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Plz Help - St Johns Wort withdrawals??
I am new here and not sure where to post [:I] but am in desparate need of some help if anyone can
I went on a form of St. John's Wort over a month ago for some mild depression and nearly instantly into taking it, had days where I was nauseous constantly. That then turned into messing up my stomach to the point of horrible digestive issues/constipation/cramping etc.along with the nausea I went to see one of my new docs who told me to get off immediately and that she didn't believe in it. (at this point I had been on it for over a month)and not really thinking about it, just went home and stopped taking it like she said. 3 dyas after I stopped it only worsened - horribly [xx(] It has now been over a week ago that I stopped cold turkey (why would she tell me to do that??) and it has been one terrible week....my symptoms only magnified and I panicked. Truly it didn't occur to me that this could be withdrawal symptoms until today when I just started crying for no reason - 3x in a row today!! - I just thought something must be terribly wrong with my body or it is something I have been eating since I have heard that SJW is "harmless" and won't produce withdrawals like other drugs. Has anyone else had trouble with SJW or a similar experience both during and after?? I truly need to know I am not losing it here! TIA
ST JOHN'S WART MAKES ME TIRED! TRY SOME RED CLOVER AND SLIPPERY ELM TO HELP YOUR STOMACH. LOOK INTO INCREASING YOUR VITAMINE B-12, MAYBE EVEN TAKE A B-MLTPL, YOU ARE PROBS LACKING IN THOOSE VITAMINES, YOU CAN GET THAT TESTED! YOU MAY NOT NEED MEDICATION AT ALL, JUST VITIMINES!
Hi Believe !
I am very surprised to read of your reaction and withdrawal trouble from SJW. It has been known to cause digestive upsets in some people but no more severe than indigestion. I have never heard of a reaction like this. It sounds to me that the problem has been either an allergic reaction to the pills or something in them. OR a reaction with something else you were taking ? Were you taking any other medication of any kind at the time ? I have never heard of withdrawal from SJW, it can as far as I know be discontinued with no side effects. If you were taking any other type of anti-depressant it is possible you have suffered something called serotonin syndrome. I'd seek medical advice again if you haven't already ! here is a link to an excellent free forum and info site about SJW. You will find answers to anything re SJW there. Regards, Sabina.
Last edited by ddcmod; 10-19-2010 at 04:51 AM.
wow, I so did not know that could happen.
Unlikely to still be the SJW by now, but your 'mild' depression could give you the symptoms you prescribe though unusual. For tummy stuff ginger tea works well, and be careful with food as anything rich will make you feel worse. Stick to bland food, but make sure you drink enough to stay hydrated. There usually aren't side effects from SJW but that does not mean there can never be.
Originally Posted by Sabina21
I am experiencing withdrawal symptoms from SJW today. I have previously taken Zoloft and Effexor for major depression/bi-polar treatment. At least once during treatment of each of the medications I stopped taking them abruptly and suffered heart palpitations, dizziness, stomach upsets and headaches. I don't know if its the combination of these symptoms or something else but it is definitely a unique feeling that I have only ever felt after stopping these two drugs. I felt this again today - months after finishing up properly on the two abovementioned drugs. I immediately thought of SJW as its the only drug/herb I have taken recently. Its been 3-4 days since i stopped. I can say with absolute confidence that the herb caused me to suffer withdrawals. I have also read it in various studies reported online. Its not as rare or impossibly as you may think.
Last edited by ddcmod; 10-19-2010 at 04:50 AM.
Withdrawl symptoms from any substance can be very hard to deal with.
When medical intervention is not necessary, one may discover that natural cleansing can help very much... Things such as taking sea salt baths, drinking an abundance of water ( especially fresh lemon water ), juicing, using therapuetic clays, and even doing gentle stretching excercises are safe ways that some people have found to be safe and beneficial.
I was taking St. John's Wart for a little while, and I wouldnt say I necessarily need it but I've been under quite some stress lately. So I stopped taking it for a few days and I felt like the world hated me, my boss was going to fire me, and I felt like I was in some horrible dream and all I wanted was to wake up.
St John's Wort Withdrawel DOES happen
Oh yeah! Totally! I took St John's Wort for a few months and it worked wonders during the first few weeks....then I started feeling anxiety and also a weird "psychotic" sensation in my mind.....then I stopped cold turkey and started getting the shakes, more anxiety and still this weird psychotic feeling. My conclusion: St John's Wort withdrawal and side effects DOES exist.
Originally Posted by Believe
I hope it will go away soon.
St Johns Wort has Massive side effects
I have taken St Johns Wort for temporary episodes of stress, emotional overwhelm and depression about 3 times in the past. It definitely works but has major side effects, AND withdrawal issues. Debilitating light sensitivity, high blood pressure, headaches, dry mouth, excessive anger, heart palpitations and heat were some side effects. If you taper off of the herb slowly over a period of about 2 weeks there are no withdrawals. However if you stop suddenly you will feel strong emotional and physical symptoms. For me it was hot flashes, tiredness, headache, tingling in arms, depression (crying for no reason), and a feeling that other people don't like me (also mentioned in this thread). I have spoken to others who have taken it and they say similar things. I have no idea where anyone would get the idea that there are no side effects or withdrawals from taking this herb. Just keep in mind that the withdrawals do pass in time.
I stopped St johns Wort 3 days ago
I do as well dont understand after taking it for 8 days or so I developed high blood pressure , hot flashes , burning sensation in face headaches , went to dr and they said they felt it was the medicine and to give it time how long is it going to take to get out of my system ? HELP
Originally Posted by perfectbrilliant
withdrawal side effects after stopping St Johns Wort
Took St Johns Wort and Ginseng for about 10 days or so then one day out of the blue my bp spiked high and went to er they did chest xrays ekg etc... all normal .. pee and blood also normal . they seem to think it was the herbs . I have still elevated bp I stopped taking them on fri 14th and I havent taken them this is day 4 I have flushing and heat off my face and neck , burning sensation around my eyes etc... HELP how long does it take to get out of your system and has anyone experienced this ???
The symptoms and sickness we get these days were once only treated by natural substances. More than half the drugs and meds we take today are derived from a natural source. Opium, nicotine, caffiene, etc. all naturally occuring and all can cause mild to severe withdrawals it all depends on the person. Our bodies are all the same and different too when it comes to brain chemicals and how well they are produced and distributed. I have never heard of withdrawal from SJW and at first was thinking it had to be something else but after thinking about it I think it is very possible.
Withdrawal from st johns wort
I was taking St Johns Wort for nearly 3mths and Eve Primrose Oil for few wks. I suffered from Agoraphobia, Anxiety and am Pre menopausal. My symptoms were not improving so my doc has put me on Busperone. I am thinking positive about this med having read numerous POSITIVE reviews BUT I have felt awful since coming off sjw although I already suffered horrible heartburn/nausea indigestion whilst on it. I waited 5days from coming off sjw to starting buspar my doc said should be ok after 48hrs but did stop sjw almost cold turkey. Symptoms now! aching head, eyes, still indigestion etc, palpitations even worse first thing in mornings, depression. Please can anyone give me any idea how long these probs will last.
I got laid off my job and I went on a huge alcohol benge. When I quit the anxiety and depression were unbearable so I went to the doctor. He prescribed Zoloft but I have always been anti- big pharma so I look up the side effects and they seemed horrible.
I bought a tincture of sjw and have been taking it for a month and the anxiety and depression mellowed out a lot. I have been taking 60 drops three times a day. I ran out two days ago and decided to just quit. Bad idea! Last night I was so irritable and mean I started a big fight with my pregnant fiancé. My anxiety was terrible leading up to this and I could not sleep. Today I feel like I have the worst hangover ever. My brain is pounding, I cannot concentrate and looking back on the day seems like a dream or like it happened a long time ago. I am sick to my stomach and feel like ????.
I just went and bought a new bottle and am going to ween off. I have to feel better tomorrow for a job interview.
St John's Wort
Reply from Shotze. I am new here also.
Originally Posted by Believe
After having some similiar weird reactions to taking St John's Wort and adding a tricyclic antidepressant, I spoke to my pharmacist and he said that St John's Wort was like PROZAC! I would have never touched the stuff had I known that! I have stopped both now and am having flashbacks of flu feelings, crying jags, anger episodes and feeling hated by my husband. It has been 5 weeks and I am wondering how long it will last. If you look up withdrawal symptoms from Prozac it is helpful. Hang in there! I would suggest speaking to a compounding pharmacist as most doctors don't recognize herbal treatment and it is hard to find someone who knows about both pharmaceuticals and herbals.
So I'm wondering...how long did take to get out of your system ?
Hi, I was on SJW (Perika brand) for about 2.5+ years. I started at 900mg. Went to 1200mg but didn't feel anything different. Went back to 900mg, and then after some time went to 600mg. 600mg seemed to help me feel better. Now I'm tapering down to 300mg by alternating 300mg and 600mg every other day. Eventually soon I want to stay at 300mg and see how I do. I think I've had some mild withdrawal symptoms such as mild ill feeling (nausea, malaise), also some mild dizziness, and my eyes seem to get blury at times, nothing major, but definately not 100% normal. Anyway, my plan is to stay on 300mg for some time, allow my body to adjust and then possibly come off SJW all together.
I've had nausea it seems after taking each of my doses, I've come to the conclusion that it was doing that after ruling out everything else. But it's mild enough so it's tolerable.
My ND said to take Vitamin E and Fish Oil to help with any brain zaps, but I haven't seemed to have any of those, although I'm already in fish oil and do take Vitamin E at times.
I'm hoping my serotonin levels will stay intact once I get off SJW. I feel my mood is pretty darn stable. But I also had to heal some other areas of my body such as my adrenal fatigue, insomnia, etc....Once I started sleeping better and healing my adrenals I've felt better with more energy and better moods.
Anyway, sounds like some of you have had some withdrawal symptoms after only taking SJW a short time. Yikes, I've been on it for 2.5 years or so, so I'm a bit concerned. But, the key is taking it slowly, to taper off slowly. That's what I'm doing so hopefully it will not be too bad.
This is an old forum thread but wanted to update it and write my opinions about SJW.
I have, panic, anxiety, obsession to series of diseases, mild depression. These are sometimes coming up and goes, sometimes comes and wont go, in such cases I do make my own SJW tea. The herbal itself is growing in my garden and I have it as drained. I do put almost a handfull of drained SJW leafs into big cup of hot water and wait 7 minutes.
When I drink it, i am the happiest man in this world, it is like something miracle, it takes all panic, anxiety after 30 - 40 minutes and the good side of this herbal is, i do not drink it everyday like many people do here and taking it as a medicine pill.
I only drink its tea for once when I feel bad, it fixes me for at least 4-6 months. I never needed to take it everyday, I dont know why people take it everyday. Also I never get those withdrawals people mention here. Maybe I do drink it one time maybe the tea version becomes harmless, I dont know.
But one thing i know, it is a miracle. So I recommend its natural leaf type you get, and make the tea once, thats already enough for once, not everyday.
Just make sure you don't mix with ANY anti-depressants! It will be synergistic & can cause seratonin syndrome! The same goes for Kava Kava.
Best of luck. ( I worked w/research grp on these herbs).
ST. John's Wort Withdrawls
Originally Posted by Believe
I am glad I finally figured out how to use this thread Because you are not alone. Have your symptoms subsided? I was recently taking New Chapter Total Mood which was 24mg Hypercin/1170 SJW. They discontinued the product, and so I just started taking a Solar Ray product. Within days I started having severe panic attacks and anxiety. I was dizzy, lightheaded, and could barely stand up without feeling like I was going to faint. This lasted for about a week. I am just now getting through it. I just realized over the last 2 days that this is what has been happening. Now looking back I understand that the New Chapter supplement was incredibly, incredibly strong compared to everything else on the market available. Since its an herb I never considered the effects this may have. When I stopped taking it, I wrote the company to ask for suggestions on other brands or products. I wish they would have advised of this potential condition. Serotonin withdrawal is very real.
Things that have helped me: lots of sunshine everyday, listening to my body... for me this meant eating very high quantities of healthy fats (I craved dairy, meat, avocado, beans - this was all very contrary to my normal lifestyle, but my body literally craved it so I went with it... and thank god I did because all of these foods will help heal your nervous system if it's stressed), High doses (3 tbsp a day) of Quality Cod Liver Oil, Drinking lots of water, and resting as much as possible. Vitamin B complex. The healthy fats will begin to soothe and heal your nervous system and brain. Vitamin B is good for this as well, but I feel like the fats are even better. I drank about a quart of Goats milk every day this week, simply because it was the only thing that would ground me and settle my nervous system. If you start to panic because you feel bad, lay down with your feet up the fall. This will stop adrenaline from pumping through your body. Let yourself cry. It will get better. Try to relax and embrace the experience, knowing it's going to be alright soon.
I also highly recommend Anna Gibson Steele's 60 second panic solution. This got me through the worst of it, and I feel has dramatically changed my life. Blessings
Update: Also just realizing this thread is very old. I hope you are feeling better after all this time- and hopefully this will be of some help to anyone else who may be suffering.
Last edited by alalalana; 07-27-2016 at 09:01 AM.
Maybe...might need to reconsider....
I'm having a similiar situation, can anyone please come and help me a bit?
Guys I have a similiar situation. I'm a 18 years old boy that used St johns wort 300mg two times daily for exact 17 days, when I simply quit after trouble sleeping. Now a few days has passed and right now I'm feeling a little strange, kinda of agitated, scared of things, and basically I'm not very well. Even though I read that I should stop taking by the little to avoid side effects I just didn't want anything to do with this supplement anymore so I stopped all at once.
What makes it a little more scary is that sometimes I did felt strange and agitated, even without it, so I'm not sure if it's just me or the withdraw effects, but I supose it is the withdraw, please someone tell me that this will pass, and what can I do to make it feel better?