Is fioricet generic westward 787 preferable over watson 3369?
Question posted by Margi2012 on 29 June 2012
Last updated on 24 October 2020
I love the Fioricet by Westward 787, it's the only one that works for my headaches, which are mostly tension ones now instead of full blown migraines. You can't get them anymore because the manufacturer stopped making them. I called and asked why and the customer service person didn't know, said it was a sales & marketing issue. Maybe we should all band together and call the company and tell them WE NEED YOUR FIORICET !!! Watson and Qualitest did nothing. I took both of them for 2-3 years around 2013, hoping they would work. I should have stopped long before that. See my information below.
Now a possible WARNING. When doing some research on the "filler" ingredients, I found out (2) of them were not good, in my opinion. Croscarmellose sodium says "There is a link between this and high blood pressure." Crospovidone says "The long term effects of this in the lung are unknown." Be sure to check out ALL INGREDIENTS in a drug you are thinking of taking.
Am so glad I am not alone on this. I can only take the blue ones. but lately I cant find them anywhere
The blue capsules and tablets by Lannett, do not work for me at all. I was on qualitest, white tabs , which helped tremendously, but are no longer available to the major pharmacies. I am going to try Watson tomorrow. I had brain surgery & my headaches are debilitating.
I just looked this "blue" pill up because I usually get the white ones from CVS, first the caplets which worked fairly well and the round ones which barely work at all. So I am glad to know that these blue ones will be more effective.
But I wanted to let you all know of a weird anomaly that worked extremely well in cutting most of my migraine headaches out by about 98 %. I had been given Verapamil for prophylactic migraine treatment from a headache specialist, which did nothing, but I continued to take it just in case. Then I had a heart issue several years ago and my cholesterol was somewhat high so my cardiologist gave me Lipitor specifically because it has an anti-inflammatory component. And as soon as I mixed the 2 drugs my headaches went away. I mean the next day! Maybe I have 1 or 2 actual migraines in a year now, usually from a food trigger.
But I used to wake up daily with that slightly sick feeling that was what I call a pre-migraine. Anything could turn that into a full-out 12-hour pounding sick headache… chocolate, stress, heat, sun, etc. Since I take those 2 drugs together that pre-migraine stuff has completely gone away. It is completely "off book", not ever clinically tried, not mentioned anywhere. It is completely accidental that it works. And if I stop taking one or the other, that pre-migraine head sick feeling comes back. Ask your doctor. Maybe it will work for you too. Also it is not any statin, just Lipitor and its generic atorvastatin. Crestor and Zocor do not have the same effect nor that anti-inflammatory, at least on me, and I also have a sulfate sensitivity. The reason I take Fioricet at all now is for adjunctive pain relief for something else, not migraine, which is also off the book. But if it works and does no harm, I am happy, and that is my own choice for myself. So the combo is Verapamil and Lipitor. Your doctor can decide what dosage levels or not are right for you.
The inactive ingredients are indeed different between Watson 369 and the old blue Westward 787.
Watson ones have crosprovidon listed first. Magnesium is listed first on West Ward. Check it out. I bet if you increased your magnesium, you would do well!!! Magnesium is so beneficial to the nervous system. I will do that!!!
You would have to check on providone, that is listed too for Watson.
Interesting that the 787 one has Sodium Starch Glycolate in it. Happy Hunting!
Not sure what happened to post.
Prefer 787 over Watson for sure. Walmart has it or did a year ago.
Having complex migraines too often. Got hives from Topamax.
Be careful! Complex migraines mimic stroke like symptoms. They
changed my small vessels in my brain which affect white matter. Keep
eating things that increase blood flow. I don't have high blood pressure or diabetes. But, I do have low blood sugar at times and low blood pressure.
Check on line for keeping veins clear in your brain!
old=Formula C11H16N2O3 787
new= Formula C11H16N2O3 Watson
Maybe the other ingredients are a bit different.
Checking. Tessie 787
I prefer the Westward Blue pills much better.
Are the Westward ones the brand name medication? If so, then that's all that the doctor has to indicate. Can't recall exactly, something like dispense as directed? If I tell my doctor to order Westward pills, they may not be aware of the manufacturer and not do it. I've found the same problem with the pills not working nearly as well. I thought it was just me. THANK YOU to all.
Actually the white fioricet don't work they are BULLSHIT sorry for the language but im so upset because ever since they didn't have the blue at Rite Aid this January I've been in and out the E R like crazy, and they have them nowhere I'm going to call West Ward and complain and get some answers as we all should because we all know that migraines are not to be played with
Yes, in my opinion, it is and here is why. While all generic medications have the exact same active ingredients as their name-branded counterparts, the stabilizers and other inactive ingredients they use can be very different; it is these ingredients that result in a different metabolism of the drug itself. Of course, metabolism also depends on people (i.e. if you have Crohn's disease or other digestive difficulties and are taking a drug that now metabolizes in your gut rather than your kidneys, this will certainly affect the process).
After taking the Westward (blue) generics of Fioricet for many years, I was also switched to the Watson (white) pills. Even doubling the dosage did not compare to the Westwards for me. I've physically gone into my pharmacy to request the Westwards, but was told my doc needed to make the request. If you let your doctor know that the new generic version "does not metabolize the same" as what you've had previously, they will switch. If you have Kaiser, they do honor this request and won't charge more. Good luck!
I used to take the blue westward 787, which seemed to actually do better than the other white one. I'm not sure why but that was what worked for me.
- Fioricet uses and safety info
- Fioricet prescribing info & package insert (for Health Professionals)
- Side effects of Fioricet (detailed)
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