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Accurate Suboxone Half-life information
Accurate Suboxone Half-life information
I have been looking online for over 3 days now on an accurate answer about the half life of suboxone.. I have read 24 hours, 24-48 hours, 37 hours, and 24-72 hours.. I have also seen things stating people could not get high for nearly half a month after being on a regular dose of suboxone for some time. I have been taking the suboxone for 10 days now.. I started at 6mgs a day, then the next day did 8mgs a day and continued that regiment for 4 more days.. then coming back down to 6mgs for 2 days, then 4mgs for 2 days, and finally 2mgs the last day. Now my question is the half life of Suboxone the length of time you cannot abuse any other opiate and have an effect.. or is that just how long it is in your body (not your opiate receptors) and it is possible you will not be able to abuse the opiates for even longer? I do not need a bunch of posts with people telling me not to relapse and not to take the chance please, I need accurate information only. Does anyone know an accurate time on how long one should wait to begin taking opiates and be able to feel them after taking this regiment of Suboxone? Please fill me in on your own experiences or accurate medical information. Thank you.
opiate do work
Hey i have been on suboxone for about 4 months now and have relapsed about 4 times or so. You can use on suboxone it just takes a lot more to get high. if you miss a day of suboxone then use you can feel the high more and after not using suboxone for about 3 days straight its like taking >>>>>> before you started the treatment.
No one can tell you what to do you can only learn from your mistakes. Im having trouble with that one so switching to methodone.
Anyhow all this is my personal experience.
Sorry also i am on 14mgs.
On 2mgs it didnt block much at all. Over here if you dont take your suboxone for more than 3 days they kick you of the program but i have missed a day or two and used. you can almost feel the blocking feel but like i say it depends how much you use. they say if you swallow it straight away and dont let it dissolve under the tongue then it does nothing anyway.
only works when you let it disolve.
Re: soboxone half life etc..
I can tell you from recent personal expriance, that 15 hours after taking a 8 mlg dose for 6 days, i sampled a try at my usual of opiate of choce and did my usual dosage, i felt no blocking from the subxone and might add that it felt the same as before i was taking the suboxone. BUT ALSO REMEMBER that i have only been using suboxone for 6 days, and have only been taking 8 mlg's a day and a couple of the days days only took 4 mlg.
I do not advocate the taking of any drugs for other than personal Health related issues. But have done my share of abussing them in my life. NO FUN..
Good luck and please be CAREFULL.. Im new to the site, and see alot of differnt views, opinnions and such. It would be horrible for some one to go back to the amount they were ussing before after reading that some one needed twice as much as before suboxone, and try it and OD after tollerance was not as high any more. I had the same question as you until today. I can only give what happed to as being MY OWN expriance. REMEMBER, everone is differnt to how they react to any thing. Caution and prudence always..
This may be a dumb but I took a quarter of a suboxone earlier and about 8 hrs later, I took a 15mg oxycodone. Should I be worried about anything? Thanks
Go to bluelight.com if you want to ask questions on how to ruin your life. Were here to help people fullfil there dreams of being drug free and being able to travel and go camping, spend time with family, make good money, live a normal life. I could care less if you want to relapse but just don't ask it here. Were trying to keep a sanctuary for people having rough times and need help because they have no one else to turn to.
Originally Posted by un0rth0d0x
Yes, you should be worried about your drug problems.Good luck !MM
Originally Posted by scbfhs11
Where in the world does it say that this forum is a 'sanctuary' for people having rough times? This poster OBVIOSLY IS having a rough time. This message board is for people who have questions about drugs. If YOU are looking for a sanctuary try Narcotics Anonymous. Don't berrate and humilite others.....Just go camping.
AMEN.....so sick of these people who judge others. what this person does is none of your business. he has the right to ask a question, and deserves a sufficient answer in ones capability. not to be ridiculed, hassled, made fun of, or lectured. i guess you have as much the right to speak your mind as the person does who asks the question; however in doing so, your just making an ass out of yourself for being judgemental and ignorant!!!!
It may be ignorant of people to be sarcastic to drug abusers but do you realize you're complaining about the original poster who hasn't been on the forum in 1 1/2 years? People can ask any questions they want to here but no one has to reply. Not being argumentative. Just stating a fact. God bless.
I am not a dr. My statements are based on years of experience and related education. Consult with the professional of your choice regarding matters of concern.
Only works when dissolved ?
Not true my friend naloxone has half life 4 hours if your receptors are clean from all opiates and doesn't matter I have in my youth Sean up Suboxone Subutex as well as the strips you do not have to let it dissolve under your tongue call me ignorant if y'all want to but that's my past and people change but I just wanted to educate you that letting it dissolves not the only way that it works and it does not send you into perpetual withdrawal as they lead you to believe
Originally Posted by starryeyed
I do apologize I miss read your post I thought you were saying that it was impossible to love the strips Suboxone or anything with Naloxon however it is stupid but it does feel good no rush just instant . But you are right I have a friend that would pay $20 a piece for a Subutex and she would swallow them and keep coming back for more swearing that it did nothing for her then we figured out all she was doing was swallowing them you do in fact have to let it dissolve sublingual which in hindsight is exactly the same as shooting up for the most part because it is a direct portal to your bloodstream other than plugging
Last edited by Daniellenard985; 11-18-2014 at 04:46 PM.
I know the original question is pretty old, but for others who may come accross looking for suboxone related questions and how long to wait until they can relapse, i will tell you my experience and information I have obtained directly from the manufacturer and my medical professionals. First of all, if you're thinking about relapsing just for the heck of it, I don't recommend it, if you can stay on the suboxone, you should stay on it until yyou are ready to quit, otherwise please just get off the suboxone and and open up a position for someone who needs the treatment and wants to stay clean.
Now, if your doctor dies, like mine did, you should try to take as little amount of your subs and if you cannot get into a new suboxone Dr immediately, and you're going to run out before you can get seen, this is my experience; a rule of thumb is opiates before suboxone makes you sick and opiates after suboxone is not safe, but it will not cause w/d symptoms. But if you can hold off as long as possible before you decide to relapse you will get better effect from your choice of opioid. Same goes the reverse, if you're going back onto the suboxone after a bingeful relapse, you should absolutely wait until your as sick as you can be before you take the suboxone or you will get precipitated withdrawal which lasts a long time, some people react differently some people get it worse than others. But I Would usually wait until I had diarrhea and cold sweats before I would go back on the suboxone. Nobody can give you an exact amount of time because everyone's body chemistry is different. For me I was sick after 4-6 hours after opiates, I have heard of people being in full w/d and taking their suboxone and still get precipitated withdrawals.
Each time I relapsed, was because I either had no choice, meaning I had no suboxone and couldn't find any. After my Dr died it took 6 months to get a new one and in that 6 months I went back and forth between suboxone and opiates, once I found a new Dr I never relapsed.
Both of the doctors gave me the following information, the narcan/naloxone in the medication is inert, it does nothing to you if you take it as prescribed. Iyou only absorb a trace of the narcan when dissolved as directed. It is meant to keep needle users from injecting it. If injected you absorb all of the narcan and it causes most people to have precipitated withdrawals. If you swallow the medication whole, your liver destroys the buprenorphine before it can make it to your brain and you get no effect, this part is kinda funny, my first Dr told me he can prescribe it to certain patients to be swallowed whole, and many will have a placebo effect, he would have them dissolve one, swallow one, and when they tapered off, he had them stop swallowing the one and continue dissolving the other one. Apparently it was a study he never got to finish but he wanted to see how much of addiction is actually mental.
When a person goes on suboxone they are supposed to understand that they will be on it indefinitely, the doctor is not trying to keep you around for monetary purpose, it the suboxone training, they only taper you when you ask to be tapered and only after a certain amount of time successfully taking the medication, now that is what both Drs told me and they only told me because I had to dig it out of them.
Aas far as the Half-Life goes, everyone is different, but for me, it seemed like the longer I was on suboxone, the longer I would have to wait to be able to feel opiates after suboxone. Also if you do get precipitated withdrawal, this is what happened to me, the mfgr of suboxone says to keep taking more suboxone something like every couple hours. Well, I did that but it did not work, I ended up having to wait it out, I waited 24 hrs and took another one. Another thing is, if i wasn't sure if I waited long enough to start take suboxone and avoid getting precipitated withdrawal I would trya crumb size piece first and wait, if I felt better I'd have a bigger piece and so on but if it did not make me feel better it was likely to cause me to get sick and I would try a few hours later.
Also some people are very misinformed about the narcan, like I said before, the narcan does nothing at all if you take as prescribed. It is not the narcan that makes you sick or does the blocking of opiates. The buprenorphine is the superhero and the narcan is the invisible sidekick that only becomes visible after going through a syringe into your bloodstream. Haha. But the buprenorphine bonds so well with your opiate receptors that all other opiates cannot attach. If you have regular morphine attatched to your receptors and the buprenorphine comes in, it literally shoves the morphine mollecule out of the way and the buprenorphine takes over occupation of the receptors. Think of a receptor as your hand. The Buprenorphine is like a glove that fits so well its like it was custom fitted to your hand, the euphoria is not nearly as strong as opiates so the buprenorphine glove is kind of a dull color but it is doing the job.. now morphine is a loose fitted mitten with a stretched out wristband so its comes off easy, but it is the coolest looking Brightest Favorite Color mitten on earth, meaning it has a very strong euphoric effect. Now imagine your wearing the awesome loose mitten but here comes the perfect fitted glove, you wanna keep wearing that glove because it makes you so happy but your hand does not want the mitten anymore, they were destined for each other that boring looking perfect fitted glove so bye bye mitten helllo glove. now your angry, no euphoria, infact just the opposite.
This is why you wait as long as possible before doing it. When your brain is feeling good from a chemical that bonds to only one type of receptor, and you introduce a much stronger bonding but less effective chemical, your brain starts to go all wacky. Narcan plays no part in any of this.
Ive been on suboxone for 4 yrs (2.5yrs successfully no relapse) I am in the process of tapering, don't do it til you and your Dr both agree yiu should andcare ready for tapering.
All of my statement in this post are just a description of my experience and info I received from doctors but I dont recommend anything in my posting at all. Do what your Dr says and you will be ok. And hope your Dr don't kick the bucket. .
Thank you for sharing, I'm learning a lot from this site, just wish there are more updated information.
This is going to sound crazy, but it's the truth. I was on 390mg of methadone for 23 years when that doc retired. The next put my on morphine 300Mg*3 & 120 *4 Oxycodone. I'm a .1% ultra rapid metabolizer(meaning dna mapping & all their are 5 of us in the USA)
ANYWAY.. I was disembarked from Insurance, and my doc (who was weaning me slowly off the morphine & Oxycodone) , told me to try Suboxone... I waited 48 hours after my last bowl movement.. I was at 28 cows & went right to 36 after just 2 bunaval 6.3mg/1mb narcan.. Turns out I'm also allergic to it.. I was given subutex & told to take one every 90 mins until theW/D'd left. I'm at 12*8mg tabs a day.. We know this kills many but what can l do until Sep 1...anyone? Will l be able to take less as the half-life continues? This is my 5th day on subutex.
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I'm a spinal cord injury with burst fractured 3rd lumbar into cord.. Plus failed 2 3 & 4th lumbar failed fusion with iliac crest removal for fusion.. 5 total on spine.. Reasons for the meds it burns like I'm on fire 24/7!
Also we're (doc & me) trying to reset my receptors..
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