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Oxycodone >>. Hydrocodone
You need Oxy
Originally Posted by genegarrett
When you are taking too much Tylenol you need a different drug, not a new compound or more of the same. Hydrocodone is little brother to Oxycodone. Oxycodone comes in 10(yes it does!) 15, 20, 80, etc. so you can go to a low dose of Oxy 15, 20 instead of more hydro or Percocet(5/325,10/650, etc, percs ARE oxycodone, just like Oxycontin is just a name for brand of Oxycodone)
oxycontin is way stronger than all those combined... oxycodone is what makes roxycontin not onycontin
And you are supposed to be a doctor? I hope not.
Originally Posted by DrJacobPaulMcCartyII
In some ways, "oxycodone" can be considered a generic name for OxyContin, as oxycodone is the active ingredient of the medication. However, oxycodone is also the active ingredient in many other medications, so it is probably better to use a term such as "oxycodone extended release" to describe the generic versions of OxyContin.
Oxycodone is indeed and ingredient in Oxycontin, but, to get Oxycontin there has to be hydrochloride. So, Oxycodone Hydrochloride is Oxycontin. If you were to take a regular oxycodone say 15mg, then an 15mg oxycontin the next day. Then compare the two, Oxycodone will be stronger, but it will not last aslong the Oxycontin. One of the main reasons Oxycontin is given to pain management patients is because it of suspection that he/she may be abusing or becoming mentally addicted to the Oxycodone.
Percocet and Oxycodone at not at all the same. Percocet is oxycodone with acetaminophen. Oxycodone will be stronger than a percocet.
Hydrocodone is codeine with acetaminophen, but is also called Vicodin.
Roxicet is the same as Percocet. Roxicodone is oxycodone hydrochloride, which is the same as Oxycontin.
As of recent, Oxycontin has been made into an OP formula that makes it tamper proof. Purdue pharmacy, the company that produces Oxycontin came up with this because they were getting sued. Some say now you dont even get nearly the amount of analgesic effects when taken properly. Although, there are still an couple of ways you can rid the tamper proof formula if you are one that likes to abuse pills. Don't waste your time, get Oxycodone they are cheaper and healthier as well on your body but not your addiction. Oxycodone is also cheaper in the pharmacy than the now OP formula Oxycontin.
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RE:Have any of you with serious pain used Tramadol? I just discovered it on the Web,
I have used tramadol, morphine (MS Contin), lortab (hydrocodone), roxycodone, oxycontin, dilaudid, Opana with a combination of Naproxin to help with some of the break through pain. Tramdol is alright, but I find it relatively closer to taking an Alieve (Naproxin). The best one I have taken to control my pain is the Opana with an occasional Lortab and or Alieve. But everyone is different I have herniated discs at l3,l4, and l5 with a slight fracture that healed weird on my l4 vertebra, as well as 3 wedge vertebrae in my thorasic lumbar and my c4-c6 herniated discs which I had an ACDF surgery that left me with narrow spinal stenosis as the Dr. didn't attempt to fix the stenosis in that surgery. On top of all that I have psoriatic arthritis and my left foot was mangled in accident 13 years ago where a riding lawn mower rolled over on me and reconstructed with 12 surgeries. Try to get OPANA with some Equate Sodium Naproxin (Wal-Mart brand) the Opana is a little on the expensive side. Don't waste your money on Tramadol they use it a lot with cancer patients. Hope this helps
Originally Posted by ruby2oozdy
Oxy is next step up on the scale from hydrocodone.
Both vicodin and oxycodone are exceptionally popular among consumers and makers. For instance, within the class, a ton of brands are put within it, including Lortab, Vicodin, Lorcet and some other drugs. OxyContin, itself a product from opium, is also advertised under different brands on the market, notably the popular Nonsteroidal Anti inflammatory Drug (NSAID) ibuprofen and Oxycodone from Purdue Pharma.
Between the two choices, oxycontin is frequently regarded as being the comparatively stronger alternative to vicodin.
Anyone reading this please pay attention. I have been Diagnosed with Crohns and have been prescribed many different pain medications. At one point i was prescribed tramadol. PLEASE be VERY VERY careful with this medication for long term use. I stopped taking it and went through the MOST INTENSE WITHDRAWALS i have ever experienced in my life. On top of that, i found out you can actually go into seizures from stopping abruptly. I went through SEVER depression and didn't sleep for about 4 days straight. After the third day my psychological problems alone from sleep deprivation almost had me hospitalized. I took ambien on the third day and it didn't help one bit. Sweating and nauseated, tremors, restless body, etc. At times i wished i had the strength to put my head through the wall to stop the madness.. So heres why, and the doctors won't tell you this because they don't know...
Originally Posted by jscching
Tramadol, ultram, etc were actually originally developed as a strong antidepressant. when they realized it also helped with the pain, they exclusively started prescribing it as a "safe alternative" to opiates. They said it wasn't addictive and safe. The reason the withdrawals were so bad is because of the antidepressant side. Seratonin shock set in and i had no idea. Tramadol is a VERY dangerous..
anyone reading this that ever crosses paths should be VERY cautious.
Respect, like in the Pantera song.
Hello. It is highly disrespectful of yourself and others to fail to proofread a post to such a prestigious and important website. There is no excuse.
Originally Posted by buddy1331
Their has been so many people that have abused the pain meds that the DEA has made it a very intimidating atmosphere to ANY physician that prescribes pain meds. They are ALL very worried about losing their license and practice if the DEA decides they are prescibing too much. This, in turn, makes it very difficult to even find a health care provider who will prescribe pain meds for people who legitimately need them in order to be able to function at all. I have been to two of the pain clinics, and was treated like a criminal trying to get meds from a "legal dealer". That's the way all of the people there were treated and it made me very angry! I have had four back operations and was infected during the second one with MRSA in the incision. I was on IV antibiotics for 4 months. I had the first operation because I couldn't walk. The second, because my left hand quit functioning because of a pinched nerve in my neck. The last two, to remove necrotic (dead) tissue in my neck. I also sustained a great deal of nerve damage from the infection, indicated by several nerve conduction tests. The fact that I was treated like a criminal, to try to get enough pain meds to function even minimally, makes me furious. I am currently taking oxycontin and oxycodone for breakthrough pain and have been for 2 years. I unfortunately have developed a tolerance to the meds and my healthcare provider says I am at the maximum she can prescribe. I do not take them for recreation and as far as a feeling of "high", the most I ever feel is a mild relaxation sometimes with my first morning dose. That's what makes me feel so incredulous that people want them so badly. If it's to get the "high" that I experience, they would have to be insane. All they provide for me, is the ability to function, in a very limited manner, in a daily fashion (such as daily hygiene, eating, limited walking, etc.). But, I am very grateful for that!
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Percocet - Oxycodone without acetaminophen - Oxycontin are different medications as I take both, 10mg, Oxycontin and 10/325
Percocet. Where the Percocet I take as directed every 6 hours as the Oxycontin 10mg (Time released) every 12 hours ( or if needed) some days are better than others. I try to take only the Percocet. My PCP had me on a different opiate called Fentenyl 100mg every 48 hours, not only did I gain 23 lbs but I had a bad mood swing and talked with my PCP about taking me off of the patches, I had been on for 5-6 months,e did and was worried about side effects, I didn't care about the side effects I was more concerned about my mood, I was a devil, he tried me on 20mg Opena ER, I had taking it maybe two days and quit. I do need something that will help through the day along with the Percocet, so now he has me on Oxycontin 10mg every 12 hours, again mood swings I am starting to notice just being on them a week! My PCP and I are very close and I like him most because he cares about each of his patients and is not a pill writer. I do know that Percocet has a lot of acetaminophen, which in time can damage your liver. I have also been on the Oxycodone 30mg without any acetaminophen, same at Percocet 10 w/o acetaminophen, which I felt was to strong, I may ask to go back to this pain medication as it is the same as Percocet but taking 3, a bit to strong but rather take something that works than liver damage and/or mood swings. As of today I stopped the Oxycontin 10mg as yesterday I couldn't get along with myself. Please if you have any questions on any of the meds I have taken please ask. Note: Any abusers or asking how to abuse I will report. These medications are fatal.
Last edited by EMS27; 06-11-2014 at 03:32 AM.
Boppy2- I personally like your thread, I just read it and very close to mine...we need more doctors out here that screens their patients better and "Pill writing doctors need their DEA license taken". I worked as a Medic 9 years in the ER and with several doctors and saw it all and the complaints, unreal! My PCP is awesome and we need more like him out there. He don't only drug test, he test for the medication that he prescribes not even in their system, lie to him once your gone!
jscching= You are correct! Don't waste your money on Tramadol _ should be an over the counter pain reliever as Bayer..
I am a relative neophyte with pain and the drugs that can offer some relief. Have used naproxin, tramadol, hydrocodone. Now am using oxycodone, but dose appears small compared to many other posters' experience -- and I am guessing that you are dealing with much more pain.
currently, am taking 10 mg, 4 times per day to help leg/back pain, recovering from stroke.
as a newbie, I just want reassurances that I am far from having to worry about dependence issues or likely need to increase doses. I am such a wienie about this stuff (old prejudices resulting from long, job-related avoidance issues -- nuclear field security concerns, et. al.)
was dealing with much greater pain in years past, but had difficulty communicating -- receptive aphasia -- and was just expecting to expire. happy to be back.
I believe I might be overmedicated. I was on Oxycontin 80 mg, 3x per day plus breakthrough. I was switched to 400 mg of generic Opana. Isn't that too much? I continued with the breakthrough.
I can't help but get the impression that a lot of these questions, if not all, are about how to achieve the highest high. I could be wrong, it just seems the constant concern over a Vicodin (I take 180/m, 7.5mg), and have been for about 6 months now, for severe lower back pain. Does it "fix" the back pain? No. Does it offer enough relief? Most definitely? If you don't mind, may I inquire into what kind of pain, for outpatient use, requires 60mg of Oxy? I'm genuinely curious. Vicodin is addictive enough and I've had enough monkey's on my back. The Vicodin's alone are a bit of a monkey, but it's a manageable "addiction" that hasn't required an increase in dosage. And the pain I refer to is literally crawling out of bed holding on to things and walking bent over until I take two (two in the morning) and they set in, so trust me, it's real pain.