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Okay let's see, where to start..... In may I had a tumor removed and I had some rare complications that don't happen very often but cause severe pain (the tumor was just below my ear right at the jaw) I was put on oxycodone taking them as directed which was 2-7.5/500 pills 3-4 times a day, mainly right before I ate because eating was extremely painful. I was taking them for about 3 months. I had watched part of some show on the Discovery channel about how addicting these things can be and the lengths someone will go to once hooked.
They say that after taking them for 7 straight days that you start becoming physically depend on them. So i was pretty much screwed since I had been taking them for months. I DID NOT want to become massively addicted to these to the point were I was taking them all the time or just because I felt like it.
So last Wednesday I decided to stop taking them. Mentally I was fine but, physically by Thursday evening I was crawling out of my skin and pretty much felt like I was going to die. I went to my doctor on Friday to see if he had any suggestions and to inform him I wasn't going to take the oxycodones anymore. He wrote me a prescription for hydrocodone for the length of time it is generally assumed oxycodones withdrawals last (5 days). Today is the last day I will be taking them and I wanted to know if anyone could tell me if I am going to have withdrawals from the hydrocodone. I was directed to take 2-7.5/500 pills anytime I had trouble with withdrawals or had trouble eating.
I'm curious about this cause from everything I have read they are pretty similar painkillers and it makes absolutely no sense to me for him to put me on something that is going to cause the same thing.
If anyone can help me out with this it would be greaty appreciated, right now I am just thoroughly confused. Thank you so much ahead of time.
Originally Posted by circles
Very, very strange your doctor put you on hydrocodone. Its pretty much the same exactly pill but a little bit less stronger. That makes no sense to me, maybe you should seek a new doctor. Your smart, you realized using these pills could lead you down a very dark place and you want out. If you can deal with OTC pain relief you should do that and just stop the pills. There are so many stories on here(including mine) that will tell you how awful the addiction is to these pills. Get off this crazy rollercoaster ride now while you can. I have been having a hard time getting off no matter how bad I want it. So please keep posting how you feel, etc. People will start replying to you and helping you as soon as they see it.
Hey Angela, I have been takeing 15 to 20 mg/ daily hydrocodone since 2005. I have always tried to stop Cold turkey and failed as The withdraw is too hard for me . I am currenty doing a very slow and gradual taper to get off. I am hopeing to go down so gradual that I wont feel the withdrawal or at least not nearly as bad. It is a good idea to get off of these pain pills unless your in such pain as there is no choice. You can read my post and maybe it will work for you. I am Flatsman444 . Im sure you can do this if your really ready. But I dont know what your pain level is. Good luck.
I forgot to tell you Angela, my thread is titled Cold Turkey Hydrocodone. I am Flatsman444. I am thinking it might be helpful to you to read.
Thank you all for your help!! I will keep you updated with how this goes, I should have a better idea tomorrow. What my doctor had told me was that since I would only be taking the hydrocodone for 5 days that I wouldn't have a physical addiction to it and like I said the whole thing doesn't make much sense to me but I guess we will see if I need to find myself a new doctor by tomorrow night. And thanks flatsman I read your thread and it did give me a lot of insight
No, he seems like a quack to me... They are BOTH opiates. An addiction to Hydrocodone IS an addiction to Oxycodone, and vice versa. What he is saying makes no sense to me.
While I wish the best of you, I really think you need to confront this doctor and ask him to explain his reasoning EXACTLY to you. Then post his response on here. I could be completely missing something, and I am not a doctor, but it doesn't sound right to me.
But you're a strong person for realizing the possibility of a problem so early, and taking proactive steps to avoid more trouble down the road. Not all of us were able to do that, so you should be proud.
Keep posting, and keep us updated. We're all here for you, and you're in my prayers.
Circles--your doctor is uninformed. S/he doesn't know how to treat opiate dependence. Look for a pain management or addiction doctor--someone who knows what opiate dependence is. It doesn't seem right that a doctor who put you ON a drug doesn't know how to take you OFF. But that's the situation. I'd go to an addiction specialist for a plan to get off. You've got good instincts.
Well it's official...I will be most definately be finding a new doctor. I would of updated sooner but I was at the point where I couldn't focus on anything besides how I was feeling, I feel worse now than I did last week. And what REALLY pisses me off is that if I would of just gone with my instinct instead of listening to the supposed professional I would be pretty much done with the withdrawals from the oxycodone by now, past the hard part at least. It seems as if I am going to be starting from square one again. What I don't get is why I feel so much worse now than I did last week....is that normal? Any thoughts on how to get past this would be greatly appreciated thanks
Last edited by circles; 08-02-2011 at 08:03 PM.
Originally Posted by circles
Sorry your not feeling very good. The only way to get past it, is to tackle it head on. There are really no short cuts to take. It will be an uncomfortable few days, thats all you have to know. Your going to feel like you have the flu for several days then it will be over. You've gotten the cold/flu before right? Think of it as the same thing. Just remember to not go back to using these pills unless its your last resort. I feel the withdrawals now no matter how far apart i use, its ridiculous. You could say I was cheating because I would take suboxone(a pill that helps with cravings and withdrawals) after i stopped using but I was only delaying the inevitable. Hang in there, your obviously a smart and strong women. You got this and were all here for you. Times been flying by anyways, before you know it, it will be next tuesday!
Just for a second, and I mean only a second....let's give this doctor the benefit of the doubt (not too sure about that, but I'll do it anyway because I'm also the optimist). Do you think it's possible that this is his/her way of weaning you? How many did he/she give you (I'm sure you mentioned it above but it's only 6 am and I've only been up for about 1/2 hr and way too lazy to scroll back up). Is it possible that your doc is decreasing the strength of your painkiller and then will wean you off from the "lesser of all evils"? Oxycodone then hydrocodone then maybe Tylenol3? Don't know. I had often thought of that route myself but wouldn't have worked because I'm just a 'lil piggy and would gobble em all down anyway.
In the end, I just bit the bullet (every time and it was many) to just get sick for 5 days and get it over with. You haven't been taking for that long and you're smart enough to have recognized the problem you are creating. Your withdrawal probably won't be as intense as it could be with longer use but you're still apt to feel it. Often the mental part of it can be worse than the physical. As someone (SS?) above said, we've all had the flu and we survived. This will just feel like the flu and is apt to last around 5 days with days 3 and 4 being the worst of it. Instead of more pain pill, your doc should have given you 5 or 6 valium or similar to help you sleep on the nights you are detoxing. If you go back to the same doctor, suggest that. If you find a new one, ask about just a few to help you thru the nights. The sweats, rls and the rest I was always able to fight thru. The trouble sleeping is what was the hardest. Many, many times I did cold turkey (how proud am I?). I lived through it. It was the aftermath that sent me into relapse. That was because I was a long term user and had to re-learn coping skills. You've only "lost" three months and you see the problem already. No sweat. I lost almost 20 yrs! Eighteen months clean and I still have lots of learning to do.
You have the desire. That's all you need. Detox? You got this one!
After having bi-lateral mastectomy with reconstruction on August 31, I was prescribed Oxycodone for the pain. Dr only allowed me to be on it for one month. I don't remember the mg, but he then prescribed hydrocodone, 5 mg/325 mg tablets. As the pain lessened, I slowed down taking the pills. I experienced hot flashes, flu like symptoms, and stomach cramps with nausea. I just assumed it was something I ate. I am now taking chemo so I have been prescribed Prochlorparzine for nausea. I'd take one of these to stop stomach cramping.and the nausea. Now I think the stomach cramps was from withdrawal of hydrocodone. The past 2 nights, I've not slept well. After 2 hours of sleep, I wake suddenly. My arms feel like something is crawling inside. I shake them. I feel like I'm having a panic attack. I have insomnia, restless and sneezed all day today. I assumed I am catching a cold. Are these seriously withdrawal symptoms?? I plan to call my Dr. I do not want to take any other prescriptions unless its a sleeping pill. Although, 2 nights ago I took a lunesta & I STILL woke up after 2 hours of sleep with all those lousy symptoms! So I'm on night 2 of withdrawals.
Im with Cat and giving the doctor the benefit of the doubt. I myself jumped off a high dose of fentanyl and since i was taking for pain and not a high, my doctor had a good plan for tapering me. I was already too far into it to take that way tho.
My daughter had a 2 month stint in surgical ICU, flat lined 3x and came home on some major pain killers. She was tapered by her doctor, was able to continue her schooling and raising her three kids.
Like Cat said, if you are an addict.......tapering is hard. There are cases however where tapering is a great alternative.
Good luck to all!
I had a lateral mastectomy one and a half years ago. My doctor tapered me down, like yours. I then slowly tapered off the hydro with no problems. Check with your doctor. Not sure what is caused by the chemo, or what's caused by hydro. You need your sleep! Maybe you weaned too quickly?
Originally Posted by Ymecancer
Best of luck!
I'm noticing these are really old but I'm new here and desperate for someone out there to talk to me.ill even go somewhere else another site or whatever. But everyone gives their stories so here's mine as simplified as possible. I am a 39 year old mother of 3. I hurt my back real bad when I was 25 but put off pain medication until 28 just because I didn't see that as a smart solution with being a hairdresser i have seen so many ppl who tell me they just either got addicted or turned to higher and stronger medicine to chase the pain
Let's skip to when these little devils came into my life and took up residence permanently. When I grew tired of physical therapy and expensive alternative to medication and my stomach was so screwed up from OTC meds. I started like most 2 a day of 5/325 hydrocodone which worked but years later in pain management on 3x a day of both 10/325 percocet and 3x a day 15 mg ms contin. But I found a pain specialist in my area of Alaska that started me on injection in my spine I found out I was pregnant and with my youngest of 2 boys gone to college this year to say I was rusty and frightened is an understatement.
I weaned of by March if last year my ms contin at the suggestion of my obgyn for my baby to have an easier go. I did it but was so hard . Then two months later my Dr put.me back on both meds AGAIN with starting injection all over too.
I got ambitious and moved to east coast with babies father . Planned on being off meds and just happy from injection. Hurt my knee while here . Was going to get checked out get well from that then withdrawal like when I was pregnant. But thanks to all the new awareness on pain medication and >>>>>> epidemic. To get medication here in PA well let's just say I decided to just go ahead with my original plan of putting the bullet.
But let me tell ya. Between having an what I think is a hyperextended knee? A new little 3 month old baby I gave up on my withdrawal 4 days ago (Thursday) that started officially Monday night off m contin which BTW the percocets have not been taken for 2 weeks now. I just couldn't do the ms contin withdrawal after almost 3 days with my knee and baby and alllllll the horrible horrible things like crawling skin hot flashes really bad abdominal cramps ect ect . I gave in and took really old hydrocodone 5/325mg for 3 days . I never really got all better and only felt weak and crazy and low so I'm just going to do this .i figured even if a dr. Here says I need something for my knee if I get these ms contin out of my system the less will work and of course my brain is also saying maybe just nothing ever again if I make it through
But I just would love to find moral support and advice from someone who gone through this. And the whole thinking of what is actually good for pain management dr. Just don't seem to care what works and don't work for everyone? Will this worse since screwing up and taking hydrocodone or be a little more mild with ms contin being almost out of my system