is fioricet indicated in patients with cluster headaches? what narcotics are?
Cluster headaches?
- Posted:
- 18 Aug 2010 by tammi0119
- Topics:
- fioricet, headache, cluster headaches
Answers (4)
18 Aug 2010
Hello,
Fioriciet (acetaminophen) is a pain reliever and fever reducer.
Butalbital is in a group of drugs called barbiturates. It relaxes muscle contractions involved in a tension headache.
Caffeine is a central nervous system stimulant. It relaxes muscle contractions in blood vessels to improve blood flow.
The combination of acetaminophen, butalbital, and caffeine is used to treat tension headaches that are caused by muscle contractions.
Cluster headaches
Over-the-counter pain medications (such as aspirin, paracetamol, and ibuprofen) typically have no effect on the pain from a cluster headache. Unlike other headaches such as migraines and tension headaches, cluster headaches do not respond to biofeedback.
7 Nov 2010
road2glory was right on. It is no secret that the single most effective, safe, and reliable abortive treatment of cluster headaches (as a CH is just beginning) is oxygen. Best estimates are that over 80% of sufferers can abort an oncoming CH within 30 seconds to 15 minutes when O2 is administered at 8-15 liters/minute using an appropriate mask. [Standard hospital masks or cannulas dilute the O2 too much to be consistently effective.] Though not 100% safe for everyone, pure oxygen is far safer than any other effective CH treatment.
No, I don't believe there's any conspiracies here. The pharmaceutical companies shouldn't be expected to advertise products that aren't theirs, and drug stores don't have the space or interest in producing, storing, and delivering oxygen. I just don't think it lends itself to normal retail channels which has contributed to its obscurity, though as you mention, there's so few clusterheads anyway, we don't make up much of a market.
Oh, and one more thing. Clusterheads, get a good loud kitchen timer to set so you won't fall asleep and suck down an entire tank, which we've all done but I'm told is not good for your lungs.
thank you very much! i finally got my neurologist to prescribe oxygen... unfortunately, it arrived two days after my headaches FINALLY went away... but that's ok because i know they'll be back in january or february. thank you everyone for responding... at least i know that there are many more cluster sufferers who know exactly what i'm going through! you know, i was finally able to quantify to my husband what a cluster headache might be like... NOT having a cluster headache is better than HAVING an orgasm... thanks again, everyone!
Pardon my disagreement with this advice. I have seen no convincing that Fioricet would be an effective--or appropriate--treatment for cluster headaches. The physiological processes involved are very different than those for tension headaches, for which fioricet is indeed indicated. Searches of authoritative sites (e.g., National Institutes of Medicine, Mayo Clinic, headaches.com, clusterheadaches.com) find no support for using Fioricet. Indeed, because of the frequency of cluster headaches (1-8 or more each day, for a period of weeks or months), it would require extended use--not a good thing, since dependency may result--even if it were effective.
i apprecite correction, but on this i need more than a voice, since something temporal is acceptable and i think i stated that clearly... for caffeine you didnt comment but it works especially on combination with ergortamine..we call it cafergot.
12 Oct 2011
Im a cluster headache sufferer. I've been dealing with this for 15 years now and have yet to get any relief from any drug they have givin me. The only treatment that help was 100% pure oxigen, and what the doctors psovide to put me to sleep. I've been to the emergency room numeruos of times, and the oxigen made me dizzy but it helped. So for all of you that keep posting your remedies for this, fioricet does not work.
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Oddly, this very comprehensive post missed the single most effective and cheapest remedy for a cluster attack -- oxygen. I have knocked out hundreds, maybe thousands of cluster attacks with this wonder drug which has no bad side effects and costs me around $7.50 a tank delivered to my door. Once I feel an attack coming on I wheel out an E-tank with mask, start inhaling and the attack disappears without a trace in between 4 minutes and 11 minutes. I don't bother with Imitrex anymore. Sometimes I use ice, but there's hardly time for it. Surveys on the clusterhead web site indicate the majority of clusterheads obtain relief from oxygen.
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The reason we hear very little about it's use in aborting cluster attacks is there's no patent covering it, anyone can make it with a concentrator, it doesn't advertise in medical journals, pharmacies don't bother with it,and it's distribution is all mom and pop so no corporations are involved. So get a tank and try it. Migraineurs should try it too, but mainly it works for clusterheads. You'll need a prescription and your doctor should be able to turn you onto a provider.
In addition to oxygen I use 1200mg lithium and 320mg Verapamil to prevent them. I've gone from a thousand a year to 5 or 6 very mild clusters a year. The meds still seem to be playing a role. When I get sloppy taking them the result can be an attack that can still bring an attack on and I suspect the lithium is the more critical of the two.
Good luck to all my fellow clusterheads
maso,
Great info.
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OLO SL.-
oh yes you got it almost right, but we dont use narcotics in doses that are that bad, when it is medically prescribed we have morphine that works wonders, diacetylmorphine that is equally good... but never for CHS since their kind of somatic pain relief is not long term... wears of and people have a tendency to habituation.