Hi folks
I was addicted to 48 Nurofen Plus,
Ibuprofen+Codeine based pain killers per, day.
I use Poppy Seed Tea, now and it has cured my pain killer addiction.
I think it is the lesser of two evils, no Liver or Kidney failure, but it does contain
morphine.
Here is the info, I found online that led me to poppy Seed Tea.
Poppy Seed Maintenance
Poppies -
Opium & Various Herbs
by jacky
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DOSE : 150 mg oral Poppies - Opium
BODY WEIGHT : 170 lb
Over the past decade I have been habituated to opiates for most of the time. It began with pills, progressed to IV heroin, and finally seems to have settled with oral doses of poppy seeds.
After getting hooked on
oxycodone and
methadone once again, and riding the edge of blowing everything again, I learned of poppy seeds. This has had a significant effect on my lifestlye and health. The seeds of the opium plant are specifically exempted from any controls, and I have used this legal source of opioids to my seeming benefit. I started by grinding the seeds and making a tea from this soupy starchy oily mess. Graduating to a water and lime juice extraction that works much better by not grinding the seeds. I find the effects to be somewhat heavy, slightly uncomfortable at first, with a stimulant edge. Doses over 1 pound usually just bring on dysphoric effects, and I have been using around a cup's worth spread over 3 doses in a day. I have consumed the seeds for over a year straight, and during that time completeley quit using IV drugs. I have quit drinking and smoking cigarettes also. I feel that the poppy seeds support my ability to walk away from the majority of these substances in that they leave me content with minor analgesic/euphoric effects.
There is obviously a complicated blend of alkaloids in the seeds also, and I sometimes wonder if thebaine is contributing to the effects, as the beginning can be somewhat forceful and stimulating, and in the latter part turns heavy and sedating. UN data points to the possibility that thebaine is metabolized into morphine in vitro. I have also noticed that my tolerance doesn't progress unchecked, but seems to hang out in the 100-200 gram range.
One problem is getting different potency of seeds in different batches. I buy mine in ten pound lots, for around 1.25$ a pound, and I have noticed a large variation in potency. One batch was so potent that it was very very bitter, and caused dysphoric effects till I got my dose lowered, that lot lasted me almost a month and a half. I took the seeds to a recent conference as I didnt want to 'kick' before going on vacation. I took the seeds on carry-on, and also mailed some to my friend's house. I would just put the seeds in an empty juice bottle, fill with water, and just drink the seeds whole. This produced a milder high, that seemed drawn out, and also helped my bowel movements, which can become quite unregular when habituated to the seeds. The ease and seeming legality of transporting the seeds makes traveling on opiates alot less of a hassle than I used to experience.
There is a downside to this maintenance program of mine, chronic addiction can build up no matter what the opioid is, and I was reaching a point where I couldnt sleep longer than 3 hours at a time, and would suffer panic attacks that reminded me very much of the same reactions I had when strung out severely on heroin. I needed to cut my dose, and researched several herbs like bacopa, ashwaghanda, morinda citrifolia, chaste tree, salvia divinorum, pukatea and more for opiate action or interaction to help lower my seed dose without suffering withdrawal. I cut my dose by 2/3rds using a combination of these herbs and felt much much better.
I have slowly reduced my poppy seeds dose to around 25 grams of seeds, and amazingly I can still detect effects. Taking morinda citrifolia, ashwaghanda and bacopa daily has really helped, and I am really impressed with the potency of these herbs as potentiators for opiates. I plan to keep cutting my dose and getting off the seeds on a daily basis. The other herbs I take provide some support I believe for the opiate system. Some of them have scientific data that supports this belief, but the real deal is in consuming the plants. I have received very real opiate effects from consuming the suggested amounts of these herbs. ME and a friend were able to interrupt oxycodone habits at around a 100 milligrams a day using poppy seeds. If you would have told me 5 years ago what I have learned about using herbs to replace heroin I wouldnt have believed it. A certain weight has been lifted from my psyche in that I realize I now have access to legally support my opiate cravings, which in moderation I believe to be a healthy alternative to alcohol, IV drugs etc. I wonder how long these seeds will be continue to be sold in their present state?
A friend in portland claims seeds in that area are being treated somehow. When made into a tea he noticed no bitterness, very little particulate matter with just the lime juice coloring the water. He also noticed very little oil released, and NO effects. I hope this isnt a growing trend, and may just be an isolated misunderstanding. I have watched more and more reports on the internet surface on this subject and was amused to read of a US Marine's wife using the seeds to combat insomnia caused from worrying about her husband serving in Iraq.
Most people have no use for this information, or could really care less, but for me it provided an escape from expensive illegal opiate addiction. If you are strung out give poppy seeds a try, if not be very careful in your consumption as the seeds can bring about a moderate physical dependency rather quickly. I included my experience with the other herbs because they really help either intensify effects, or minimize or even abolish withdrawal in my body. I also use 50-100 milligrams of
tramadol daily when easing off of the seeds, this product can help alot also and is rather easy to get legally prescribed.
I will include this last experience with herbal blends and poppy seeds because it was one of the strongest inebriations I have experienced. I consumed my normal 100+ grams poppy seed dose at 6pm. I was at work and waited till I had 20 minutes left in my shift. I then took a blend of 50 mg 5-htp, 60 grms dark chocolate, methionine, protein enzyme digestant pills, schizandra, ashwaghanda. Shortly after I started feeling dizzy and somewhat nauseous, and worked extra hard to get out of work quickly. After getting off work I rode home on my bike. My arms seemd very long and far way, and my balance was ****ed. The analgesia in my hands was very strong, I could barely feel them! Riding my bike was difficult and I worried about attracting attention as I was now throwing up. I vomited all the way home and laid straight down. Once reclined I felt better and could enjoy the rather intense opiate effects without any further purging. I nodded in and out of consiousness, languishing in the novelty of experiencing heavy effects from a handful of legal substances that ran me no more than 5$. I was somewhat worried about stopping breathing and tried to stay awake a few more hours.
In the morning I had a definite opiate hangover and the knowledge of a 'new blend'. I think the 5-htp and the chocolate really added to the effect. Naloxone is perported to relieve chocolate craving, and cannabanoids have been proven to interact with pain sensation, and serotonin intensifies opiate effects, as do most antideppressants. I have not repeated this blend again, and would only bring it out on special occasions. I do remember at a conference a gentleman passing out information on chocolate, I shared this recipe with him and he said that schizandra specifically intensifies chocolates effects?
SO to wrap it up I have been very lucky to have lived out my reckless days of heroin addiction, and I owe it mostly to online information and the ethnobotanical 'movement''s sharing of information that turned me on to viable alternatives of inebriation. Thanks Alot!!
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=26640
I read all of these stories about people obtaining opiate-like highs from some sort of preparation of poppy seeds. Is such a thing really possible? I knew about the false positive the seeds can give on drug tests, but are they actually psychoactive?
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A: Yes, many poppy seeds that are sold in grocery stores are the seeds of P. somniferum, the opium poppy. These seeds contain small quantities of psychoactive opiates, primarily morphine. Some people make tea out of relatively large quantities of poppy seeds in order to get the effects of the morphine. Following are details about a poppy seed tea related death which provide more information about the quantities of opiates present in poppy seeds and the related potential dangers associated with the ingestion of such tea.
In November 2005, we were contacted by a woman who reported that her son died in 2003 after consuming poppy seed tea. She and her family created a web site (poppyseedtea.com or Erowid cache) with details about the death including the coroner's report, which identified the amount of morphine found in her son's blood and urine during autopsy, as well as lab analysis results of a similar batch of poppy seed tea. The coroner's report found 210 ng/mL morphine in her son's blood and 1880 ng/mL in urine.
In this case, the seeds were purchased in bulk at a natural foods grocery store. Between 2.5 and 3 pounds of seeds were soaked in warm water with the juice of three lemons, for an hour. It was then mixed with honey to make it drinkable. Two liters of tea were consumed, leading to death (we don't know how much total water was used with the 2.5-3 lbs of seeds).
Following his death, a similar batch of tea was made, following the same recipe. This batch was submitted for testing by the coroner. Lab testing results found that this tea contained 259 ug/ml morphine.
Codeine and
hydrocodone were also detected. According to these numbers, assuming the tea he ingested had the same morphine concentration as the tested batch, the 2 liters he consumed would have contained around 519 mg of morphine. This is a very high dose. Pharmaceutical morphine (hydrochloride salt) comes in tablets ranging from 10 to 60 mg.
The autopsy also found therapeutic levels (those associated with the ingestion of normal therapeutic doses) of a number of other chemicals including: desmethylsertraline, diphenhydramine, and
alprazolam...as well as low levels of
bupropion and delta-9-carboxy-THC. While none of these appear to be significantly related to his death, it can't be ruled out that they could have contributed in some way to it.
http://www.poppyseedtea.com/
Preparation
Tea may be prepared from either the seed pods or the seeds themselves; however, pods are preferable because they have a higher concentration of active alkaloids. When pods are unavailable the seeds may be used instead, but it is worth noting that their potency can vary greatly between batches depending upon the way in which they were prepared. Some users report that poppy seeds bought in bulk have a higher yield than small containers sold in supermarkets. There have been one or two notable cases where a fatal overdose has been caused by a stronger than normal batch of poppy seeds, so care should be taken. Stalks can also be used, but the alkaloid constant is much lower than in the poppy head so a much greater quantity of material is required.
Dried poppy pods must first be prepared such that they have a high surface area for efficient extraction to be possible. When reduced to small pieces, for example in a food blender, they form what is known as poppy straw. Poppy straw is steeped in hot but not boiling water, which has been slightly acidified. Commonly, vinegar or citric acid is used for the acidification. Boiling the mixture degrades the alkaloids and does not significantly increase their solubility so it should be avoided. After steeping for a few minutes, the mixture is strained and the brown liquid is set aside for consumption. A second or third extraction may optionally be performed with fresh water to extract the remaining alkaloids.
[edit] Consumption
The tea is drunk and its effects begin after about 30 minutes, lasting up to 8 hours. It is intensely bitter and the flavour may be improved by adding lemon juice, coffee, honey etc. Some juices, such as grapefruit juice may also inhibit histamine production, thus increasing the strength and duration of the opiate effects.
For convenience of consumption, the tea can be evaporated over a very low heat to make a thick, concentrated liquid or a completely dry powder. Some users recommend putting this material into gel caps to allow for dosage to be measured more carefully.
Although oral administration is the most common, dried poppy tea can also be snorted or smoked. However, many users report unpleasant side effects from these methods because of the non-active and potentially irritating substances, which are present in addition to the alkaloids. It should be noted that dried poppy tea is not the same as opium, as the former is made from the whole plant, whilst the latter is made from exuded latex alone. Some users bypass the tea altogether and simply add poppy straw to a foodstuff such as yogurt. This method is fairly effective at masking the taste, but may lead to more gastric discomfort than consuming tea or dried tea.
It is relatively easy to overdose with poppy tea as the recreational dose is not greatly below the dose at which side effects become unpleasant or dangerous. Experienced users take a modest initial dose followed by small amounts over an extended period of time, in order to titrate up to the desired level.
[edit] Effects
Effects vary widely depending on dosage (amount of poppy straw used, alkaloid content of poppies and the quality of extraction), on individual sensitivity and on any opiate tolerance which has built up. The effects are likened to
Percocet or Codeine and can last for up to 8 hours.
Poppy tea, like other opiates, is effective at dulling the sensation of pain. It can elicit in the user a feeling of calm, well-being and relaxation.
Side effects increase with dosage, and include sleepiness, lethargy, itching, slowed breathing and nausea. Nausea can be attributed to the presence of noscapine and is more common in first time or inexperienced users. At high doses, the side effects are dangerous and can cause death, typically through cessation of breathing or choking on vomit.
Frequent use will result in tolerance and dependence. Chemical dependency builds up after one to two weeks of daily usage, so it is generally recommended to not use poppy tea more frequently than once every few days. Frequent use followed by abrupt abstinance will give rise to withdrawal symptoms including leg and abdominal cramps, vomit, diarrhea, insomnia, cravings and anxiety. Physical symptoms of withdrawal usually fade after a number of weeks but cravings and psychological dependence may continue for longer.
[edit] Analysis of Poppy Seed Tea
Following an unfortunate case of fatal overdose in 2005, a sample of poppy Seed tea was sent for laboratory analysis. This individual used 3.5lbs of poppy seeds. The concentration of morphine in the tea was shown to be around 250 ug/ml and the amount of morphine which had been consumed by the individual was around 500 mg. This is about five times the lethal oral dose for an individual without opiate tolerance.[1] Note: tolerant users can consume much greater amounts without harm: studies in the early 1900's on heroin addicts showed that when given increased doses over time, patients were able to handle over 100 times the normal lethal dose.
[edit] Warnings
It is possible to overdose and die on poppy tea. Treatment, which must be prompt, includes the administration of an opiate antagonist such as naloxone or naltrexone.
In the event of an overdose, call emergency services immediately and do not leave the patient alone. Try to keep him/her awake and ensure that they do not stop breathing or choke on their vomit. Administer CPR if necessary.
Do not combine poppy tea with other CNS depressant drugs such as alcohol or benzodiazepines, as these can enhance the effects which slow down breathing. Similarly, it can be dangerous to combine poppy tea with stimulant drugs (e.g.
cocaine or
amphetamine) since these substances can mask the effects of the opiate until they wear off, at which point an overdose can occur.
As with any new substance, users are advised to start with a small quantity and gradually increase the dose. It is always advisable to have a sitter, i.e. a person who remains sober and who can act in the case of an emergency.
Poppy tea is a narcotic analgesic tea which is brewed from the dried parts of the Papaver somniferum plant. It has been consumed as long as the poppy has been cultivated for its psychoactive effects. Depictions both in Asian literature as well as in Western literature (such as in opium dens) abound. In some locales, preparation of tea may be preferred to opium as the latex of the plant (itself the primary component of opium) is illegal.
Poppy tea contains two groups of alkaloids: phenanthrenes (including morphine and codeine) and benzylisoquinolines (including papaverine). Of these, morphine is the most prevalent comprising 10%-16% of the total. Its effects derive from the fact that it binds to and activates ì-opioid receptors in the brain, spinal cord, stomach and intestine
Items needed:
A 1 or 2 litre bottle with lid. A teatowel, or a coffee filter, or a s**** of CLEAN material. A rubberband or some string. A large jar. Pasta sauce jars are good. A funnel. Just make one out of rolled up paper if you don't own one. Water, and or fruitjuice. (I find pineapple juice masks the taste well enough) And last but not least some poppy seeds.
Go down to the supermarket and buy a bag of normal black poppy seeds that you use in cooking. They should be located in the spices section. They sometimes come in jars or tins. You need to buy about 300g of seeds if you are making this for one person. Now you won't need an excuse for buying the seeds, they are perfectly legal. You may however encounter odd looks if you buy a kilo of seeds, if you want to buy a large ammount it's probably better to goto a wholesale market or go to a few shops to buy up big.
Ok, grab your funnel and stick it into the top of your clean bottle. Pour your seeds into the bottle carefully. I stress carefully as they get EVERYWHERE and are a nice lady to clean up

Now that the seeds are in the bottle pour about 350mls of warm tap water into the bottle. Or you could use juice. I use warm water as it washes the goodies off the seeds better. Now screw the cap back onto the bottle tightly and give it a shake for about 5 minutes. After shaking well, let the bottle sit for about 10 or 15 minutes. After letting it sit, shake again for about 5 minutes. Repeat this for about an hour, the longer the stronger

By this stage the seeds will look like a clumpy mess. If you feel the need to add more liquid do so, but remember that it tastes like **** and the more liquid, the more you have to drink. Now what I do is take the lid off and tie a piece of cloth around the bottle opening. Make sure it is secure and wont slip off. Last time I used a clean sock and it worked fine. Once the cloth is secured place the bottle upside down into the top of your jar. Hopefully the bottle will balance well in the top, if not just lean it against a wall or something. Now let it filter through the cloth. This will take a while so give the bottle a good squeeze every now and then to help it along. When you have gotten the most liquid out of the bottle that way remove the bottle from the jar. You'll be left with this disgusting slurry. That's the tea. Now there's liquid left in the seeds. To get it out you have to pour the seeds into a piece of cloth, or in my case a sock. Squeeze like there's no tomorrow either over the jar, or over a bowl and it will get the rest of the tea out. Once you have done this mix the tea with some juice and slam it down. Just remember it does taste like ****, I find drinking it with super cold juice makes it easy to throw down. I had some with orange juice last night and it tasted a little earthy but masked the flavour rather well. I also find pineapple juice to be an awesome way to mask it.
Now drink and enjoy the 'pain relief' or getting pinned!
Question and Answer time kiddies!
Q: How does this work?
A: The poppy seeds used in cooking (think bagels) are Papaver Somniferum (opium poppy) seeds. The same seeds can be used to grow poppies to produce opium, morphine, and even heroin if you wish to goto jail for many years.
Q: Don't they treat the seeds to make them drug free?
A: The only thing they do to the seeds is wash them. This washes some of the opiate away from it but they can't wash it all off. They also sterilize the seeds so they won't grow. But if you do want to grow some of the poppies yourself just scatter about 100g of seed. Not all become sterile from the process.
Q: What is in the seeds to give this effect?
A: The main active alkaloid is morphine. But there are a whole host of other alkaloids in the mix too. Codiene, noscapine, papaverine, and thebaine.
Q: Are there any risks involved with drinking poppy seed 'tea'?
A: As with any opiate there are risks. These include nausea, addiciton, risk of overdose, and death. Common sense is needed when doing this. Don't attempt to use this if you are allergic to opiates of ANY type. And don't drive machinery of any kind either.
Q: Will this feel like pure morphine?
A: Not completely the same, due to the other alkaloids being present. I live in Australia and we grow and export poppy based drugs commercially to drug companies around ther world. To hinder people from raiding the poppy fields at night the companies that farm poppies have developed a strain that is high in alkaloids that cause sickness and not so pleasant side effects. The majority of the seed available in Australia comes from these strains so some unpleasant side effects will be noticeable with high doses.
Q: Which brand of seeds is the best to buy or the strongest?
A: Brands mean nothing really. The strength is dependant on the actual plant itself. So one week Farmer Joe Brand seeds may be really potent, but the next week they will be much weaker. You can't really tell. But a trick is to buy a brand that has alot of stem/stalk, and random bits of pod in it.
Be safe and have fun! Remember to go easy if you are not experienced in opiate use, drink half, wait for an hour or so, then drink the other half. People have died from this.
elizabeth