Is there a difference in tramadol marked An627 wh/round and 377 wh/oblong pill I got new ones from?
- 5 Dec 2012 by MrDohBoyBIG
- 15 days ago
- pain, restless legs syndrome, back pain, fibromyalgia, hydrocodone, tramadol, chronic pain
... the pharma this time and want to know if the new ones I got are supposed to be better at all ? 1) Cuz the price difference and 2) I was taken off my hydrocodone after 5 years and put on these and they just don't do anything for me I find it a little ridiculous that I am prescribed 4-6 at a time which is easily over 1000 mg a day when I can take less codone and have better results. Any input would be helpful and if there might be something else I can do for the pain so I'm not eating so many pills I have a rather large tolerance to medications and I am tired of eating pills that don't really work I would rather eat Ibuprofen but I really was not helping my liver with the amt of those I had to take
thank you ,
The max dose of tramadol is 400 mg a day. If I'm reading you correctly you are on way too much. What you have now is correct. I didn't find the round pill on the identifier. The big draw is that tramadol isn't classed as a controlled medication. It is however addicting if you're taking more then you should. Talk to your doctor maybe he'll change you to what works.
The AN 627 pills are tramadol 50mg made by Amneal Pharmaceuticals, and the oblong 377 are tramadol 50mg made by Caraco Pharmaceutical Labs. They are both essentially the same drug but made by different manufacturers. The most you should be taking is two tabs 4 times a day-this is the MAX dose of 400mg in a 24 hour period. Taking any more than that puts you at risk for seizures. Tramadol, especially in high doses, can lower the seizure threshold. Just because it is not considered a controlled substance doesnt mean it is safer than opioids like hydrocodone. Tramadol isnt an opioid. It is considered "opioid like". It is not made from any poppy alkaloids, natural or synthetic, but it DOES act on the opioid receptors, therefore, really carries all the dangers that opioids do. It is also unique in that it has antidepressant properties. For some people it can be every bit as hard to come off of as a true opioid.
You get not only opioid type withdrawals, you get antidepressant type withdrawals as well. If I were in your shoes, I would let my Dr know that the medication is not working and see what your other options are. Do NOT take more than 400mg in a 24 hour period because you can have seizure activity-very dangerous. This can also lead to abuse and withdrawals so be very careful and respect this drug! This is probably just not the right drug for you. It does take time and patience to find the right drug or combination of drugs to treat your pain. If you are not seeing a pain management Dr, I would recommend that you ask your PCP to refer you to one. PM docs have a greater arsenal than PCP's do.
There is no real difference in the quality or effect of the pills. I have personally used them both. They both work the same, one is not "better" than the other. I am usually prescribed the An627's but, sometimes get the 377's. Depends what the pharmacy has in stock.
Personally I do notice a difference between the 2 types of tramadol. The AN 627 round pills don't seem to help with my pain very much. The 377 oblong pills don't take the pain completely away but they at least help make it bearable. I truly believe it has to do with the non active ingredients. Many pharmacists say that there isn't any difference because the active ingredients are the same. I beg to differ. That's like saying that all sandwich cheese tastes the same or that Oscar Meyer & Eckrich lunchmeats taste the same. No it does not. Although they all have the same base ingredients each manufacturer puts different additives or non active ingredients in their product to make it their own. As of 2014 Tramadol is now considered a narcotic pain medication. I wish you luck in finding at least bearable or low pain days if 'no pain days' aren't an option.
I want to clarify a few things,people are commenting here,with all Respect to the readers,I have been taking tramadol,since being in a car accident in 2008,and never wanted to be prescribed Percocet or anything stronger.I settled on tramadol.many people say that that all tramadol work the same,and that's totally false,because of the different manufacturing of the tramadol,the oval shape ouyi 101 and the oblong shape 377 gave me a sluggish feeling.On the other hand the round 627/319 are the best,NOT because of strength but because is more smooth to your system and works with the pain.that ouyi 101 is horrible and the oblong 377 is in between,THE ROUND 627 AND 319 TRAMADOL ARE UNDOUBTEDLY THE BEST"!
It's my fist time using the 377 I've always be given the round pill for the last 4yrs. So I will update.
Hi Big. I too used to take hydrocodone for a number of years. After awhile they didn't work anymore. So my Dr prescribed me Tramadols 50mg take up to 5 a day. Well that didn't work either. So now I'm on this new medication called Nyucenta 50mg. So far so good. So lok it up and ask your Dr about it. It works for me. I have chronic back pain and bursitis in both hips. I hope this helps...
There is no difference, there both 50mg.
Some say the AN 627 are better than the 377
The best ones say tramadol on the pill or ultram.
And 6 pills are 300mg not 1000mg.
I have been taking tramadol for seven or eight years and find that it works better than other opiods for back pain from a badly ruptured disc and subsequent surgery. I have tried Norco 10/325, MS contin 60 mg, Percocet, Vicodin etc. Tramadol seems to work well for me. I find the round tabs work better for me. The oblong ones seem to give me crappy headaches. I ask the pharmacist specifically for the ones I want. They will fill the Rx with whatever's cheaper for them or what they have on hand at the time. However, everyone is different with respect to how their body reacts to medication. Find what works best for you and stick with it. BTW, if your taking the max or near that (6-8 a day), coming off them is Horrible. Try to take the minimum effective dose, and don't wait until you're in pain, take as prescribed, every 4-6 hrs.
A sincere, most experienced filled response... PLEASE TAKE THE TRAMODOL! This is my 3rd Vicoden (Lortab) detox and using Tramadol, this is the LEAST painful, least disruptive to my career and family continuance. I cannot stress the word LEAST!!! They work Sir!!! I was totally off Hydrocodone in one week. Had I known the effects of Tramadol on my first two detox, I would not have lost my Professional career, house, moral and etc.
The best, generic tramadol I've found are the TV 58's by Teva Pharmaceuticals. It's 'football' shaped (elliptical)
There are 3 'football' shaped ones that I know of:
The 377's which are by Sun Pharmaceutical Industries Inc, (these are the weakest or less effective of all);
the TV 58's: the best generic tram out there. Very consistent concentration per pill and good tramadol all around;
the OUYI 101's by Virtus Pharmaceuticals. (getting ready to try these next month, but
they have good reviews.
2 round ones: the 319's by Zydus Pharmaceuticals and the AN(adol) 627's by Amneal Pharmaceuticals.
Both the round ones are not as effective as the TV 58's, but they work once you figure out how weak or
strong your current batch is.
I've been on tramadol since 2008. I take is for treatment resistant, clinical depression for which I'm on permanent disability after 7 electro-shock-therapy (ECT: ElectroConvulsiveTherapy) which worked for only
3 months. I take it in conjuction with Cymbalta and Remeron and it alleviates my depression to the point where I'm functional.
I was taking up to 3600mg a day until I discovered that it potentiates the other anti-depressants which stopped working many years ago. Now I only take 300mg per day.
Anyway, good luck.
Yes Yes & Yes.The TRAMADOL(An627 wh/round are the best; Hands down. The others like 377wh/oblong pills are a striaght up joke. Been taking TRAMADOL for a few years now and from that first time to the present that I took the An627 no other Pills can touch it for Back,Nerve or any other Pain period. Word to the Wise! Do not mess with Oval (footballshape)TRAMADOL pills either. Simply No good.I work 8-12hour shifts on my job everyday Depending on what I'm doing that day I don't have to take no more than 2-3 within the 12 hours. Some days nothing at all. So play party. Hope this info has helped you some. Peace..
First of all, Tramadol is a drug that works for some & does nothing for others. I have been taking Tramadol for around 10 yrs for Fibromyalgia. It works ok for me. Before that i was on very heavy duty opioids for 12 yrs. I weaned myself off of them using the tramadol. I CAN tell the difference between manufacturers. Amneal does NOT work as well. Mine are made by Teva. This one works the best for me although none of them make me 100% pain free I am functionable. I take up to 5 50mg tabs a day. I usually take 2 in the morn & 2 at night but on a bad day ill slip another one in there sometime in the middle of the day. The key is to NOT let them wear off. Dont wait till youre in pain to take them. The one thing i don't like about Tramadol is that it takes an hr to kick in. Not one min less. If you let it totally wear off it can take 15 min longer.
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