I just wanted to let everyone know how touched I am and what it has meant to have so much support and love from all of you. I didn't know what to do or where to turn and as usual found everything I needed here. The advice that y'all have given me on how to deal with this devastating situation with my brother has helped not only me but my whole family. I couldn't have done this without all of you.
We did get my brother in a facility and were hoping that he could stay there for the 90 day commitment. Unfortunately, this facility is an acute care facility so their job is to just get the patient stablized. We are working frantically to try and find a place for him to go when released from there. We have an appt to talk with his case worker on Monday so maybe she will have some ideas. His MHMR case worker has said that she will help also.
I have to believe that God is hearing all our prayers and will work it out. I saw my brother today and he still thinks that demons are trying to sacrifice him. In fact, he thinks the doctors are demons and that all the staff are in on it. He believes they are fattening him up and that he only has a few days left. I have never dealt with anything like this and it is heartbreaking to watch someone you love go through this.
Mostly I want you all to know that I feel so blessed to have found such wonderful caring (not to mention knowledgable) friends. Thanks each and every one of you that took time out of your busy lives to help me through this. I know we have a long road ahead but at least we have started the journey. From the bottom of my heart, I want you to know how much I am blessed by you all.
All my love and appreciation -Terri-
Update and special thanks to all my wonderful friends. What would I do without you?
Question posted by tlcandmore on 25 March 2012
Last updated on 29 March 2012
19 Answers
One more really important thing... make sure that wherever you find a place for him, get your name on his HIPPA sheet!! You want to keep up with his progress to make sure that they are treating him correctly, AND, you want to be able to talk to his doctors and counselors to make sure that they know how he can be manipulative! Lie to him if you have to do that, that you have to be on his HIPPA sheet to help pay the bills and get an itemization, or think of some excuse.
Ellen,
I sent you a long response to your pq. Just wanted to say again how much your support and concern have meant. Thanks for caring sweetie.
Big hugs -Terri-
Dearest Terri,
I know how worried you are since your brother's release. Your parents are your main concern, and I hope your brother doesn't do anything crazy. There has to be something you can do. Call an attorney who offers a free initial consultation. They are bound to be able to help you figure out a way to get him committed. There has to be some way you, as his sister, can do this. They can at least point you in the right direction. I know you're scared and worried. I definitely understand why, hon. Just know I'm right beside you. I'll be your port in the storm and all you have to do is call. I'm here for you as we've connected as good friends, and I want to do whatever I can to help. Even if it's just to listen when you need a shoulder. Remember the song by James Taylor:
Winter, Spring, Summer, or Fall,
All you gotta do is call,
You gotta friend, oh yea baby
You've got a friend.
Love n hugs, babe,
Teresa
Teresa,
I hope you are getting some much needed sleep right now... you better be!! Like I said don't make me come there and kick you in the butt. *smile*
Talk to you tomorrow.
Love ya Sweet Tee. -Terri-
Hi sweetie - think I have my email settings messed up. Was just checking on u & noticed that ur brother was actually realesed at 5:30 today. What the??? I noticed how many people were commenting on his ability 2 fool Dr's. Shame on those Dr's. My hubby's uncle in Alabama is chronically mentally ill - he's been schizophrenic 4 over 20 yrs & as far a Dr's, we just start 2 work with one Dr, get his meds right, etc. When they assign him a new resident who's been practicing about 5 minutes who changes all his meds & basically screws everything up. For the last ten yrs, he's been a human esperiment 4 every drug someone wants 2 see in action. Btw, major shout out 2 all who made great comments on deinstitutionalzation, lack of psych/social services funding & resources, & voting Obama. We're like the redheaded stepchild of medical services! This has really gotten 2 me.
It's affecting you, ur parents, family & brother, creating needless pain, suffering, & frustration 4 all of u. Yes, all these things are part of life, it's the needless part that both gets my blood boiling & breaks my heart 4 you & yours. I'm in awe of ur strenght, determination, & grace. All my love & light, Echo. "Love all, trust a few, do harm to none" - Shakespear (sp? - little tired!)
Echo, I hear you too!! That's the problem with university hospitals, (and I assume your hubby's uncle is in a university hospital?? If not the the system really s@cks, and big time. Changing his meds every time he gets a new resident! There ought to be a law! that's why I told Tic that someone else has to be on the HPPA sheet, so they can't do anything without someone else watching over!!
Btw, just a 'fun' statistic... 90% of homeless people are either mentally ill OR developmentally disabled. Mostly mentally ill. They can't hold jobs, and they don't qualify for services anymore, so they are on the streets and self-medicating. It makes me so angry when people criticize the homeless, calling them drug addicts and alcoholics, and if they would just get a job...
They are SELF-MEDICATING themselves to survive the demons they face in their heads!! Just a comment about society, but if just ONE of those critics, and I mean the politicians especially would support just ONE homeless person, and get their meds that they don't qualify for instead of drug testing them to see if they are "good enough" to receive services... well you understand where I am going. I'm so frustrated for Tic.
Amen sister! I spent 3 yrs working w/ the chronically mentally ill (they only ask 4 a 1 yr commitment cause of the burnout rate - the system's a mess & most therapists don't want 2 work w/ people who will never get "well" but they *can* be higher functioning, lead fulfilling life's & oh yeah, they're HUMAN BEINGS. Sorry, so not shouting at you). Teens & kids r my speciality but I'm *so* glad I took that job & I loved my clients. Even the one who was very worried about me cause he was convinced I was a "working girl" at night :) And yes, I've tracked clients down under bridges, in tent cities, & most ironically *right next 2 one of our biggest mental health facilities*!!! Bringing their meds 2 them & praying they can remember how 2 take them properly, bringing food, cigs, chess (strangely popular w/ schizophrenics).
And for 20 yrs I thank G-d that my husband not only doesn't care but is proud of the fact that I spend most of my pitiful salary on my clients. I'd go u one further - I want all the politicians who seem 2 believe in some twisted form of Social Darwinism 2 live 1 month on $40 trying 2 figure out where 2 sleep 4 the night, & make the voices & delusions stop. I give them 1 wk max before they're looking 4 a bottle of Ripple, Robotussin, Listerine... anything 2 just make it bearable. And a 5:30 release on a patient?? That's (fill in the blank w/ ur words of choice). You don't do that. You stay as late as it takes 2 make sure TLC, who's done everything right, is not being sent home w/ a still unstable brother, no treatment plan, no placement in an appropriate facility... in other words, w/ nothing but a temporary fix of a shot of Haldol like ur taking out the garbage. Who's the "crazy" person in this nightmare situation? Her brother or the state & its employees? End of rant.
TLC, I'm so sorry this is happening 2 u & so proud of your bravery in posting this. It's no consulation 4 u, but u obviously brought up a topic that many of us have either personal experience w/ or have a concience & care about. That took guts since there's still such a stigma about mental illness that leaves families reluctant & embaressed 2 even talk about it. Before we found him proper placement, my husbands uncle had been living w/ his mother 4 over 20 yrs. During psychotic breaks, he's verbally abused her, broken lamps, TV's, radios, etc., pushed her down & finally tried 2 hit her. My father-in-law thankfully was there & took the punches that broke his nose & blackened his eye. My father-in-law was 70 & hubby's grandmother 88 at the time. It was only then that she agreed 2 outside placement. It wasn't the uncle's fault- another med change that made him think they were evil people from Dr. Who. I know that you're taking the heat & maybe ur parents feel a responsibility 2 care 4 their son, but that could be them. I'm pretty teary now thinking of you & what ur going through as well as ur parents & brothers so I'm finally shutting up. No more novella posts:) Both my husband & I are keeping u in our thoughts & r here if you need anything at all
Amen sister! I spent 3 yrs working w/ the chronically mentally ill (they only ask 4 a 1 yr commitment cause of the burnout rate - the system's a mess & most therapists don't want 2 work w/ people who will never get "well" but they *can* be higher functioning, lead fulfilling life's & oh yeah, they're HUMAN BEINGS. Sorry, so not shouting at you). Teens & kids r my speciality but I'm *so* glad I took that job & I loved my clients. Even the one who was very worried about me cause he was convinced I was a "working girl" at night :) And yes, I've tracked clients down under bridges, in tent cities, & most ironically *right next 2 one of our biggest mental health facilities*!!! Bringing their meds 2 them & praying they can remember how 2 take them properly, bringing food, cigs, chess (strangely popular w/ schizophrenics).
And for 20 yrs I thank G-d that my husband not only doesn't care but is proud of the fact that I spend most of my pitiful salary on my clients. I'd go u one further - I want all the politicians who seem 2 believe in some twisted form of Social Darwinism 2 live 1 month on $40 trying 2 figure out where 2 sleep 4 the night, & make the voices & delusions stop. I give them 1 wk max before they're looking 4 a bottle of Ripple, Robotussin, Listerine... anything 2 just make it bearable. And a 5:30 release on a patient?? That's (fill in the blank w/ ur words of choice). You don't do that. You stay as late as it takes 2 make sure TLC, who's done everything right, is not being sent home w/ a still unstable brother, no treatment plan, no placement in an appropriate facility... in other words, w/ nothing but a temporary fix of a shot of Haldol like ur taking out the garbage. Who's the "crazy" person in this nightmare situation? Her brother or the state & its employees? End of rant.
TLC, I'm so sorry this is happening 2 u & so proud of your bravery in posting this. It's no consulation 4 u, but u obviously brought up a topic that many of us have either personal experience w/ or have a concience & care about. That took guts since there's still such a stigma about mental illness that leaves families reluctant & embaressed 2 even talk about it. Before we found him proper placement, my husbands uncle had been living w/ his mother 4 over 20 yrs. During psychotic breaks, he's verbally abused her, broken lamps, TV's, radios, etc., pushed her down & finally tried 2 hit her. My father-in-law thankfully was there & took the punches that broke his nose & blackened his eye. My father-in-law was 70 & hubby's grandmother 88 at the time. It was only then that she agreed 2 outside placement. It wasn't the uncle's fault- another med change that made him think they were evil people from Dr. Who. I know that you're taking the heat & maybe ur parents feel a responsibility 2 care 4 their son, but that could be them. I'm pretty teary now thinking of you & what ur going through as well as ur parents & brothers so I'm finally shutting up. No more novella posts:) Both my husband & I are keeping u in our thoughts & r here if you need anything at all
Echo,
I can't tell you how much it means to know that someone understands and feels compassion and outrage on my behalf. That facility most def dropped the ball or more likely just didn't give a sh!t. Today I was able to find several places that would take him even without insurance. Why couldn't that facility do that!!! He is very good at convincing people of whatever he wants but they are supposed to be professionals and know how to recognize this. He convinced them that it was a 'drug induced' episode. That much is true but he's a drug addict so it will happen again without proper treatment. He has also persuaded my parents (one more time) that he will be okay and do the right thing. This has been going on for almost a year now. He hasn't been able to stay away from the drugs for more than a few weeks at a time.
So, the only thing I can do now is prepare for when it happens again and watch him like a hawk. At least now, thanks to all the support and info I will be better equipped next time. I understand where my parents are coming from. It is truly heartbreaking watching him go through this. As with your hubbys uncle they have had my bro on pretty much every med out there. They sent him home with rx's for Lithium and Thorazine. I think because they are inexpensive.
I know that you are going through a really bad situation with your mom right now and I'm going to tell you like you told me - take care of yourself too!! Thanks again for taking the time to help me in my time of need when you have so much going on in your life. I know that like me you are putting your medical needs on the back burner. Like you said we've both got a long road ahead so let's support and encourage each other. I will keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers. You are a blessing.
Much love and big hugs -Terri-
Oh sweetie, this would b so much easier if I hadn't just read ur comment & didn't honestly care about u! But I do & ur so worth it. Thorazine & Lithium actually aren't a bad combo, but Lithium levels have 2 b closely monitored w/ blood work. So it sounds like they think the psychotic break was drug induced or is that what ur brother thinks? I know I promised 2 shut up but I was waiting 2 see which way that went, so one last thing (famous last words, right?). If ur as old as me, do u remember Syd Barrett, the original lead singer 4 Pink Floyd who was diagnosed schizophrenic & spent the rest of his life in obscurity? The problem there was no one could tell if all the acid he took made him schizophrenic or if he was before the drugs. Chicken & egg thing. Pls be careful w/ that. The truth is when there's co-morbid psych (2 seperate diagnosis) *especially* when one is an addiction diagnosis, there's no real way 2 tell which came first.
The drugs that are most closely linked 2 causing what meets all the criteria 4 schizophrenia are hallucinigens (acid, pcp,etc), ecstasy, & meth. So it's possible that even if he never did any drugs again, the damage could already be done. Or it could be the other way around - the mental illness (I don't know what diagnosis he was given) has been there for some time & the drug use was self-medicating. I'm praying that he at least got a Dr u can ask these questions to & that he has the guts 2 say "I don't know" if s/he doesn't know & if they say they do know, they can give u adequate reasons for their diagnosis. If he's got a placement now & they can insure that the only drugs he takes r what they administer & he starts 2 improve, IMHO, that points 2 a mental illness that no one may ever know the cause of. But properly managed, he really can live a decent life. S (hubby's uncle) has long periods where he's high functioning, reasonably lucid, & cool 2 be around. Pls remember that all of this is just my opinion, although I got our staff psychiatrist 2 reluctantly explain some it & reluctently give his opinion.
You've been so strong & learned & accomplished so much. And yes, I'm really feeling my own bodies problem's today so it'll be great 2 have a pacing partner!
Big hugs back 2 ya - Echo
Hey sweetie - I am *so* sorry I haven't checked in w/ u sooner. Been dealing w/ my mom's cancer which ended up being worse than anyone thought but that's no excuse considering all of us r dealing w/ juggling a bunch & yet so many were there 4 me. I have been following what's going on as much as possible & trying 2 figure out TX law which is, as ur unfortunately figuring out, a beurocrtic nightmare. Weird confluence - my husband's uncle is schizophrenic & in Alabama & going through a crisis so I've been being a polite b*tch 2 his Dr's - if u want, I'd b glad 2 vent some of my frustration out TX way :) I can't really do that, but I'm finding that cracking the whip 2 help hubby's uncle & fam is very theraputic 4 me right now! All of us in mental health/social svcs have seen our budgets slashed yearly & should be used 2 figuring out how 2 still get things done w/ a fraction of the resources we need.
That's why it ticks me off so much that u & ur fam, hubby & his fam, & clients I see who could have had much more help & support either have never really had any help or help was a day late & a dollar short. Sounds like you've already had 2 deal w/ the ones that frustrate me the most - they're either just putting in there 8 hrs and/or passing u around cause it's they just want it 2 b someone else's problem. I apologize 4 that. I'm hoping that someone has talked W/ u about psych Assisted Living Facilities (ALF's), supervised apartments, & even nursing homes that accept a certain percentage of psych patients ( I did check & ur state has all of those). All of the things ur brother believes, i.e. demons, conspiricies of people out 2 harm him, etc. are fairly common delusions. Do u know if he's also hallucinating? I'm curious about what meds he's on if u feel comfortable telling me. You might b able 2 use that 2 force his caseworker, Dr, etc. 2 actually do something that helps both him & ur fam. Also, of the different facilities he could go next, most will help file an SSI application & get the ball rolling, although that should b something his caseworker has already started. Unlike SSDI, SSI almost exclusively goes 2 people w/ serious mental illnesses & is a fixed amount 4 all recipients. Fair warning - whatever type of facility he's placed in, they'll keep it all 4 expences, room & board, staff care, etc. which will only leave him OSS (that's like a fixed allowance that's only between $40-60/mo).
On a personal note, I just realized that I threw a bunch of cold-sounding info at u. Sometimes it's hard 4 me 2 seperate what I do from who I am. So that was the what I fear comes off as the cold sounding part of me hoping that something I throw out there might help. From the just me part, I'm sending you all the empathy, love & light I have 4 the painfully difficult situation ur in that you're handling w/ such grace & strength & my concern that u also take care of yourself. I'm just starting 2 understand why so many great people here told me that in my how do I take care of me & someone else question. I'm just starting to feel the physical toll taking care of my mom is having on me. I realized today that as frantic as things are now, it's just the beginning - this is a marathon, not a sprint. Maybe we can help pace each other?!
With love - Echo
Hey Echo Sweetie,
Don't you dare apologize about not getting back to me sooner with all that you have going on. I SO appreciate everything that you are doing. I am very sorry about your mom and that her condition is worse than expected. I know how hard that is. We just went through that with my mama-in-law last year. My heart goes out to you and your family.
Today was probably the most frustrating day that we've faced so far. We couldn't get anyone from the facility to return our multiple calls. His case worker told us yesterday that they WOULD not release him without talking to us and having a plan in place. Since we didn't get a call back today we just figured they decided to keep him an additional day. They didn't. We got a call from him at 5:30 saying he had been discharged. Of course this was after anyone we needed to speak to was gone for the day. Rather than leave him on the street my dad went and picked him up.
So he is back here and still in really bad shape. He said he tried to commit suicide while in the facility and that they restrained him and pumped him full of Haldol. I don't understand how they could release him with this and all the additional info that we had provided. Yes he has been hallucinating. Talking to people that weren't there and even trying to hit these non-existent people with a baseball bat.
His MHMR case worker has helped him to apply for SSI. We are hoping he will be approved. She also said that she could change his status?? I don't really know what that means. So we are back to square one. I am going to start making calls again tomorrow. It's just so frustrating and you are right that it is taking a toll on me mentally as well as physically.
I like your idea of us helping each other pace ourselves because we each have a long road ahead. I'm going to try and get some rest. Tomorrow will be another long day. I have some more to tell you when I answer your pq. I will do that tomorrow. Take care of yourself sweetie.
With love and appreciation -Terri-
I sent you a response but they are holding it for pending approval probably since there were links on it. It has a lot of good resources for you so I hope the site admin will allow it. If not I'll try to send it privately somehow! Dzoo
Dzoo - Thanks sweetie. I need all the help I can get. We have spent all day talking to everyone possible trying to keep them from releasing him while still so obviously needing treatment. We haven't had much luck. His case worker said that since he has no benefits (meaning insurance or money) that there is no place to send him for the 90 day commitment. Like I told Lara, I find this extremely hard to believe. Surely there must be some kind of state funding for situations such as this.
I will be able to talk to his case worker again in the morning but unless we figure something out they are going to release him tomorrow??? When we told them we didn't feel safe with him coming back here they said they would just have to release him to a shelter. Is this really all that can be done for our mentally ill unless we can pay for it? I am so stressed and my poor parents look like they have aged 10 yrs in the last month.
They are in their mid 70's and too old to have to deal with this. Anyway, I didn't mean to ramble on like that. I have never been in a situation like this and have no experience with mental illness. I sent you a pq in case your msg does not come through. I appreciate info on any resources that you know of. Thanks so much. You all have been so much help.
With love and appreciation *Terri*
Talc, the hardest part of keeping someone with an illness like your brother stable and "in his right mind" is a regimented control if his meds. There are meds that can be taken once a month in in a shot form by doctor. Its the easiest way for all involved to keep him from going off... needing to take meds daily is a. Real complicated issue for all involved in his care. Best wishes to you and yours
Thanks Shamanette,
I had no idea that his meds could be given once a month. You are right he will not take his meds unless he has no other choice. I will be talking to his doctor in the morning and will ask about this. Again, thanks so much for the info and well wishes. I am in over my head with this one and have no experience with a situation like this. Take care.
Your friend -Terri-
Hi Terri,
I don't have anything to add, except that I am in your corner, and will always be here if you need anything.
I'm also very happy that he is in the right place for now. I am praying the doc's keep him there until he is better and can function in some fashion of normalcy, however long it takes. His life must be unpleasant to say the least if he thinks demons are out to get him. I can't imagine living like that.
I hope he finds his way back to sanity and a full life.
Love,
Lara
Hey Sweetie Lemon Lara Pie,
You have been in my corner since day one. You were the first to friend me and make me feel part of the DC family. You mean the world to me.
Unfortunately, unless we can come up with something else fast the are going to release him tomorrow. The facility he is in is an Acute Care Facility and they just get them stablized and release them. They said since he has no benefits that there is nothing available to him. He is very good at convincing people that he is okay. This is certainly NOT the case. We will get a chance to talk to his case worker again in the morning prior to his release. I will try again to make them understand that he needs further treatment. Will keep you informed.
Love ya sweetie *Terri*
Terri, I am so sorry that he is being released so soon. I just don't understand how docs can release someone like that. But as you have said, he can 'fake it' and tell medical personnel what they want to hear.
Is there any way for you to talk to his doc's and explain? Or is he out already?
Love,
Lara
Yes Lara they let him out today after not returning our calls all day. They released him about 5:30 after everyone we needed to talk to had left for the day. I couldn't believe it!! I'm not giving up though. All of you have been so supportive and given me resources I didn't know about. I can't tell you how much it means. I am so blessed to have found you guys.
Love ya bunches -Terri-
TERRI, how is he behaving since the doc's or powers that be let him out?
Is he any better, or worse because your family sent him to be evaluated?
Love,
Lara
Lara,
He's just as happy as can be. He has convinced my parents (once again) that he is okay. They want to believe it so bad and I understand that. You can believe that I will be watching him like a hawk. Thanks to all the good advice and support I've gotten here I now know what to do. I am so blessed to have found you guys and I am humbled by the outpouring of love and concern.
Love ya sweetie -Terri-
Am writing in order to relay a message of support toward someone in distress because of a mental health issue encountered by a sibling. My advice has got to be taken by way of as you might say "with a grain of salt". Not having been affected personally in this regard the term you used: "demonic presence" seems both foreign & stirring. Perhaps as the plea from someone ardent on creating incident of self-importance where before lacking attention from others. By and large threats cannot be ignored and perceptions as distorted as the man in question is experiencing lead one to the conclusion that clinical restraint for an undetermined length of time at first will benefit everyone involved.
In regards to protection from these previously mentioned "creatures" bent on doing harm the best defense has always been a good offense putting this incident in terms of the battle for brother's sanity. Knowing that his place in the family you share with him remains a secure one of unconditional love is the only secure footing on which relationships stand firm through times of trouble.
As far as approaching him from any stand concentrating belief systems only reinforces the fear. After all isn't a demon the resulting influence of distortion in reality? In the real world of facts unless someone is able to perform a miracle for your brother to witness and believe from the center of his being such as the power of magic amulets around his neck or burning candles surrounding him in the shape of a pentagram.
Giving thanks to the neighbor who voted-up. Pleasure that an open mind.
Hi I - I'm sorry I didn't see your response when you first posted. Somehow it ended up at the top and I was just automatically scrolling down to the bottom for new answers. Thanks so much for tthe support. I am also giving you a thumbs up. Take care.
Your friend -Terri-
It's so nice of you to take the time and say so.
Am not sorry that the time has passed devoting myself.
The subject intrigues me honestly and am looking forwards
to relating again what has been my misfortune to learn mostly the hard way.
Your kindness's will take you far.
Terri, I'm so glad that your brother is in a place right now, but you are correct, and you have a very stressful uphill battle. They will keep him until he doesn't think they are "demons" anymore, because then he won't be a harm to himself at that time. You have to get him to comply with the doctors and willingly sign him into a long term care. I so feel for you. You must be under so much stress. Please know that you are in my thoughts, and if you need to email, call, pq, please do. Ellen
Hi Ellen,
I got your pq and responded back. Thanks so much for all your support. We have been working all day trying to get him transferred to a 90 day facility. They are telling us that since he has no benefits (or money) that there is no place for him to go. I find this hard to believe. They are releasing him tomorrow??? We are still trying to find something but are not getting much help from anyone. I will keep you informed. This has me so stressed. Thanks again.
*Hugs* Terri
UGH!! Terri, I'm so sorry!! Try calling United Way, and see what they have to say. This is so ridiculous. Ever since the 'deinstitutionalizing' of mentally ill patients, there have been very few places for them to go when they need help. Forgive me for getting political, but if Obamacare goes through, you wouldn't have to worry about the benefits. Good luck finding a place!! I'm really keeping you in my thoughts!
Add me to that list too Ter. I would try the United Way like Ellen says. It sure can't hurt, & she is right about the institutions. When I was a kid all staates had mental instatutions & now they are all gone & the poor people that need help & need to be there are some of the homeless people living on the streets. What a shame. shame on America for letting this happen. I hope eveyone who votes this Fall remembers Terri brother with no place to go... Mary
Thanks Ellen and Mary,
I so totally agree about care for the mentally ill. Having never dealt with this I had no idea the sad shape of things. They did release him today with no where to go. My dad (against my advice) went and picked him up since it was after 5 and he and my mom didn't know what else to do. He is still in really bad shape. We will start again tomorrow trying to find a place for him. I've gotten some resources to look into from all my wonderful friends here. I'm am overwhelmed with the support everyone has given me. It means so much especially at a time like this.
Love ya both -Terri-
We love you too Ter, & good luck finding a place. Let us know how things are progressing & my thoughts & prayers are with you , girl... Mar
Don't be too upset with your parents. remember, they are older, and he is their baby too. They are hurting for him. Just keep on trying, and see what you can find. Also, I wouldn't hesitate to look outside your area, and even in another state. You have to find something that is helpful, and there just might be a placement outside your area. Good luck honey, I am constantly keeping you and your brother in my thoughts, Just try and make your parents understand that he CANNOT go out, and don't leave him with transportation. That is the best that you can do at this time.
Hey, baby girl, hope things are going OK today for you. One more thing, and you already know this, try your best to make someone understand how bad off your brother really is. Because, you know how convincing he can be. Do your best to make those people understand that he will lie to get what he wants. I mean absolutely NO offence to you, I'm just very concerned about all y'alls safety. I hope everything goes your way, cause that's the best way... you're in my prayers, much love, Anna
Thanks Sweetie Pie,
Boy you hit the nail on the head about him being able to convince everyone that he is alright. We are going to talk to his doctor and his case worker tomorrow and I will do everything in my power to make them understand how serious this is. My parents (bless their hearts) still don't think this is as serious as it absolutely is. I appreciate your words of wisdom. It helps me to know that I am making the right decision no matter how hard it is. Our safety has to come first. I have a 15 yr old daughter that has seen all this happening and I know it scares her too. Thanks again for the prayers. I can't tell you how much all the outpouring of love and support means.
Much love -Terri-
Terri, please see my post on your last question. Continue to keep us updated and if you need extra help, someone to talk to or even someone to pray with please PQ me and I will give you my number. Again you and your family remain in my prayers! Lisa Z.
Terri, please see my post on your last question. Continue to keep us updated and if you need extra help, someone to talk to or even someone to pray with please PQ me and I will give you my number. Again you and your family remain in my prayers! Lisa Z.
Lisa - I got your post on my last question and sent you a reply. Your assessment is right on. Please read my response. I am also sending you a pq. Talk to you soon. Thanks again for everything.
Much love -Terri-
Hi Terri,
Glad to hear he is in a facililty. Hopefully they don't release him early before he can get real help. My nephew was seeing things too and was admited to a facility but within a week he was out because he told them he had support at home and the hospital release him. Make sure you do not have support for him at home even if you are there for him. Because if they think someone is there to watch him to not take his or anothers life they will release him. Good luck and take care, will say a prayer for you both. By the way my nephew still has problems that he will not deal with and is staying with his parents. He is in his 30s, on disibility and getting nowhere. It's been at least 2 years now. His parents are beside themselves.
Hey Smiley girl,
It sounds like much of the same situation with my brother as with your nephew. One thing I have made sure of is that they know that my parents CANNOT handle him. It's funny that you said that about the disability. My parents have been thinking if they could get him on disability that would solve many of his problems. I know it will take much more than that to get him where he needs to be. I don't know which is more heartbreaking. Watching what he is going through or what it's doing to my mom and dad. Thanks for the support and prayers. Both are much appreciated.
Hugs -Terri-
Hello Terri. Very much appreciated the update. I do believe that things will work themselves out for the best. Have a great Sunday and be well, pledge
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Your friend -Terri-
Thanks Terri. Appreciated.
As everyone else is saying, we are all here for you!
***BUT, YOU MUST BE CAREFUL AND PROTECT YOURSELF PHYSICALLY TOO!
I hope you are able to get him transferred to a long term care facility without him getting put back on the street first.
Best wishes,
Mary, madhatter.
Hi Mary,
I am hoping and praying that we can make that happen in the next day or two. My parents don't seem to understand what a dangerous situation this is BUT I do!! I so appreciate you caring and acknowledging that. Thanks again sweetie. Hugs -Terri-
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