jail in their dreams the minute they prescribe it, you could probably get them to pull their teeth out easier. Has anyone tried to figure out why you have the diarrhea for real, not just write it off as ibs? Have you seen a gastrenterologist? You may think I'm nuts but sometimes fiber stops diarrhea because it bulks up the stool.
20 May 2012
Oh darling-I feel for you. My GI system was labeled as seizure prone, and the Air Force put me on seizure medicine. I was diagnosed by the USN for IBS during the Viet Nam War, and diagnosed as having stomach seizures by the USAF during the Gulf War. I take Librax-which is a combination of 2 major depressents-anti-seizure meds that relaxes the muscles.
You say diets- but what are your food triggers? Many of today's stupid gastrointesten--- don't seem to be aware of what they prescribe from life style to meds. Obviously I'm not depressed-new doctors say they'll change meds. I say fine- I'll carry a poop bucket with me and use it in the ER waiting room-and they can clean up after me with a mop. They say-you wouldn't- I say-I did. If your med works fine, but why change something that's working and gamble that I'm going 2 B living in the ER. I am now able to have a cup of warm coffee in the morning-that means so much to me. I spent about 12 years with a bowl of Cream of Wheat-without sugar or milk-for breakfast. I still can't tolerate hot or cold things- no ice-no ice water-and I didn't say -Hot Coffee-
20 May 2012
Hello detroit & welcome to the site. I used to use paragoric on my kids(I'm the same age as you) when they were colicky babies per my doctors adivce. When my second grandchild came along, he was also collicky,& I suggested paragoric. The kids were told that doctors no longer reccomneded it for babies so I dont know if you can buy it OTC or not. Ask your nearest pharmacist. He will know for sure is the best adivce I can give you. It sure did help the colic! Hope this helps...
20 May 2012
Dear Detroit, as far as finding a way for you to get the medication you ask for, I don't have an answer. I work with a girl who has colitis, so we have talked about the treatments her dr has offered to treat that, it is similar to IBS. One option that is being talked about is something called an enema transplant, and I just thought I would mention it. It re populated the colon with beneficial bacteria and it has been touted as to clear up IBS pretty quickly. It is a new treatment for it, you might have to look around to find a dr to do it. She also takes a med called Asachol, which helps with the inflammation. I hope you get some relief soon. If you will do some research, you can find out what an enema transplant is. It sounds pretty gross, but also sounded like it worked well. Tummy troubles are no fun at all. Patti
20 May 2012
Unfortunately, Paragoric is no longer made. The FDA in it's infinite wisdom has taken it off, so that people like you are protected from turning into drug addicts. There is a tincture of opium, but it is hard to find, not covered by insurance,expensive, and tastes like horse dodo... so it has been reported. Perhaps a compounding pharmacy? There is a website called The People's Medicine Community which answers many questions, and offers suggestions. Best of luck to you.
20 May 2012
Hi Detroit! Just curious have they tested you for Crohns? My daughter and i both have it, with similar symptoms. i had surgery, but my daughter who has Crohns and my sister who has IBS and Colitis, are on Remicade treatments, and has helped alot. Just wondering if they ever mentioned Remicade to you?Adeline
23 May 2012
I don't have IBS, but I do know about paregoric. It is simply camphorated opium. You need to find a small pharmacy, not a big chain, explain your situation and ask, pretty please, if they could keep in stock enough paregoric to manage your diarrhea. Some will, a lot will. Those smaller mom and pop pharmacies tend to be more compassionate than the f*****king large ones.
I don't know where you live, but it can be done in Florida in the USA! Hope that helps you out.
Sweet Hippie Chick
26 May 2012
My name is Terri. Laura (the sweetest hippie chickie ever) did give me a call about your predicament. She and some of the others (this is the best site ever) have given you some really good answers. I had my large intestine and a big part of my small intestine removed back in 2000. I had the worse problems with diarrhea and sometimes it would be straight stomach acid (ouch) and burns the skin right off you. Finally, my gastro doctor put me on Deodorized Tincture of Opium. It is basically Paregoric only stronger. This has been a lifesaver for me. I have been on it for over 10 years and have not had to increase the dosage to get relief from what I can only describe as hell on earth. I can tell you my experiences as it has not always been easy to find and is very expensive.
Hope to hear back from you and thank you for the service you've given to our country.
Also a special "thank you" to Laura for the call and the caring that you and so many others show here. I have missed you guys!!
Your friend -Terri-
19 Jun 2012
Hello. I have not signed on for awhile and noticed this question was still out there. I was taking paragoric for many years and then it was no longer available. I have since switched to tincture of opium full time. You can no longer purchse Paragoric since the FDA has put a hold on all of it. You can ask your pharmicist to compound it. If your pharmacy does not have a compounding lab, then they can direct you to one.It is just as effective as the brand name stuff. Your docter will decide the dosage as we are all different.
Your other option is tincture of Opium. If you come up with more ideas please let me know as i am always looking for something better & stronger that works.
I hope this helps you. Hang in there.
11 Aug 2012
As far as I know, Paragoric is no longer available, and if it is, it would certainly only be by Rx. I have had had similar symptoms to IBS as a result of extensive radiation treatment for a stage 4 cancer, that resulted in the need for 4 digestive tract surgeries and lots of pain and agony. For the past 15 years I have taken Cholestyramine Powder to assist with bowel control. It was originally prescribed by my oncologist, and I have taken it 1,2 or even 3 times per day in order to have some control. Cholestyramine is used to reduce cholesterol, so, that has not been a problem for some time, lol. It did help control the diarrhea most of the time. I learned to take my time in the morning, and to take the med early as it would result in one episode within 2--30 min. and then I would be ok till about 4.
In the last year, I have found that I am eating much less, and I often do not eat all day - nothing sounds good so I just do not feel like eating..I eat enough to stay alive, but by eating much less, I have less diarrhea to deal with. The Cholestyramine might be worth a try.
The Doc described it as being a bile salts binder. Aparantly, the bile is released with the ingestion of food and helps the process along-in our case, much too rapidly. With paragoric or any other opiodes, you cause constipation because the sensors of fullness are blocked until the colon can no longer contain the waste and then it explodes and if you are fortunate it explodes as diarrhea rather than a rupture of the colon. So without beating my head against a wall to get opiates, I chose less problematic solutions like the cholestyramine, and eating more often, but less, and keeping track of what foods really do not work - For me, that meant,anything fatty or greasy, most fiberous vegetables (which i used to love), and certain other things like chocolate or whipped cream, cheese, milk.
Good luck with your search and I hope you find something that works...
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