i thought subutex was different from soboxone because it doesnt have the blocker. So is there a such thing as taking subutex to soon like there is with the soboxone?
there is no difference in the way you dose with subutex or suboxone. The buprenorphine molecule is what the opiates can't break through or the blocker as you called it. The naloxone in suboxone is a antagonist which when abuse through I.V. will throw the addict into instant withdrawals. So take it the same as suboxone...
I have taken suboxone and subutex but suboxone works best for me, and the waiting time is the same you have to be in withdrawal before taking the first dose of subutex,there the same its just subutex does not have naloxoen in it,but they both help great when your going through withdrawals or just trying to stay clean,hope this helps
thank you both very much for further helping me understand the differences between subutex and Suboxone. i too have taking both, bought off the streets, and i like subutex better. I would always getting major headaches when taking the Suboxone but never got them with the subutex. But now i have the subutex prescribed to me by a doc so i know i can stay off all those evil drugs and not have to worry about finding it on the streets! And i didnt wiat to long to take the sub yesteray morn, 12 hours or so after my last dose of heroin, and everything went smooth, actually went out with friends last night. I start out with a little peice to see if i react to it and then take larger and larger peices until i feel ok. Now i know what my dose is and its my second day and i feel great. After 2 years of abusing any opiate i could get my hands on i believe this is my ticket ot of hell. im very excited! lol
The wait time after using specifically heroin is different for everybody. I personally waited 18 hours after using, thougt I was in early stage of withdrawal and took an 8mg Suboxone. What a mistake. I went into p/w almost immediately for about two hours until I felt somewhat better. I relapsed and this time waited 24 long hours and still wasn't in full withdrawals but had no p/w and felt pretty good. My opionion on this is to wait at least 24 hours unless you are in heavy withdrawals before that. My rule of thumb is when I start getting the heroin sneezes, it's that time for me. I hear different opinions on subutex,most of which say you have to wait the same amount of time. It confuses me as well because Suboxone has naloxone which is basically narcan from what I understand which subutex does not have. The theory I am told is the bumprenorphine is that actuall blocker more so than the nalaxone. Best advice I can give why find out the hard way, wait till you can't take it anymore. Good luck andGod bless
Iv been tryn for the past few days to get back on subutex. Im so upset with myself for messn up again. It jus seems lik everytime i think im withdrawln enough to take it,.i end up in bad witdrawls! Iv waitd up to 14hrs n was in bad shape but still got sick. Im scared to even take it now. I really dnt kno wat to do at this point. I cant wait 24hrs, got two kids n wen im sick..im really in bad shape. I jus want to go back to bein ok again on my meds!!
Is it true that if I put myself into precipitate withdraw I can keep taking more buprenorphine and the withdraws will stop
Today I waited 19 hours before I took my 1st sobo, instant withdraws, so took another half. Only got worse. So I relapsed. I feel defeated and like I can't do it. I do t know what to do. I can't go on like this, that I know. Something has to give.
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