how long do you have to wait to switch from the subutex to the suboxone?? I just don't want to feel like sh*t coming off of the methadone after 3 years... I am so ready to get over feeling like blahhhh when I don't have anything!! I plan on using 4mg of suboxone a day for about 2 weeks so I don't get hooked on that, is this smart?? I WANT TO FEEL NO PAIN!!
Can I take subutex 24hrs after taking 14mgs of methadone?
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- 25 Jan 2010 by Taraindy29
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- suboxone, subutex, opiate dependence, opiate withdrawal, pain, methadone
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mpvt25 Jan 2010
You need to wait until you are in significant withdrawals otherwise you will suffer like you have never suffered before. Don't you have a suboxone doctor to tell you this??? If you do then he should be monitoring you right now.Good luck... Dave
P.S. Go see a suboxone doctor, you will not make it on 2 weeks after 3 years on methadone. Methadone is nothing like heroin or oxycodone and it needs to be treated as such... Dave
12 Jul 2010
Very smart thinking. trust me when i tell you... You will get hooked on suboxone. tell you doctor the truth and try starting at the lowest dose possible. whatever you honestly need on day one take that and tapper down by half every month following. i think you can make it work in 2 weeks..i did that in the past but im not sure how it will be going from methadone to only 4mg. i was just stupid time and time again and kept relapsing and finally just said fuck it and got hooked on subutex/suboxone by telling myself its better then heroin... dumb dumb dumb
9 Dec 2010
The best way to do it starts with your usage of methodone. I cannot stress the importance of tapering off methodone. I know it hard but its harder if you don't. Once you taper down to about 10mg daily for a week than start the suboxene treatment when you feel the withdrawal. I have even tapered down to .5mg every two days and quit cold turkey after a week at .5/day. It's the best way. Switching from suboxene to subutex shouldn't be a problem bc the only thing your losing from switching is the naloxone( narcan) that suboxene has.
6 Aug 2011
I'll put it to you this way- if you are addicted or dependant or frequent user of opiates, subutex i believe will through you into precipitated withdrawl. Obviously Suboxone will, but i believe even subutex without nalaxone will do it too. I would never even think of buprenorphine in my case (daily clinic)
JohnnyBri...19 Jan 2012
From my experience when I was in a detox facilty. I was taking much more methadone(300-350 mg's p/d)for 4 years. They were giving me liquid vicodin for the first five days and on the sixth day they gave me 4mg ofsuboxone and within 20 minutes my whole body went into withdrawl I had horrible cramps in my arms and legs and could'nt stop tossing and turning in bed from the pain it was the worst 3 days of my life switching over from methadone to suboxone. But after about 5 days my body started to adapt to the suboxone. I doubt it will be that bad for because your on a much lower dose. Good Luck
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Dave is right good luck taking subs for 2 weeks and being on methadone for 3 years. You need a plan methadone withdrawal compared to oxycodone withdrawal is more long and drawn out. I was on methdone 60mg for 17 months. October 18 I started suboxonae i got down to 15mgs and after a couple of days and in withdrawal I started the subs. I stayed on a low dose at 4mg i am now at 2mg and I am starting to just now get my energy back and sleep back and i know hundeds of people on it because where i live thousands of people are on the clinic and i live 2 minutes aways from it. I know people who come of methadone and I see them months later and they all say the same i just dont feel right, but you will and it takes about 3-6 months to readjust. The suboxone helped me with the withdrawals and funtion to about 60% of my capacity but i go to counseling and taking supplements and starting to be productive. if you go to na or aa or any support group thats fine but 2 weeks and all thats going to do is just prolong the withdrawals for 2 weeks. Take the smalles dose possible and work out a plan and then maybe after 6 months to a year taper my taper has been fine. People who say i dont want to get hooked on subs or its the worst withdrawal is because its they come off to quick and dont plan for the secondary withdrawal from subs, my doctor will give a small dose of ultram at the end and maybe clonodine and he says it works well but he know most people dont need 32mg of suboxone a day, thats were you will be on it for years but hey if your life is better then ok. get in touch with me if you need help believe me i know about methadone. I have been on it 3 seperate times in my life and each time i said i would never go on it again.
If you take subs to soon, you will put your body threw a worse withdraw. It's recommended that you wait 2+ days depending on how much methadone you have been taking and for how long. Methadone is stored in your fat tissue cells even after you stop taking them. So w/d's I'm sure you know the feelings, your body actually feels sweaty, nausea, diarrhea, clammy, headache, etc. Remember subs don't help with the pain, its only a temp crutch for the withdraws.
Buprenorphine DOES help with pain - (it's widely prescribed FOR chronic pain mgmt) - which is a large part of what makes it such an effective tool for opiate withdrawal. Also - methadone stores partially in BONE MARROW which is why it's such a prolonged withdraw. Longer than meds that store mainly in adipocytes.
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