I just need help I had major back surgery on may 5th of this year they shaved off each disc in my spine and then put in 2 long rods and 14 screwsand they had me on norco 10/325 and I was taking them every 4 hours 2 at a time and then I started taking more and more because they were not working well I ended up regular vicodin and they didnt work so I would just take more and ended up taking around 27 vicodin in a 16 hour period I just want it to go away I just want to stop taking all these pills I hate them and hate what They have done to me its all I think about and im going through horrible withdrawal right now Im out of pills and I figured enough is enough and I'm quitting cold turkey and its just a horrible feeling I hate it! please if anyone has any suggestions it would be great thank you
Withdrawal from vicodins?
Added 8 Oct 2010:
thanks everyone for your loving words of hope this is my second day now im just out of energy and have no strength I feel depressed and lonely even though my g.f is sitting right across the room I just don't understand this...my back is absolutely killing me with a passion I think I may need to stay on the medicine until my back fully heals my doctor said if I want she will give me a perscription on monday which is still 3 days ago by that time ill be on my 5th day I think I just need someone to limit the amount I take when I have them I take way to many.....idk this is all very confusing and frustrating.
I know what you're going thru. It really does suck! Please google the "Thomas Recipe" for opiate withdrawals. Could you get a mild benzo for restlessness? Also drink lots of water, gatorade, sweating and urinating often will help get the meds out of your system sooner. Very important to stay hydrated. Cotton T's to change often. Soak in hot baths for body aches and relaxing your muscles. Get some Advil, ImodiumAD, supplements that are listed on the "recipe", and try to stay in a calm, dark environment. You will feel like your energy is drained. If it's physically possible, get outside and do lots of walking. It will help boost your feel good endorphines. If you feel like you really can not go through this, please call your doctor. After recovery, please some counseling may help as many people relapse after opiate use. There are many compassionate members here who will help you. Please try to post often for support.
Is there someone there who can help you? Try and stay strong. I know it's going to be a rough few days, but if you stick with it, you won't be disappointed. I wish you well and hope you have a speedy recovery.
I hear you soulreaper, and I am so sorry you are having to go through this. It is something no one should ever have to do. I am concerned with something though. Are you still in a lot of pain? My boyfriend had much the same problem that you do, and it took him a year to recover from the surgery. How do you feel now? Are you pain free or do you have a lot of or constant pain? That is something to consider. There is notably a lot of pain after back surgery that goes on for quite some time. You may or may not have enough pain right at this point to either stay on or quit the Norco. That is a factor you need to consider. If you do have pain, is it a pain that you can live with, without meds? Try to look honestly at that question. It's not as easy as it sounds. Our minds can trick us either way, by telling you you need more (and you might or might not) and by telling you to get off that stuff, when you are in too much pain to.
I know you want off, and you want off now, but is cold turkey the right way for you? I will tell you this. If you can do a slow taper, it would be much easier. Quitting cold turkey can be done, but it is a lot easier on the body and the mind to slow taper. Also, there is a possibility of seizures when you just quit outright, not to mention the agony of sudden withdrawel. What you are feeling right now is just the beginning. You have not been taking Norco that long, but the amount that you have been taking is really high, and make it harder to just quit. But, if that is what you choose to do, I will do my best to give you any information I can to help you through this. First Google "The Thomas Recipe". He posted this after putting it together and successfully using it, and it has a lot of good ideas, and things to get to help you through the withdrawel process. You will feel like you just want to die for several days, (but the Thomas recipe will be a lot of help) and in about a week or so, you will come out of the fog and the horrible things you are feeling now will lesson some. Six months from now you will feel like a new person. Do all of the things that you can that are in that "recipe", especially the hot bathes (as many as you can), and try to walk, even if you think you can't, at least for 10 minutes. If you will take it temporarily, valium is a great helper in calming you down, and you only need to use it temporarily. He lists things to do for the continual diahrea, the restless leg problems, and as I said, it is all in the Thomas Recipe. You will find that other people on this site will answer this question. This is an amazing bunch of people here, with good advice (from having been there or going through it currently). Listen to everything they write and do as much as you possibly can. I will stay with you through this if you would like. You should not be alone., and that is another thing to think about. Is there anyone there for you, to help you get through this? You will need a support system to help and cheer you on. If you have no one, then please come back here (either way, come back) to this site. We are a great "computerized" support sytem that you can tap into anytime. There are so many of us, and we all care so much about what happens to you. You can do this, you will see, but a support system of some kind, is strongly suggested, especially because of the amount of Norco/vicodin you were taking. Cold Turkey is a nightmare, I'm sorry to say, but a temporary one, and if that is what you choose, then you go for it, but don't let yourself suffer painwise. Please consider that before you quit. You need to be realistic about it. You might just consider a slow taper, or even the possibility of switching to a med that is extended release. There are many, but unfortunately they all are addictive too. They are made to help you around the clock, and you end up not taking near as many as you do the Norco/Vicodin. My boyfriend takes one at night before he goes to sleep, and he sleeps all night and does not have that drugged out feeling you get in the daytime. He has done this successfully for 3 years now, and has not upped the dosage in the last year and a half. The other thing you might want to consider is the drug "Suboxone." (somewhat like methadone). If you decide to go that route, you will not have any withdrawel symptoms at all. And it is also a good pain reliever. It does have it's drawbacks though, I am told. It too, is addictive. If you stay on suboxone for over a year, you you may (probably will) have some nasty withdrawel from it, although I can't say that for certain. There are both nightmare stories and rave reviews. It is different for each person, but I'm told that if you go off within a year, the withdrawel is not as bad as it would be staying on it for longer and then going off. This drug works wonders and causes nightmares, depending on how long you stay on it, remembering that not everyone reacts the same. The best part about it is no withdrawel from your Norco/Vicodin. Personally, I would recommend the slow taper. It takes longer but is much easier on the body and the mind. The drawbacks are having enough time to do that, and you would have the pills right there with you, so the temptation would be there in front of you. I will go into more detail if you decide to try that. I will make you my friend, and if you make me yours, I will be notified when you come on and ask a question or make a comment. This way, I can get to the site via e-mail notice that my friend soulreaper has posted something. Also make any others who answer this your friend and we will also be able to private message each other if you would rather. Please don't make yourself suffer physically too much. A little pain is one thing, but anything of substance needs to be looked at realistically. Living with chronic pain is not an easy thing to do. And I highly recommend talking to your doctor about anything you are thinking about doing. So think about all these things and please come back and let me know what you have decided to do. It's not easy, I know that, and my heart goes out to you. Be strong and you will find your way into the light again. Take care and God bless and see you through this very difficult stage in your life... I am beanmarie
I can't add anything of much importance to what christine and beanmarie told you. I cold turkeyed off opiates just over a year ago, so I know the hell you are going through right now. Just remember, this too shall pass. Please keep posting, let us know how you are doing.
Are you perspiring profusely, vomitting, or do you have the chills? If not, then perhaps you will have an easy time of it.
I kept a journal of my WD experience, and remember the horror well, my journal will keep me away from opiates forever.
Best wishes to you,
You have gotten some great advice from some really great people so I don't think there is much I could add. Just keep believing things will eventually get better, not as soon as you would wish, but it will get better. Don't let the guilt get to you. I know I feel guilty for just about everything... none of this was your fault, it really sucks when you are innocent and just trying to get some pain relief and then next thing you know, you are where you are at now. Keep all of us posted on your progress, there are sooo many caring people here. It is the best advice and encouragement system around!!! In the end you will feel as if the people here are like your family (well, better than family actually). They don't judge you, only try to help and support you when you need it. Good luck, we are all pulling for you. (:
Soulreaper... I also am addicted but just talked with my alcohol counselor who I have been lying to for 3 years. I now am in the process of tapering off til i am clean... (God willing) Hopefully I will hit my 1st NA meeting next week... meeting a friend who has been clean for 4 years. really try to surround yourself with clean and sober people and the miracles will start coming! These people on line are some of the best advice givers I have heard in awhile... "Don't quit before the miracle happens!!"
probably stopping the medication cold turkey is way too hard and your body after taking so much got use to more and more probably ask the doctor to give you a certain amount and then reduce your dose even if its a half one week then drop a whole pill till your body and your nervous system adjusts I know it's rough I take norco for severe pain (as breakthrough) I don't like the way these medications make you feel another consideration do you think if your pain had been under control that you would have increased the medicine ? taking something for a long time your body adjusts and it takes more and more to keep up and your liver requires larger doses because it throws out or does detoxification so just take care please let us know how you are and consider the question I asked we all care
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