Just got told my 6 yr old has ADHD. He,s on 20 mg of Vyvance.With in 2 hrs of taking it he won't stop talking. he starts a sentence and doesn't finish it because he's started talking about someting else. He gets very emotional on top of it. Its like his mind is in overdrive and his mouth can't keep up.
Is Vyvance suppose to make you even more hyper and emotional if you have ADHD?
Question posted by stmic1319 on 31 Dec 2010
Last updated on 26 May 2023 by Disaster Brat
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Okay, this will be long, so consider this a warning -- I have ADHD (Combined Type). There are three different types according to DSM-5. What is his usual response if he has caffeine? Is it the same or similar? Trouble with school? Did the doctor have you and his primary teacher to fill out questionnaires? The following link goes to the quite popular Vanderbilt questionnaires typically completed by parents and teachers. It is the best way to diagnose a child with ADHD, along with which type.
https://www.nichq.org/sites/default/files/resource-file/NICHQ_Vanderbilt_Assessment_Scales.pdf
Also, is the doctor his PCP or does the doctor have training in mental health disorders? If you have any questions concerning the diagnosis and/or treatment plan, I suggest checking your insurance for someone with a background and training in it. Counseling by someone with training in ADHD behaviors can also be of help, since it would include behavioral training and helping him learn how to deal with and control the behaviors.
I ask these questions only because I always meet parents whose kids receive a diagnosis of ADHD just because they have the symptoms, even when they don't really have it. A diagnosis of ADHD occurs when the symptoms are out of control and the person does not have the capability to control them, regardless of how hard they try. The medication is not designed to get rid of the behaviors. It's designed to give the person an easier time learning to control the behaviors themselves. Everyone shows those symptom at one time or another, but they are taught how to control them, for the most part. Most of those with ADHD don't have the capability to do that themselves. That's the difference between having it and not having it. I've always told parents, that talk to me about my experience, to give their child a cup of something like Iced Tea or Mt. Dew some day off at home and watch for their reaction to it. If they seem calmer and more focused, then there is a high likelihood that they have it. If they start bouncing off the walls, they most likely don't. Stimulants have the opposite effect on people with ADHD and that's what most of the medications are made up of.
What you described, though, sounds like me off my meds. I'll go through so many topics, just within a few minutes, that I'll suddenly forget what I was in the middle of saying and what the original topic was, especially if it's something I am knowledgeable about and/or feel strongly about. If it's with my son, we both forget. Lol. Another possibility is one my PCP warned me of when I told her about getting Monster energy drinks for studying, since I don't have a current Rx. I'm working on moving, so I don't want to get started with doctors or procedures before I move. Her warning is that if I take in too many stimulants of any kind, it is liable to make the original symptoms return. She said that too many would be like anyone without ADHD taking them. So, be sure that the diagnosis is correct because if you didn't mention any similar behaviors such as when he was on Vyvanse and the questionnaires weren't completed, he may not even have it. If he does, and a specific drug seems to be exasperating the issue rather than helping, (1) he may not have it or (2) he might not be on the best medication/dosage for his needs.
Another piece of advice is to research, research, research. I have 25+ medical conditions, I have about 13 medications to take daily, I'm back in school trying to get my college degree, and don't have any time, really, to research all I want to about them, but that's been my greatest weapon to fight against these conditions. There are at least several other choices that may offer the same features in a different way and at a different dosage.
I take Vyvanse 70mg once a day, and it makes me feel calm and focused. There are multiple types of ADHD medication, and some are just better suited for a person's personal chemistry than others (which is why they are designed so differently!). For example, Vyvanse is in a class known as amphetamines. While still a stimulant, Ritalin is NOT an amphetamine. Strattera is treatment for ADHD but is NOT considered a stimulant!
People who have mood disorders on top of ADHD may need to be on a non-amphetamine or non-stimulant type medication treatment. It sounds to me like your 6 year old does not respond to amphetamines very well at all and shouldn't be taking them. This is not abnormal; this is just your son's chemistry. It does not mean Vyvanse causes people who have ADHD to act that way at all. It just means Vyvanse works for people with ADHD with different chemistry and needs than your son. Does that make sense?
Make an appointment with your son's doctor and explain that you don't think amphetamines are appropriate for treating his ADHD and maybe try something less stimulating. Amphetamines are a BIG deal! They are some of the strongest type of stimulant on the market, and Vyvanse is one of the top amphetamine-type stimulants on top of that!
The idea is, you should always take the minimum dose that has the desired effect. This leads to less dependency issues and side effects. Why has your son been put on such a strong medication to begin with? Has he been on other medications first? If not, then I would wonder what the doctor is thinking going so high for the first medication!
Wow this has helped me alot.. I notice the same thing as this mother's son. I'm going to make appointment right away.
This is a standard (low) dose for children -nothing is wrong or using this otherwise /somtimes excellent medication. Its not for her son anyways if he becomes more hyper.
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