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went through rapid detox tuesday. any q's
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    yeah, i done regular rehab. quit cold turkey. I have been clean a few times only to relapse weeks, months later.
    well this time it rocked my wallet for $11,000. Im certainly not gonna say im cured, but i do know when i look an opiate pill, i dont think about how it cost 2 bucks or whatever. I know that will be the most expensive pill ever.
    Anyway, I havent seen to many post on the subject so if u have any questions, let me know.
    Good luck everyone

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    What is rapid detox?

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    How did you feel right after your procedure? I've read up on a few different places that perform the rapid detox. I had considered going to the one in Chicago...but, I chickened out. I was afraid I wouldn't come out of it. Good for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mom23boyz View Post
    What is rapid detox?
    Rapid detox is a procedure where you are put to sleep while the drugs get out of your system.

    Rapid detox patients placed under anesthesia while given treatment drugs, such as naltrexone, can avoid the extreme pain associated with such treatments, say proponents, and bypass the major effects of withdrawal.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_de...Detoxification

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnataAnimus View Post
    Rapid detox is a procedure where you are put to sleep while the drugs get out of your system.

    Rapid detox patients placed under anesthesia while given treatment drugs, such as naltrexone, can avoid the extreme pain associated with such treatments, say proponents, and bypass the major effects of withdrawal.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_de...Detoxification




    I'm for anything that works. IF you research the results of rapid detox programs such as the Waismann Method you'll find it very expensive and it also has a very high relapse ratio. That is a fact!

    The highest success ratio I've seen in the years I've been involved in this process is with buprenorphine when administered with small doses of 4mg or less at induction and with a total therapy time including titration down of no more than ten weeks.

    I'll put my house up as collateral (and it's paid for in full) if anyone wants to pay me $11,000.00 to get clean that I can have you totally clean and feeling great if you'll follow my instructions to the letter. And we'll be done in 8-10 weeks with relatively little discomfort. I'm on for all takers. God bless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom23boyz View Post
    What is rapid detox?
    Oh I was just answering the question Robert. I am not saying to do it or not do it. Sorry if there was a misunderstanding.

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    I'm not for or against any particular treatment if it works. However, I was addicted to methadone on a program and saw several people I knew on meth go to Weismann only to come out of it sicker than death - only to end up back on methadone almost immediately. I suppose it does work better for those addicted to short acting opiates. Also, as Robert said, it's ridiculously expensive for something not guaranteed.

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    Okay, one thing that i have learned since becoming addicted to opiates is that almost every story is different. Whether its the amount, the drugs, your tolerance. Very rarely do u see two people with the exact same stories on here. So this my story and if it helps you, then im not wasting my time.
    About 4 years ago, i started taking 7.5 lortabs to get high.
    About 2 years ago, i started taking 3 mg of xanax a day.
    Xanax may be the worst drug in the world to get off of. Anyone trying to get off those, i would seriuosly think about using other drugs along with anti-seizure pills to come off it.
    I feel so lucky that i wasnt taking them too long, so i was still able to function with just my tabs and somas.
    As of two weeks ago, i bought 180 10mg tabs, had a script for 120 more, plus 60 somas, and 200 60mg xr morphine pills that wouldnt get me high but would get me through the time i didnt have lortabs. I was averaging about 400 mgs a day.
    On sunday i called a dr yee in las vegas. I meet with him on tues. they rushed some bloodwork on my kidneys and liver. I had the procedure tues at 11am.
    Now dr yee uses a similar procedure as weismann, but dr yee puts you out for 8 hours instead of one or two.
    Anyway, the first night i slept good. They actually asked me if i wanted some ambien to sleep. I was like no u dumb f.
    Day 2 was still just pretty tired, but zero withdrawels.
    Its day 5 now, im getting my energy back and feeling pretty good.
    Please know that im not new at this. I know quitting is the easy part. Never doing it again is the hard part.
    But for me and my story, it really really helped with the withdrawals.
    Now, the hard part.
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    dizzynikki ...... I am all for you, but you are right, this is the hard part you are facing now. Remember that the relapse rate is about 80% coming out of rapid detox. Those are bad odds so you have to really be vigilant. Good luck to you. God bless.
    I am not a dr. My statements are based on years of experience and related education. Consult with the professional of your choice regarding matters of concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzynikki View Post
    Okay, one thing that i have learned since becoming addicted to opiates is that almost every story is different. Whether its the amount, the drugs, your tolerance. Very rarely do u see two people with the exact same stories on here. So this my story and if it helps you, then im not wasting my time.
    About 4 years ago, i started taking 7.5 lortabs to get high.
    About 2 years ago, i started taking 3 mg of xanax a day.
    Xanax may be the worst drug in the world to get off of. Anyone trying to get off those, i would seriuosly think about using other drugs along with anti-seizure pills to come off it.
    I feel so lucky that i wasnt taking them too long, so i was still able to function with just my tabs and somas.
    As of two weeks ago, i bought 180 10mg tabs, had a script for 120 more, plus 60 somas, and 200 60mg xr morphine pills that wouldnt get me high but would get me through the time i didnt have lortabs. I was averaging about 400 mgs a day.
    On sunday i called a dr yee in las vegas. I meet with him on tues. they rushed some bloodwork on my kidneys and liver. I had the procedure tues at 11am.
    Now dr yee uses a similar procedure as weismann, but dr yee puts you out for 8 hours instead of one or two.
    Anyway, the first night i slept good. They actually asked me if i wanted some ambien to sleep. I was like no u dumb f.
    Day 2 was still just pretty tired, but zero withdrawels.
    Its day 5 now, im getting my energy back and feeling pretty good.
    Please know that im not new at this. I know quitting is the easy part. Never doing it again is the hard part.
    But for me and my story, it really really helped with the withdrawals.
    Now, the hard part.
    WOW, thats crazy! Just be strong my friend! How much did that cost?
    We CAN and WILL do this!!!!! Have faith and stay strong

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsac6060 View Post
    WOW, thats crazy! Just be strong my friend! How much did that cost?
    They charge from 10 -$15000!!! Pretty costly when it has an 80% relapse ratio. Wish someone would pay me $10K to get them clean!
    I am not a dr. My statements are based on years of experience and related education. Consult with the professional of your choice regarding matters of concern.

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    Robert you'd be rich lol.....thats insane!!!!! Im not even considering that. id rather man up and get through it. PPl relapse bc they think, okay that wasnt so bad, I can do it again!!! DUH WRONG
    We CAN and WILL do this!!!!! Have faith and stay strong

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    I just went through the rapid detox procedure. They did a very good job. I had the procedure this past Wednesday. They give you some medicine or help you after the procedure. I was put on suboxone for migraines. I went to MDS in Michigan they were awesome I have the doctors cellphone number. It's my third day and I am eating normal food. Would definitely recommend it because they are not in it for the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgolfdude View Post
    I just went through the rapid detox procedure. They did a very good job. I had the procedure this past Wednesday. They give you some medicine or help you after the procedure. I was put on suboxone for migraines. I went to MDS in Michigan they were awesome I have the doctors cellphone number. It's my third day and I am eating normal food. Would definitely recommend it because they are not in it for the money
    Hey I have a question how did u feel when u woke up?? Also how long did they have u under??? I'm so scared I go into tomorrow I'm also getting the implant where I can't do em if I wanted... I'm going to the Michigan one also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgolfdude View Post
    I just went through the rapid detox procedure. They did a very good job. I had the procedure this past Wednesday. They give you some medicine or help you after the procedure. I was put on suboxone for migraines. I went to MDS in Michigan they were awesome I have the doctors cellphone number. It's my third day and I am eating normal food. Would definitely recommend it because they are not in it for the money
    They give you medicine after the procedure, you were put on suboxone?

    This was before of after the procedure that they gave you subs for your headaches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert_325 View Post
    They charge from 10 -$15000!!! Pretty costly when it has an 80% relapse ratio. Wish someone would pay me $10K to get them clean!
    Lol why do you keep mentioning that 80 percent of people relapse who get clean this way. At least 80 percent of people who get clean off of opiates in general relapse . it is a lot of money but if you somehow manage to have that much money and are an addict it's not the worst thing to spend your money on.

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    All,

    In my many attempts to get off of opiates, I too, completed the Rapid Detox. I flew to LA and went thru this rather horrific experience. This was NOT a good experience, nor a successful one. Just a very expensive detox. Not worth the money in my opinion. I can provide more details to anybody who is considering it.

    Forward and Onward Troops!

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    I'm supposed to be going to Michigan on Monday for the procedure but somebody had mentioned the one in Vegas does anybody recommend this has anybody done it and relapse does anybody have any information at all that will help me make my decision whether I should do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlo1113 View Post
    I'm supposed to be going to Michigan on Monday for the procedure but somebody had mentioned the one in Vegas does anybody recommend this has anybody done it and relapse does anybody have any information at all that will help me make my decision whether I should do it
    I went through rapid detox in Florida in 2009, after ten years as a pill head and twelve years as a high dose methadone user. I was put on Suboxone (still on it) and adderall (still on it). I'm not sure I'd be called a success story, but I am better now than before the procedure.
    Nevertheless, staying on Suboxone for life isn't the best option. So, if your detox comprises buprenorphine, be careful to adhere to a taper plan and get off as soon as possible.

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    I almost sprung for rapid detox, but was informed by my MD his previous referrals didn't all work out. I'm just dealing with it right now, normal detox. Not sure the $10k to avoid a week would have solved things. Either way, the hard part now is not to do it again. I've thought I could handle it again previously, but have repeatedly acted against my best interest. I don't want to relapse. I love that people have tried rapid detox though, regardless of outcomes. Any step in a better direction, keep it up. Peace!

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    Very interesting method, it must be the combo of the anesthesia and nalaxone....I can see it helping abit, but I don't know if it's enough to get you through heavy withdrawls if you were taking alot of drugs lol maybe cause the anesthesia wears off within 24 hours so your not feeling anything and the nalaxone is kicking off everything on receptors. Very expensive proceed with caution Id say! Subs with short terms taper might be best; atleast your not blowing through 10-15K and have an "80%" chance at relapsing! God Bless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springer10 View Post
    I went through rapid detox in Florida in 2009, after ten years as a pill head and twelve years as a high dose methadone user. I was put on Suboxone (still on it) and adderall (still on it). I'm not sure I'd be called a success story, but I am better now than before the procedure.
    Nevertheless, staying on Suboxone for life isn't the best option. So, if your detox comprises buprenorphine, be careful to adhere to a taper plan and get off as soon as possible.
    Dang, did you go on suboxone right after the rapid detox, or did you relapse after the rapid detox and then sometime later ended up on suboxone?

    Would not recommend a rapid detox straight into suboxone for anyone.... Suboxone will stop the WD symptoms after just 24 hours of no opiate use.... so why pay 10-15K for 24 hours of relief? I'm guessing that wasn't the route you went and that some time had passed after a relapse... but just wanted to throw my 2 cents in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzynikki View Post
    yeah, i done regular rehab. quit cold turkey. I have been clean a few times only to relapse weeks, months later.
    well this time it rocked my wallet for $11,000. Im certainly not gonna say im cured, but i do know when i look an opiate pill, i dont think about how it cost 2 bucks or whatever. I know that will be the most expensive pill ever.
    Anyway, I havent seen to many post on the subject so if u have any questions, let me know.
    Good luck everyone
    How is it going? Are you still clean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsh12345 View Post
    Dang, did you go on suboxone right after the rapid detox, or did you relapse after the rapid detox and then sometime later ended up on suboxone?

    Would not recommend a rapid detox straight into suboxone for anyone.... Suboxone will stop the WD symptoms after just 24 hours of no opiate use.... so why pay 10-15K for 24 hours of relief? I'm guessing that wasn't the route you went and that some time had passed after a relapse... but just wanted to throw my 2 cents in.
    Have you ever gone through Suboxen withdrawl? I did. It was the ABSOLUTE WORST HELL ON EARTH. Suboxen is the devil man. It is the worst substance on earth. Currently doing a taper of Methadone. From 115 to now at 16mg a day. At a rate of 2mgs every 3 days. Wasnt bad until I hit 50. I stopped the detox a couple of times for a week or two, but started again. So anxious to get out of that damn clinic. Wish I could just stop now. But Ive read Methadone withdrawl is pretty bad, even at 16mg. Im just tired of all of it and wanna not be that guy anymore. Good luck with the suboxen, hope it works for you. Everyone is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kvn1175 View Post
    Have you ever gone through Suboxen withdrawl? I did. It was the ABSOLUTE WORST HELL ON EARTH. Suboxen is the devil man. It is the worst substance on earth. Currently doing a taper of Methadone. From 115 to now at 16mg a day. At a rate of 2mgs every 3 days. Wasnt bad until I hit 50. I stopped the detox a couple of times for a week or two, but started again. So anxious to get out of that damn clinic. Wish I could just stop now. But Ive read Methadone withdrawl is pretty bad, even at 16mg. Im just tired of all of it and wanna not be that guy anymore. Good luck with the suboxen, hope it works for you. Everyone is different.
    Hey kvn, sorry to hear about what your going through! It will all pass in time friend. Suboxone on the contrary is not the devil or bad. Everyone's experience is 100% different, even if they sound alike. For every persons opinion on subs, there is a pound for pound opinion on methadone. Some say methadone is the devil, while some preach how it saved their life. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but some prefer subs over methadone or vice versa.

    Primary example; you go to the methadone clinic every day right? You are on a certain dose daily right? Well so is someone on subs. If you jump; you might suffer, if they jump they might suffer as well. But what happened if you followed protocols or a taper plan by your sub md, forum help, advice, robert plan, etc....and so did the other person and tapered down to lowest dose possible or even zero? Would they be coming off subs or methadone and considering themselves a horror story? Some people do tend to experience problems because they did not use them correctly, what you failed mention is, for the amount of horror stories, there's alot more success stories. Some people opt to share their journey and success, while others with success do not or have not. If subs are not used or followed properly, they can and will cause you to go through what you did.

    There are many protocols and plans available from experts, vets, and members here who have had alot of success. While everyone is wired differently its better to have a positive approach and to stay that way as mentioning how subs dont work or do bad things to you, doesn't help others here who are willing to give it a try as a means of being clean. Good luck on whatever path you take, I wish you nothing but the best and success on your path to recovery and journey to clean. Good luck and keep posting on your progress it really helps and becomes therapeutic
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    Quote Originally Posted by kvn1175 View Post
    Have you ever gone through Suboxen withdrawl? I did. It was the ABSOLUTE WORST HELL ON EARTH. Suboxen is the devil man. It is the worst substance on earth. Currently doing a taper of Methadone. From 115 to now at 16mg a day. At a rate of 2mgs every 3 days. Wasnt bad until I hit 50. I stopped the detox a couple of times for a week or two, but started again. So anxious to get out of that damn clinic. Wish I could just stop now. But Ive read Methadone withdrawl is pretty bad, even at 16mg. Im just tired of all of it and wanna not be that guy anymore. Good luck with the suboxen, hope it works for you. Everyone is different.
    You must of had a really bad experience with suboxone?
    If suboxone is used correctly and tapered correctly it is an amazing tool to get clean! Suboxone is so much easier and quicker to taper down from than methadone. If you jump from a high amount of sub you will suffer immensely, if you jump from a high amount of methadone you will suffer immensely! I'm pretty certain that most people would say that methadone is much worse than subs, they don't call methadone "Liquid Handcuffs" for nothing!
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