Hey guys! I will start off by saying that I have been using opiates for about 3 years now. It started with vikes..then perks..then methadone and now I am a mess. My whole life has been ruined. Before the methadone I was taking 5 percocet 10mg at a time and it wasnt even giving me a buzz (This is also after being on percocet for over a year). I am a 22 year old girl and I only weigh about 120lbs... My tolerance was sky high. What made me hit rock bottom was when I got a hold of a bunch of methadone and started using that because it made me feel normal... i was taking 10-20 10mg methadone a day for the last 6-8 months. Last thurs I ran out of methadone and was using percocet to get through the withdrawals. Finally enough was enough and I got a hold of this AMAZING suboxone dr. I had my induction on Tues..but the problem was I took 5 15 mg roxies at 4 am before my induction. When I got my first 8mg dose of Sub I immediately went into precipitated (?sp?) withdrawal for about an hr... then I started to feel a little more comfortable. The comfortable feeling didnt last so I took another 8mg pill later that night. Tuesday night was the worst night of my life I did not sleep a wink I had the worst wd pains the RLS..the hot and cold flashes that run through ur body and make u feel awful and of course the diarrhea and the stomach pain (and anxiety feeling) right above my belly button. On wed my dr increased my sub to 3x a day (8mg) slowly by taking halves. STILL NO RELIEF? I slept last night maybe for 2 hrs at best and I am completely miserable. I took my sub this morning and still I am uncomfortable and miserable and I cant even take anything to relieve my twitchy legs or my anxiety belly pains or the INTENSE hot and cold flashes. I have even considered suicide (I also suffer from bipolar)..I can't do this anymore. Does anyone have any good advice? I need help before I do something that I can't take back. No one in my life understands how hard it is to feel these symptoms CONSTANTLY for days on end while I can't sleep or barely sit down. My dr will be calling me today to see how the 3X a day is doing..and I have my second appt tomorrow... but I am just not hopeful. To top things off my fiance who was my partner in crime with using..he is feeling completely normal from 2 8mg a day. He sleeps and isn't suffering at all. I am hysterically crying right now bc I can't deal anymore. PLEASE HELP!!! thank u!!
PLEASE HELP! Going through wds... and on suboxone?
Question posted by m.coniker403 on 12 Aug 2010
Last updated on 17 May 2017
Hi,how are u now?? I can't take this anymore either,I'm researching options if getting clean as we speak but I must say u seem to be a very strong woman,u got this and u inspire me to want to change also. God bless u and please remember NEVER GIVE UP!!!
Please remember what I am telling myself about every 60 seconds, and that is these 4 words: This is only temporary. I am so sick of being sick too... but there will come a day when we wake up and feel normal. Alive even! I just can't stop crying... and my poor sweet kids deserve so much better. Good luck! I am prayin every second for you... and me! (:
After using opiates for over 10 yrs, my Dr. put me on 1 1/2 sub in the morning, and 1 at night(8mg). I felt great. No w/d no rls. So I do not understand how this is not helping you? Unless you are allergic? I had to ask him to cut mine back a little only because I cant sleep for the sub's give me such energy, and I feel great? I sure hope you start getting better. And would continue to talk to your Dr. Do not go back to methadone, or opiates... Some way some how it will get better!!! Please let me know.
I am so shocked at your side effects? I was on morphine for many more years than you, and one 8 mg sub every other day takes it all away. I am to take 2 and a half a day but they give me so much energy as the morphine did at 1st, that I cant take as much as Dr wants? I dont get why you should be going through such a rough time?
I was on suboxone for about 8 months. Started out at 12mgs a day and then about 4 months into it I started weaning off of it. I weaned myself down to .5 mgs a day, I did that for 2 weeks and then I stopped taking it. That was 3 weeks ago. The physical withdrawals were not as bad as the opiate withdrawals and subsided about 8 days into it. Now I'm on day 22 and I'm feeling better for the most part. I started having some depression 2 weeks ago so I started working out in the gym and that helped. I'm still not near back to 100% before I started this process but I think I'm past the worst.
It is a long process, hang in there and it will get better.
As I read your situation I wanted to cry. I was there right where you are now. Ask your doctor to prescribe neurontin, or gabapentin in generic, for the RLS in your legs and it also helps with pain. I am on 3 doses a day of 400mgs and it really helps. Also see about getting in to the hospital to get off the pain pills with intraveineous suboxone. The treatment is about a week in the hospital. PLEASE PLEASE do not call it quits. Think about the people you leave behind. Then think about yourself. You can do this.
I am so sorry u are going thru this. I know how u feel. I have been going to a methadone clinic for almost 6 years now on a stable dose of 80mgs and have been wanting to try to stop going for some time now but i am terrified of the withdrawls. I have 2 children and a husband and alot of responsibilities that i wont b able to take on while in withdrawal plus the bipolar thing runs in my family as well and even after the withdrawls r over i still need something to keep me sain and every antidepressant i have ever taken has never helped. Most of the antidepressants out there have more side affects than the methadone and some r costly as well. I dont know what sum1 like me shld do. I would like to b free of all meds and b normal everyday with nothing but i dont know if i can do that and b happy. Alot of people i have talked to has done just great on the Suboxone then i have read alot of bad things about it 2.
I just wonder if the ones that r getting sick from it is not waiting long enough for the methadone to leave their systems before starting Suboxone or if it just works for some people and dont for others. I dont wanna start something that isnt any better than the methadone. I was thinking about trying to find like a 10 day inpatient place that i can go to & stay there until i can get thru the withdrawls and b away from everybody while doing so cuz i know i wont b able 2 handle anything while im going thru this and i would like to have someone there incase i need medical attention cuz the shock to your body coming off of methadone could b to much for some. I am so afraid of doing this cuz of all the stories i have heard. I have withdrawled from pain pills and those withdrawls where bad enough and i hear methadone is way worse. I have had to go a couple of days without methadone b4 and started to withdrawal but im not sure if methadone was completely out of my system or not. Mayb if u can find a place that can help u come off of methadone and Suboxone and just b done with it all together that would b best. That way u will have sum1 there if u need them at all times and away from a stressful enviroment. If u have to go to the emergency room dont sit there and deal with this by yourself and PLEASE dont think about suicide cuz this will pass u just need a little help. Im with ya girl your not alone. I dont know if your a religious person or not but i am and im gonna b doin a whole not of praying now and when i do decide to start weening off of this stuff. We have to put our faith in God that he will see us thru this!! Good Luck and ill say a prayer for u!!!
wow girl i know what what u are going through. I have been a herion addict for three years hit rock bottom a few times. I now am off the herion but addicted to subs.I think because u said your talerance is so high the subs are not helping yet. same thing happen to me.Plus u can not mix subs with any other opiate,because subs contain buprenorphine witch is a theraputic opiate thats given for opiate dependences.And it cantains a narcotic blocker.I think your body has to adjust.HANG in there im going though withdrawls just to get off the subs.I WANT a normal life and dont want to have to take any pill to feel normal.I guess i have to suffer some before i can .
you really need to stick with the suboxone. I think what you did is you didn't go into a withdrawal period from the pain pills long enough before you took your first dose of suboxone. There is nothing else out there better than suboxone. Stick with the suboxone. it will eventually work. you will be very glad you did. Suboxone has allowed me to live a normal life again.
WOW!! This is odd to me! I used to take all the different pain pills same as you right up til I was switched to suboxone also and my tolerance was very very high. the suboxone worked for me the very first dose. I had absolutely NO withdrawal symptoms. Suboxone saved my life.
This is what scares me too, M con. I'm new to this site so I can't navigate it yet
I am very worried. I got appt for sub dr on 20th to be inducted 21st. I am weaning down but nurse told me I only need to be in 24 hrs of Wds. Like from the time of my appt from 930am the 20th to induction 830am the 21st. Every other dr I've talked to say Wds for 3 days. I'm scared this experience will go bad getting started from what im hearing. I'm going to follow it through but im confused why some Drs say 3 days and some 24 hrs. I heard timing is the difference between a good and bad experience. I'm still recovering from hysterectomy, but I have to do this NOW and build my life back up!! Please give me some advice. I have to do this right!!
Oh sweetheart you brought a tear to my eye! I completely understand how you feel. Suicide is not the answer. You need to try some other things along witht the suboxone to overcome those feelings at night. During the day I found that taking a long walk works for the pain in my legs. Also make sure you force lots of water on yourself. You could be dehydrated . I don't know why the sub is not working for you so you need to talk to your doctor for sure. My ex got me addicted to pain meds and I am still paying for it 3 years later by being addicted to sub now. It does get better though. I really hope you decide to stick with it. If you have any questions you can ask me. I have been through it all and with two children by my side.
You can do this without the subs!!! Look, for the past 4 yrs i have been taking some form of opiate to get high, over the past year i spirled completely out of control. The last 6 months I was spending roughly $70-120 per day. I would take 15 per tens and that still wasnt enough, somedays i would take 4 30mg roxies and a few perks, also really enjoyed opania's, daulaudids and the oc's. Pills are devil and will rob you of your soul!!! This is how i did it- i have been clean for 3 weeks clean of any opiates, other than the 2 subs that i used vary sparingly the 1st week. My view on the subs is this, all they are is the "new generation" of methodone. As a Methodone clinic is normally associated with a herion junkie, a suboxone clinic is for the pill junkies and neither one of these methods are going to fix the problem.
THey both just prolong the inevitable- WITHDRAWL!!! mY 1ST week I had 2 subs and I tapered off thru out the week and then the detox began- i had muscle aches, bones, joints, and my skin was crawling, no enery,ect ect all the "norm" sypmtoms. I had naproxen, clonidine, clodipine, b12 pills, B liquid complex, drank tea to flush my liver and kidneys, but honestly what helped the most was some all natural medical grade maurijuana that thankfully my friends had brought home from colorado!!! This is a mind game- you no if you really want to quit. Since day1, i have had no desire to get any pills and believe me im still getn phone calls and text!!! The past 3 weeks has been the most spritual awakening for me, I have cried out to God,multiple times everyday and I promise you that if you seek him- he will be with you every step of the way! The aches and pains where all worth it and i truely believe that i should have felt much much worse than how i did and my dr was about speechless because of how great i looked,my state of mind and all that stuff. Start praying and talking to God and he will get you thru this. I realized thru this ordeal that God is not the one that "let this happen"- we did- he allows us to get beat down so badly, that we really dont have any other choice than to cry out to him and when you do he will be beside you every step of the way!!!
You can go through it if you stick with others who have been where you are and trust their support to get you through it. I spent 15 sleepless days and nights, lost 15 lbs during the first week, and had to FORCE myself to get out of bed to get fluids going. Juice, soup, no coffee, no sodas, and no plain water; just lots of vegetable and fruit juices at first. Frozen cold packs on the back of the neck help with the painful muscles. I could feel whole bands of muscles turn rock hard. Then the sheets of sweat... ugh! My doctor even offered to put me BACK on the Oxycodone. These docs know their drugs but they know nothing about addiction. Isn't that what we are talking about? This is not an admonishment, it is a disease and the only way to start recovery is to get off the chemicals; whatever they are, and whatever form they come in. You won't die from narcotics withdrawal as can happen from alcohol (DTs can be fatal) even though you may wish you would die.
I am not being funny about that. I started having suicidal ideation, and had someone close to me come to my house and remove a loaded revolver. Perhaps that is TMI but I doubt I am the only one. If you are thinking that way, get a hotline phone number, call a relative or friend. maybe look into a 12 step program if you are into that. I am no spring chicken, and if I can survive the ass kicking I took from the dragon, so can you my friend... best to you.
please do not do anything as cruel as suicide!!! It hurts the people you leave behind so badly, and forever! Your life may be a mess right now, but you are still young enough and obviously have the desire to get off this roller coaster. Trust me when I say that I do know exactly what you are feeling. You feel alone, miserable, ashamed, depressed, and feel that no one will forgive you for your past. Well, your wrong! I started off taking pain meds for excrutiatingly painful migraine H/A's. The headaches got worse and more frequent. The meds didn't work as well so I took more. Before I knew it I ended up in the ER on weekends hooked up to an IV of the strongest pain meds that exist. Pretty soon my job is suffering, my family is falling apart, and I wake up one day and think that my only way out is suicide. Luckily my husband didn't agree. He took me to a detox facility where I stayed and went through hell for two weeks.
By the time they let me out I was begging for help. Detox facilities are all about money and power over the patients. I speak as a former patient, and a Nurse. I guess I've always had more compassion for people than most nurses. most people don't understand just how easy it is to fall prey to these drugs. You start off innocently and before you know it 20 yrs. Has gone by. Anyhow, what I'm trying to say is that it can happen to anybody and it does! Hang in there kiddo, help is out there. I researched for a Suboxone clinic in my area, and believe it or not, most doctors have never even heard of it. I got the info from another nurse in my family. The clinic I go to is very expensive as they all are. And unfortunately, most insurance companies do not pay for it or your medication. here's the ironic part, my insurance co. Was always willing to pay for 120 Lortab a month, plus 60 oxycomtin to go with it, but not for the Suboxone treatment!! Can you believe it? Well, I kept fighting for it and eventually, after I paid for the first visit of $250.00 plus the $573.00 for a one month supply of medication, they finally agreed to pay for it. Thank God, because who can afford it otherwise? However, if you are willing to pay for the drugs, pay for the treatment and get your life back. You can do it!No one ever understood what I was talking about when I would describe that awful feeling of anxiety in my stomach. But you do. I would hear, just stop taking the meds, what is the problem? Not so easy is it? I promise you will get through this. I take two tablets of 8mg tabs each day. I have been clean for over a year now, but I continue to take the Suboxone because believe it or not it helps with migraine pain. Fortunately, I do not get them often anymore. But I will probably stay on this medication forever because I finally have my life back and I want to keep it!! please keep trying. I'm going to work in a drug abuse facility now so that I can get the word out there that there is a better way. People need to be educated. Methadone was worse than the oxycomtin!! It doesn't help. Suboxone does, if you follow the directions and never, ever look back. Give it another try. If you take it right after you took something like methadone, or oxycontin it will immediately put you into withdrawals. You need a ten day detox first, before taking Suboxone. Then when you take it you will be alright. I sleep better now than I ever have. please don't give up on yourself. You are worth saving, your not a bad person, you just got caught up in a vicious cycle. Hope this helps!! Nikki. for two weeks
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