Got new form of a med I'm on, and it looks awful,help! The medicine is Clonazepam, generic for Klonopin, 0.5 mg and it's always been light yellow in color. Now it's bright orange, generic looking as hell, excuse my language. It has a 1 score line 2 on one side and nothing on the other. I just read it was from China and I don't really trust it. I remember a story on tv about how they put all kinds of chemicals in their meds, even road paint. It just worries me. What do you all think? Is Accord a good company or has it been around enough to know?
What do you know about ACCORD pharmaceuticals?
Added 16 Jul 2011:
Just wondering, has anyone ever gotten the yellow with the big M on it? Personally, those were my favorite of all. I know they have them in other counties around where I live, but I haven't been able to get them at my local pharmacy anymore. Do you know the brand, manufacturer,etc. of those? and, what did you think of them?
Yes, it is indeed an ugly pill. They are a Chinese company, but the lab the drugs are made in meets U.S. FDA & DEA standards. They would not be allowed to sell RX's to USA with out FDA approval; and DEA approval as the chemical is a schedule 4 control drug.(C-IV). FDA&DEA requires that the manufacturing facility meet said US standards. According to my info, they made the pills the same color orange as brand name clonazepam, (Klonopin) 1/2mg tabs. They also put the dose on the tablet to indicate the strength, as is common practice in most other countries, and 1/2 also appears at the top of 1/2mg Klonopin (brand) tabs. the pills contain on average .50-.53mg clonazepam . I was surprised when i opened my bottle and saw 100's of orange pills(instead of yellow). I'm curious to test them tonight :-). - Hope this helps.
Hey guys, I had the same thing happen today at my local pharmacy. I have been on generic Klonopin (the TEVA brand) for two years and it's worked well. I actually break the tablets in half and take them throughout the day.
I am on 0.5 MG dose and I recently was switched to the Accord Healthcare generic version and I much prefer the TEVA brand. The Accord brand seems to be cheap as heck and crumbles when I break the pills whereas the Teva brand does not.
Any idea on what's up with the switch over? My pharmacy used Teva for YEARS and I never had an issue and when I filled my script today, I got these funny looking Accord-brand pills.
One this to note: I checked on of the pamphlets from my last script that was filled with the Teva brand and the unit price was $29 but the unit price for the Accord was over $60! My co-pay remained the same, under $4 but it would appear that the pharmacy is paying more for Accord. What would be their reasoning for that???
Have you guys noticed ANY difference in terms of the effect of the Accord brand... all I've noticed is that they don't break apart as nicely as the Teva (they crumble) and they look cheaply made. I haven't taken it yet, so I can't comment.
Doing an Internet search, it seems like no one has heard about this Accord generic version of Klonopin. It must either be very new or hardly ever used. (Other generics were discussed at length.)
HAddictOC80 - Can you tell me more about what you mean about the binders being "weaker" in the Accord version? I am very nervous about having a cheaper (less effective) generic on hand when my Teva script is gone... I really had NO PROBLEMS with the Teva and I am not happy to switch.
I will call the pharmacy tomorrow and see if they plan to continue with this nonsense or if they will go back to Teva. I am sure the pharmacist will tell me that they are ALL THE SAME, but I don't think so... I much prefer the TEVA brand.
If they are going to continue with this company, I am going to find another pharmacy which is a shame.
So, after switching, what are your thoughts on the Accord KPIN?
Just an FYI: I called the pharmacy (Rite Aid) that I utilize and I spoke with the pharmacist about the change from my Teva generic to the Accord version. He said that they (the pharmacy) are experiencing huge issues with the company they use to get their generics from and that Teva is backlogged quite a bit and there is a shortage across the U.S.
He said to try a different generic next time if the Teva wasn't in stock and if the Accord wasn't working well. He stated that "they are grabbing whatever they can right now" (in terms of generics) and that the .5 MG is "by far the most prescribed out of the doses" which is why the .5 Tevas are hard to find right now.
I have taken a couple of the Accord doses and they do seem to be a bit "different," but I can't really say how. I definitely feel a little different than I did on the Teva and I much prefer the Teva. It seems to be a better quality generic.
I guess not all generics are created equal.
Same here, new generic accord pill that is only thing available and I'm extremely hesitant to taking a med made in China.
* China companies poisoned our petfood with fake protein, then after killing our pets, they put that same fake poison "protein" in their baby formula, killing and hurting infants there in China!
* Our FDA doesn't have enough people to keep up with outsourced manufactures and the US is cutting government programs such as the FDA on top of there not being enough monitoring as it is. I have serious doubts that an FDA agent has inspected the pill or will continue to inspect it.
I'm totally sketched to take this pill. This is rotten.
I was taking the Activis generic and got switched over to the Accord brand about 2 weeks ago. I play sports regularly and after switching over to the Accord I feel like my speed and reaction time is greatly diminished. At first I thought I just needed more sleep, more vitamins or something else. I finally backtracked the period where I started feeling so sluggish to the change in meds. This change has significantly reduced the quality and enjoyment of my life, I can't find any one around here that has Activis so I'm going to try Teva. I would highly advise against trying the Accord.
I received a Rx of the Accord 1mg clonazepam today, and am always curious about the differences in manufactures. This Accord does seem to be poorly bound-together, but potency seems on par with the Teva-branded clonazepam that I'm used to (and prefer over Mylan clonazepam -- it seems noticeably weaker). Pharmacists probably get annoyed with me about these matters, and yes, 'a molecule is a molecule', so it really *shouldn't* matter who MFG's a given substance, but I think it does.
There's a massive shortage of the 0.5 MG Teva right now in my area. It's time to refill my 'script and all of the local pharmacies have different generics. Many of them say they haven't seen Teva in months. My healthcare provider has offered to write a script for name brand. Does anyone know is the brand Klonopin .5 MG tablets are scored? I tend to break them in half...
I really hope Teva gets back into the marketplace soon.
I have been on clonazepan a long time. My last refill was this orange pill manufactured by Accord. I have been on this brand for two weeks, and I feel like I am not taking anything. I feel wired day and night. I find myself taking extra pills , because this brand is not working or is not as strong for me.
So I've been taking 1mg Clonazepam for a long time, but always the TEVA, which are light green and scored. My latest script, and I only just opened the bottle last night, are a teal blue, and they're hitting me so hard and knocking me out whereas the green TEVAs don't even come close to that.
I spoke with my pharmacy to check it was the correct dosage and it is, but I've had problems with generics of other medications before (it's actually noted in my file at CVS to only use Amneal Phenytoin capsules, bc my body will not tolerate the switch).
It's always the same spiel... the generics are identical there shouldn't be any problem, there is no change. The drug molecule may be identical but the fillers and binders are certainly different.
This thread has made me feel a lot better now, especially reading that the binders are a lot looser and let more of the drug go at once. No wonder I was comatose!
Hello. I am having problems with a brand change of another med and ran across your discussion. I am interested in your comments because I have been on clonazepam. With the best intentions my doctor prescribed it 18 years ago. It was like magic resolving my panic. Over time it was less effective, was increased in dose until I was prescribed 2mg up to 9 times a day as needed. I moved across country and my dose freaked out the new doctor. He insisted I decrease to no more than 6mg a day total. I did what he asked. Several times over the last 11 years of taking it at no more than 6mg a day I asked to be taken off of it. My complaint: It isn't doing anything so I don't want to take it. The doctor refused to help me get off safely, kept writing scripts for over a year without seeing me in person. Finally a social worker and my general practictioner (not the prescriber) approved a schedule for me to slowly get off of it. My first day without swallowing any was 11/21/14.
It took months of intense supervision by the doctor and mostly the social worker before I could function. I have had to learn to do the most basic things all over again. I now describe clonazepam as teflon-coating my emotions; nothing registered correctly. Great things were "so-so", awful things were "so-so".
I write about my experience without judgement of anyone. If you think you can't do life without the conazepam or if, like me, think it doesn't do anything maybe you can find a professional who has experience working with people on clonazepam to help them get off of it. For days I couldn't get out of my chair, pissed all over myself and didn't know it, had to be reminded to eat and drink and truly to breathe. Coming off it alone in my house was rough. I will not take that stuff ever again. My life is clearer, emotions register properly. I will never be the same but this sure feels better. I wish all of you the best in doing what is best for yourself. Please Please Please do not go off your clonazepam without medical supervision if you choose not to take it any more.
Pharmacists - even (perhaps especially?) PhD Pharmacologists - do not like the question: "Is the generic the same as the brand-name?"
True, 'a molecule is a molecule' and no matter what size, shape, color should not matter.
BUT the fillers, binders... at LEAST... can affect the absorption and subsequent metabolism of a given RX. This is simple and well documented fact, peak blood-plasma levels, etc...
All this to say, there absolutely are variances!
My advice? Transfer the Rx to another pharmacy, first asking them what brand of Generic they will be filling it with.
Warning: They will HATE this request!!! Big-chain Pharmacies especially. Small, perhaps compounding-size (they know what I am talking about) pharmacies SHOULD gladly and patiently take the time to look up what brand of anything, and tell you in advance.
In short, transfer to a different pharmacy. But, I cannot guarantee that they will be delighted when you ask, "what brand of generic xyz will it be?".
P.S. Accord is garbage. That said, MANY US/EU/CA Pharma Cos have their products *produced* overseas. I would not necessarily blame China! ($$$ is your clue... )
I just got a Hctz from Weiss instead of Costco. My blood pressure has gone up. I have a headache now for 2 days. The same 2 days on these new pills. My blood pressure has been 120/75 for years.
This happened to me once before when I had used Walmart. My husband and I had the same problem at the same time ,using Walmart.
Is there some place that will take these pillls and analyze them? I am fortunate, I get a headache when my pressure is up, some people don't. This is dangerous for those who do not check their BP.
FDA does not mean anything, really, insofar as "a molecule is a molecule". They are correct of course in that sense. Standard Pharmacists/Pharm Techs (I worked in Parenteral Pharmacology)
Let me just cut this short: A Chinese, Mexican, Cambodian, et al molecule is the same. That does NOT mean a given preparation/pill is the same, as in absorption for one. One milligram of one substance - and this is very well documented - may NOT be the same in terms of efficacy.
If you are prescribed anything that does not 'work' as other brands... it may/is not your imagination.
Ask another pharmacy what brand(s) they have in stock/prescribe. If this simple request upsets them, well, that is their job. Transfer your Rx to another, sentient pharmacy that is satisfactory! :)
If the tech kid does not "get it"... well, he loses your business and you in turn get a better pharmacist.
I just got the Accord clonazepam as well after being on the yellow pills for probably 20 years. I have ADHD and anxiety disorder which take turns at trying to ruin my life so I have resigned myself to taking lowest effective dose meds. I'm down to .5mg at night and really only taking it for sleep but yesterday I took one in the afternoon due to a heavy stress situation I am going through. I had just picked up the new prescription so I took one of the Accord ones and it made me crazy sleepy! Which is a bonus for me because normally I take it when I wake up in the middle of the night. I slept like a log last night. So for my needs I see this as an improvement. But if I tried to use the drug the way I used to (to function during the day, before my ADHD diagnosis) it would make me way too sleepy.
I’d ask for another brand. You can make a formal request for only one manufacturer. I actually take another medication called Quetiapine (generic). For years I took PAR with no problems. An oblong, light yellow pill with XR300 on it. About 6 months ago, I was switched to Accord. They did not look like they were professionally made-more like hand pressed. They were a darker yellow and round with a stamp. I took them for 2 weeks and started feeling as if I had the flu among other issues. I realized the only difference was the pill. I took them to a busy Walgreens to ask for a different brand. I walked up to the pharmacist, and said I thought something was off and maybe weren’t working. He looked at the name and without a single pause, he immediately walked back and gave me the other brand, no charge and thanks for coming in. Took the regular dosage and felt better in two days.
After 3 mos., they gave me Accord again. I had already opened them so I tried again. Two weeks in, I felt awful! I usually take 600mg. It wasn’t working. Manufacturer max is 800mg. I was taking 1200mg and still felt awful! I went back to the pharmacy, they replaced them again with no problem. They had to call the insurance company and they immediately said yes (they generally are a little annoying). When they gave them to me, they recommended I call the FDA. I did and they called me the next day! When the found out how much I was taking and it didn’t make me feel better. She then took a full report with MANY questions. At the end, she urged both me and my doctor to report them.
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