once doctors start perscribing it for pain the word will get out.
I was recently told that ANY doctor can prescribe Suboxone or Subutex aka Buprenorphine for pain, and even put refills on the script. That's news to me. Is this what you're talking about?
Maybe one reason they don't is if they are aware that Bupe seems to permanently alter your brain. I was on Bupe for 5 years and then taken off for 1 year. I have now chosen to be on it again, mostly because I had no choice. When I was taken off I had some strong back pains. So the doc gave me Percs. Right off the bat I needed 100 to 150 mg a day of Oxycodone to kill the pain and to stay out of wds. And the withdrawal symptoms (wds) were a bigger problem than the pain. The doc did not know this was going to happen. Thankfully he believed me. After 1 year I was up to 300 mg a day of Oxy just to stay out of wds. I didn't even need that much for the pain, but I did for the wds. This may be why docs don't want to use it for pain. But even so, they are using it in the form of the Butrans patch. That patch is so new we don't know what will happen with it yet. But I don't think very low doses of Bupe cause these problems because I know 1 guy on the patch and he was also taking 2 or 3 Percs a day for BT pain and he could feel the Percs. He was on it 5 months and has now quit it. He's on day 4 of no more patch.
Another thing Sub does is it prevents you from feeling the opiates as opiates. In other words you no longer get the buzz. Even at 300 mg a day, I never felt a buzz. I also can no longer get a buzz from beer, and this does bother me somewhat. So on the 1 hand I too wish docs would use Bupe more for pain, but on the other I don't think it's good to make people lose the ability to have a few drinks and catch a high. Not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic. There are plenty of people that just like to mellow out with a few drinks after work. If you stay on Bupe long enough, you lose that, and maybe permanently. I don't know. I was off it 1 year and I still couldn't get an alcohol high. I tried it twice in that time with wine. I'm not much of a drinker anymore by choice. But I once was.
I have also tried to start a thread both here and on other boards where people could tell us what happened to them after being on Bupe? I get very few responses. I ask what has happened to their resistance to other opiates, can they still catch a buzz from the other opiates, and can they still catch a buzz from alcohol? It seems people just don't want to discuss this. I don't blame them, as it is a scary topic. But we all really need to know. I heard of 1 young man on Bupe who supposedly could still get high on alcohol. But it was his Mother who reported this, not him. She assumed he was still feeling high because he kept drinking in excess. I would have preferred to hear from him, but he wasn't in to message boards.
What about you, subzero? Have you been on Sub, or are you still on it? What has happened to how you respond now to other opiates and alcohol? Can you share with us?
Cuz suboxone is not for pain.if u go to Dr asking for that they will ne very hesitate to prescribe. U need have an opiate addiction and be going through severe withdrawals. The biggest mistake patients make is asking Dr for subs to relieve pain. The suboxone will help ease the withdrawal off any opiate. I would go to Dr in a state of detox then u should get ur prescription. Make sureit is for the right reasons.after being prescribed subs u may feel that they ease ur back pain or etc.
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