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Old 06-21-2007, 06:25 AM
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Default Lexapro related suicide?

My sister committed suicide two weeks ago, within a week of starting Lexapro. She went from being slightly depressed and anxious about her divorce to barely capable of functioning. She told me that after taking Lexapro, she felt something 'snap' in her brain and it scared her. My sister was a capable, funny, busy Mom, volunteering at school and taking great care of her home and kids seven weeks before this happened. She found out her husband was cheating and stealing and as she moved toward a divorce, became anxious and depressed, but not suicidal until after she was prescribed Lexapro.
Has anyone heard of this before, or does anyone know of any dangers of taking Lexapro with Synthroid?
Thank you if anyone has information to share.
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:44 PM
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I'm very sorry for your loss.I have heard of the snapping of the brain before as my cousin committed a couple years ago and he had mentioned this to my wife.I don't think it's necessarily related to the drug as it is to the sickness that my cousin had.You never know what's happening in someones head really.Have you googled this to see if there are any support groups for people that have had family or friends commit suicide while taking Lexapro??? I bet you would find some if you googled it.Once again I'm sorry for your loss and wish you all the best in the future......Dave
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Suicidal ideation, suicide, and lexapro

First: I'm 22, and I took 5mg/day of Lexapro for 2.5 months.

I was prescribed Lexapro for treating depression a few months ago. I remember that prior to taking the Lexapro I felt very bad, but had what I'd call only very "distant" thoughts of "not being around."

However, within the first few days of taking Lexapro, and particularly during the first 2 weeks, I experienced SIGNIFICANT AND ALMOST CONSTANT suicidal ideation (thinking of killing myself).

In addition, the suicidal ideation was of a particularly strong type... not only was I thinking of killing myself, but I was thinking of many different ways to do it and trying to ensure that if/when I went through with it, it would be effective and permanent. According to medical literature, this is the worst kind of suicidal ideation (short of an actual attempt) because you have progressed to the active "planning" stage.

I cannot emphasize enough how frequent and strong the thoughts and "urges" were, but I kept "hanging on."

Also, the suicidal thinking never really stopped though the 2 months I was taking it, though it was slightly less than the first 2-3 weeks.

Another thing worth mentioning: I took 10mg the first day, and because of its strong effects I cut my dose to 5mg the next day and kept it at 5mg every day.

Another side effect that developed other than the suicidal thinking was constant sleeping and even more lethargy than I had before going on medication. At first I thought I was just sleeping all the time and lazy, but I gradually realized after a few 15-18 hour "nights" that it couldn't just be me!

I was also seeing a therapist throughout the entire process and the therapist could not help me work my way "out of" the suicidal thinking, despite alot of effort on both her part and mine.

Finally, almost as a "last attempt at life" before offing myself, I concluded that I would ask a local clinic to prescribe Wellbutrin after alot of research.

I selected Wellbutrin because I knew that it worked on a different part of the brain than most other antidepressants: it targets dopamine (reward chemical) rather than seratonin (feel good chemical). Wellbutrin is the only antidepressant in the US that targets dopamine primarily (it is NOT an SSRI or SNRI like most of the other antidepressants). Dopamine is associated with addictive drugs, though Wellbutrin has no abuse potential. Dopamine is also what is targeted in ADD/ADHD drugs.

So I got prescribed 300mg/day of Wellbutrin SR (not XL), starting with 150mg/day for the first 3 days, then upping to 150mg/twice-daily. I've been taking for nearly a month now. I "weaned" off of Lexapro by taking approx 2.5mg every day for two weeks, then stopping (I used a pill splitter).

Too my surprise, I began actually feeling better within days of taking the Wellbutrin, and gradually got better and better despite poor things going on in my life that actually worsened in some ways. It helped me to actually deal with these ongoing problems (still going on now).

I was also kind of shocked when I realized that I hadn't had any suicidal ideation for a few days consecutively (after taking Wellbutrin for about a week). It's now been a month since I've been on Wellbutrin, and even with some really bad news that made me feel very sad -- I didn't think about suicide.

It's actually kind of traumatic thinking back to my Lexapro days and strong suicidal urges and planning. They felt very real and as though I was wanting to do it because of myself (not some drug). I now know that the drug played a major role in my thinking, and very real desire to kill myself. It feels very strange thinking about my state of mind over all of those weeks.

Suicidal ideation are apparently pretty common with SSRI/SNRI's like Lexapro, Paxil, Prozac, Effexor, Zoloft, so much so that warning labels are required by the FDA on these medications. Wellbutrin also got thrown into the group when the FDA issued suicide warnings, though I've googled about the internet for people reporting (new or greater) suicidal urges on Wellbutrin and I've found no forum postings of that nature. However, such postings abound for the other drugs like Lexapro, with people reporting increased suicidal thinking. Wellbutrin is prescribed very frequently (comparable to Lexapro), so you'd expect at least a few postings if that was a common side effect.

Anyways, perhaps Wellbutrin does increase suicidal ideation for some people, but my experience was exactly the opposite, fortunately.

I should note that the factors in my life haven't really changed, and if anything they have worsened in several respects. Yet, I'm feeling better and I can better manage these things. I'm now working on consolidating my view of life and trying to develop positive outlooks within my own thinking, with the support of Wellbutrin.

- Texan, 22 years old.







Other notes:

I stopped seeing the therapist before I started Wellbutrin, so therapy had nothing to do with recovery. I also used none of the techniques from therapy, because I found them useless over the months I went. I attribute my improvement completely to the Wellbutrin and nothing else.

I specifically insisted on taking the branded form of Wellbutrin and not the generic bupropion substitute because of many incidental reports on the internet that the generic form didn't work when some patients taking Wellbutrin switched to it (to save money). When those same patients went back on the branded Wellbutrin, the got better again. Maybe it was a bad batch, or poor production process used with the generic.

However -- I am planning on trying the generic form at some point in the next few months, but I want to get a few good months behind me before I "risk" switching to the generic. I DO NOT want to be in the depths of depression or suicidal thinking, and I'm not ready to explore that possibility right now if the generic in fact doesn't work.



Some quick facts from wikipedia:

SSRI's:
* citalopram (Celexa, Cipramil, Emocal, Sepram, Seropram)
* escitalopram oxalate (Lexapro, Cipralex, Esertia)
* fluoxetine (Prozac, Fontex, Seromex, Seronil, Sarafem, Fluctin (EUR))
* fluvoxamine maleate (Luvox, Faverin)
* paroxetine (Paxil, Seroxat, Aropax, Deroxat, Rexetin, Xetanor, Paroxat)
* sertraline (Zoloft, Lustral, Serlain)
* dapoxetine (no known trade name)

SNRI's:
* venlafaxine (tradenames Effexor XR®, Effexor®) is the first and most commonly used SNRI. Although it also works on dopamine somewhat at high dosages, the majority of its effect is on serotonin and norepinephrine.
* desvenlafaxine (tradename Pristiq®) is the active metabolite of venlafaxine and is believed to work in the same manner. It will be introduced by Wyeth in late 2007-early 2008.
* sibutramine (tradenames Meridia®, Reductil®) is an SNRI which failed to show antidepressant activity in animal tests, but instead has been widely marketed as an appetite suppressant drug for weight loss.
* nefazodone (tradename Serzone®) is an antidepressant with efficacy similar to SSRIs, but without the sexual side effects. In fact, Serzone at times may act similarly to Wellbutrin in its neutral or at times positive effect on function. It has been discontinued in several countries due to rare cases of liver failure. The tradename "Serzone®" has been discontinued, however generic nefazodone is currently available (May 06). However, the liver failure is rare, and a simple blood test every 6 months to assess liver enzyme levels is sufficient. Nefazodone has an active metabolite which at higher doses (> 250mg/day) can increase anxiety.
* milnacipran (tradename Dalcipran®/ Portugal; Ixel®/ France) has shown to be significantly effective in the treatment of depression and Fibromyalgia syndrome (FMS). Although it has not yet been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use in the United States, it has been commercially available in Europe and Asia for several years.
* desipramine (tradenames Norpramine®, Pertofraneis®) is technically a tricyclic antidepressant, and is usually categorized as such. It works, however, on both serotonin and norepinephrine, so it can also be considered an SNRI.
* duloxetine (tradename Cymbalta®) by Eli Lilly and Company, also inhibits serotonin reuptake and has been approved for the treatment of depression and neuropathic pain in August of 2004.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:32 PM
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Hi Texan,
I am sorry that you have been through such an ordeal, but I am so happy that you hung in there and found a way to not only survive, but become proactive in your treatment.
My sister jumped from the 8th floor of a parking garage in Boston, just hours after she promised me she was doing 'great' and telling me she 'didn't want me looking over her shoulder' all the time.
I had been concerned about the Lexapro, and called the doctor who prescribed it the night before she died. The doctor's nurse refused to allow me to bring her in, or even let my sister talk to the doctor, even though I begged her for just 5 minutes. I took her to our local hospital ER and they went over her for 2 hours, then called me in to tell me she just had a 'bad case of the what-if's' Less than 24 hours later, she was dead.
My life is shattered. Her abusive husband now has the children. It is also possible that he murdered her but we just don't know.

I pray that you continue to gain strength and your life takes a turn for the better. Hang in there. I appreciate you sharing your story with me and I applaud your strength and determination to help yourself.

Best wishes for a future filled with hope and happiness.
S.
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Old 01-01-2008, 03:59 PM
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Default Lexapro

I'm a 37 year old woman that came across your message board. I too, am a mother, of two, a 19 year old girl and an 11 year old boy. I have been a dedicated mother and wife for the past 20 years despite my depression. I was born with depression, therefore, I have had to deal with this horrible illness since I can remember. I have taken about every medication there is out there, nothing helps. All I continue to cause is pain on my family, they are tired of my illnesses and mood swings. I have decided they would be much better off, without me in the picture, my husband is still young and can remarry and be happy for once. My children are the only thing that hurts me to leave behind, but I know I am hurting them more than helping as a mother should. Therefore, I have been researching a good combination of medications to commit suicide. I am tired of living this painful life. As for the medications that I am currently on, they are Lexapro, Clonazepam, Wellbutrin XL and Restoril.

Sad Mother From Sacramento California
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:30 PM
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sgvivas,
I just checked back on this thread and found your post. I BEG YOU. PLEASE SEEk HELP. Your Doctor, a friend, a minster, a sister or brother, The Samaritans, anyone. Reach out and please accept any helping hand that is extended to you.
Please do not do what you are thinking of doing. I beg you.
I can tell you firsthand that those who love you will help you, and if you do the unthinkable, the lives you leave behind will be shattered, as mine has been shattered by the loss of my dear sister.
Please post back and tell me you are ok. please.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:28 PM
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Default Your Sister's Suicide

I can't speak to what happened to your sister - but I lost a brother to suicide many years ago, so I have an idea how much pain you are in. I just weaned myself off Lexapro a month ago. I'm experiencing more depression than before. I have grave doubts about anti-depressants and whether they really help or do they just give a false sense of happiness. I too had a similar experience with finding out about my husband's infidelities and asking him to leave. I'm in therapy and it is very helpful, but I have reservations about using drugs to get through emotional pain and whether those drugs only keep you from experiencing "reality" and can't change things in any permanent way. I am now determined to just ride out the pain and hope that with time and therapy I will find my way to a happier healthier life. My thoughts are with you.
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