I have been using roxys for over a year now and I'm finally through. I obtained a few subutex as well as suboxone. Im thinking of taking the subutex first (since it does not have the opiate blocker) then switch to the suboxone? Is this a good idea? And can I take suboxone after subutex without waiting for acute withdraws or will that throw me into precipitated withdraw? Im also not sure how much suboxone I should take. I have the 8mg sublingual strips. Should I take the whole thing or cut it in half. My body is used to 200-300 mgs of roxy. Also how long should I take suboxone, I do not want to become dependent on it?
Need to know how much suboxone is needed and how long do I need to take it untill Im sub free?
Question posted by finallythrough on 25 Sep 2011
Last updated on 20 June 2018
4 Answers
foster7
9 June 2013
I know their telling u to wait til u get to a 26 til u take the meds. But it never hurt me n I took it as soon as I got my script filled. Wish u the best of luck
icedout
27 May 2012
a freelance unlicensed pharmaceutical supplyman... i love it you should coin that phrase.
Inactive
27 May 2012
Thanks, going for politically correct sometimes you have. To soften phrases or words, I thought that fit for the phrase, drug dealer. Our counselor pointed out, even if someone gives you a pill that is an rx, that is drug dealing. Patti
Inactive
25 Sep 2011
You need to start with as little as possible, a piece of the film, like half or quarter, then wait 2 full hours before you decide you need more, if you cheat on the COWS test, you will go into precip. You need to wait at least 24 hours from last dose of roxy and hit a 26 on the COWS test and yes you can take subutex after suboxone or suboxone after subutex, but start with no more than half one of those films
Inactive
25 Sep 2011
Subs aren't magic, and there is no set time or amount of pills that anyone can say, hey, you are over this and healed. We aren't judging people who obtain subs from ahem... a freelance unlicensed pharmaceutical supplyman, it is just that they usually don't know how to tell people how to take them or much about addiction. Suboxone is supposed to be only given to those who agree to go to addiction counseling, but many don't go and it really is a short cut not to go, many people relapse because there are emotional triggers they didn't work on.
Jillynnie
25 Sep 2011
Patti,
You can take it from here. :)
Good luck, Finally!
~Jillynnie
Inactive
26 Sep 2011
No one is trying to make you feel bad about not using a dr, just trying to keep you safe, just so you can know just a bit more about suboxone, go to youtube and look up suboxdoc, he has many easy to understand videos on suboxone and is an addiction specialist and former subs user, also go to wikipedia.org and look up suboxone. This way you will have some credible info on suboxone and you will see we are trying to help and keep you safe.
Jillynnie
26 Sep 2011
patti,
I asked the mg of each so I could determine what to induce him at.
If his subs are 8mg need to not start on the whole thing.
Thanks for picking up for me.
Jillynnie
Inactive
26 Sep 2011
haven't seen this poster answer, hope they did check responses tho
Sopranos1
20 June 2018
Clinical Opiate Withdrawal Scale is COWS. A lot of people don't know what that is. Yes you need to be 26 minimum on the scale before you start Suboxone.
Jillynnie
25 Sep 2011
finally,
Hi and welcome to the site. First, let me address the issue of the use of roxy's. Were you a recreational user or was it for pain? If pain, then has the problem been addressed? If recreational then may I ask how you got the subs? Both subutex and suboxones? Just need to clear this up before I can proceed with any advice. This is in NO WAY a judgement, I just need to know some more background info.
Thank you,
and again, welcome to the site!
~Jillynnie
finallythrough
25 Sep 2011
Recreational user no pain at all. I got the subs from a friend who just so happened to have 3 of each type. I can get more if needed. I just have a physically demanding job and there is no way I can work if sick. So I can't afford any withdrawal symptoms.
Jillynnie
25 Sep 2011
finally,
okay. Here is how subs works. You will have to be in withdrawals until you reach a 26 on the COWS sheet. You can download this from the web. The COWS sheet is a clinical opiate withdrawal scale. You can google it and print it out. You need to be honest with this sheet and not let anxiety get in the way of your true numbers. It is going to have you rate your bp, anxiety, basic all around feelings. It is important that you don't let your anxiety make you want to 'cheat' on your numbers because if you start your subutex too soon you will go into what is called precip withdrawals. You won't like that. not fun!
So, once you are at a 26 then you can take one subutex. Wait at LEAST an hour. See if it stops the wd's. If it doesn't then you can take ONE more subutex.
Now, before I go any further, get this info and tell me the milligrams of the subutex and the suboxone.
I will be right back and see what your answer is, I have to go help husband for a sec.
Print out your sheet and read it over, I will check back.
Jillynnie
Sopranos1
20 June 2018
Whether he or she is a recreational user or is using it for pain doesn't make any difference if one is addicted. Because Subs will help with his pain as well. I wouldn't start with 8mg. I would start with 3-4mg and then start tapering down every few weeks.
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