Will changing from Subutex to a short acting opiod make the abstinence syndrome be less intense?
- 19 Aug 2009 by Anonymous
- 26 Aug 2009
- subutex, opiate dependence
I was treated with morphine long enough to become physically dependant however I am not an addict per se. I have been wanting to get off of it as I hate all unneccisary medications and I am primarily a naturalist when it comes to medications. A friend told me that since Subutex is a long acting opiod that the withdrawals will likely go on and on and on for weeks possibly. He suggested that perhaps I should change dependency to a short acting opiod like codeine which is available where I live cheaply and without a perscription and that the withdrawals from that would last only a week or so. By the way, Subutex was far superior to Suboxone for me at least. I had gruesome headaches and muscle aches on Suboxone I feel due to the artificial colors and flavors in it as well as to the Naloxone.
I just cannot accept wasting $10 a day on Subutex when I could feed a starving famly for that much if not less. However I must say that I have never felt better in my life mentally which leads me to wonder if I have had a chemical imbalance in my CNS all of my life that this "wonder drug" has helped tremendously.
Please help me decide on a direction to follow if anyone can. I would prefer to not go abruptly off of the Subutex for fear of unbearable suffering for months on end and I also want to avoid a detox facility. Since I am not an addict I don't want to waste time on NA meetings and support groups.
Added 19 Aug 2009:
I guess I was nervous with this being my first post and I left out crucial information. I was taken off of Morphine Sulfate drip in December and since then have been on 4mg of Subuutex taken twice a day. I started with 4 mg once a day but I was still feeling bad so my doctor increased it to twice a day. I just feel that I am wasting money using this very expensive drug that my insurance wont cover. I have considered poppy tea as a natural alternative but I have hear horror stories related to dosage control etc.
Going back to a quick acting opiate is not recommended as your brain does not revert back to it's original chemical state which is extremely important.
As far as coming off suboxone there is a proper way to detox off this drug virtually withdrawl free. It sounds to me that you are not ready to come off this drug yet but when you do please contact Robert here on this site. He has tremendous success with detoxing people the proper way. It takes longer to come off this drug but it's worth it in the end.
I know what you mean when you say you have never felt better mentally. A lot of addicts and people that aren't addicts have felt shitty all their lives. They try anti-depressants and all other kinds of treatments with little success. This is why a lot of addicts get hooked on opiates. If you do have a endorphine deficiency then suboxone will help this. Short acting opiates like morphine help for a limitted time but the euphoria turns to dysphoria after time. Leaving the addict to take more and more opiates trying desperately to feel normal. I was taking an average of 3,000 mgs of morphine daily before I got on Methadone. I have been on MMT for the last 7+ years and my life has turned around for the better. I'm back to work, I have energy and that awful depression is gone. ANyway, this is about you and I'm here to help..Good luck... Dave
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