Hi Lady TO... I am not sure why you would have to go up on a dose higher than what you are on... and, I know, you were not asking for yourself... you were just wondering why anyone would have to go higher. I agree 100% with what Patti said below. She is the most knowledgable one here on this site re: sub therapy... so I listen to everything she says and think everyone should do so also. I personally had to go from 2mg 2xday to 2mg 3x/day to eliminate cravings. I am now back down to two times a day. I did initially feel a high on the first dose the doc gave me in his office to eliminate my WDs. I was completely taken aback because i was not expecting this... and it did confuse me because I thought, for sure, that I was not suppose to feel this way... the doc said that it was normal. I have not had that feeling again, thankfully, on the dose that I am on. I look forward to the day, hopefully soon, that I can drop down again.
But I do know that a time period must transpire to allow my brain to heal and to get rid of all those extra receptor sites that were brought on by my opiate usage. I also know that this time period allows me to go through not having that habit of wanting to take a pill for every little thing. In the interim period, I am doing hard work with my addiction therapist to sort through the "why's" of taking the increased amount of opiates and to, as Patti says, to learn the triggers that led me to the abuse of opiates. Anyway... sorry this is so longwinded... maybe it has been a little therapy for me in needing to express the above to allow myself to heal??? I start tonight, with my addiction therapist, who, has offered to be my sponsor, to start to go through the introspective period of going through, in detail, the twelve steps to recovery. I am a bit scared but I do know that I need this to truly heal myself from the many reasons for which I was abusing opiates. I wish you and everyone here to be able to do this and gain the strength that it takes to beat this horrible addiction to opiates and the control that they took over my/our lives. May God bless you and everyone here that is recovering from this addiction... all my best to you, my friend... pup.
7 Oct 2011
Lady, I can understand your wondering about this, as we have talked about your dose and thinking it was so high. (I am still wondering if you would have found a lower dose would have staved off your cravings giving it a tad longer.) But, anyway, I agree with Patti. She has been down this road herself and pretty much paved the way for us to learn by. Unless someone tries to shoot suboxone (and I did find a forum on another site that is dedicated strictly on how to get high on subs and methadone... what an absolute waste of a site and a such a sad, sad thing to read... ) there is absolutely NO reason why anyone should ever increase to such high mgs.
How are you doing? Feeling better?
8 Oct 2011
Hi lady! I applaud your efforts to look into & do some 12 step work. This helped me immeasurably to uncover, discover & discard many of my underlying defects of character, which surfaced during the periods when my addictions were in control of my actions, thoughts, words, everything! Sometimes I think that the world would be a better place if everyone was required to do some thorough 12 step work, at some point in their life. I had a male sponsor, someone who wouldn't let me get away with any tricks, which I tried to fool myself & others with while in my addictive thinking; someone who didn't encourage my complaining about this or that, but motivated me to take a serious look at what motivated me, what my intentions were in any given situation... where was I at fault, where was I selfish, self-centered, dishonest or fearful in each relationship and situation...
and, what did I do & how did I act as a result of trying to get all of my needs met? All of this gave me an objective look at who I was, who I had become, and most importantly who I wasn't! I wasn't a bad person, but a sick person trying to get well. As a result of this work, I made several hundred amends and can hold my head high with no guilt or shame over what was in the past... its over & done with. Good luck on your journey! It will be an incredible one, and the more open-minded you are & willing to take an honest look at yourself, your actions and your choices, the more you will gain from this enriching experience. Today, I can easily say I'm sorry when I've offended someone, and I'm not easily offended by others, nor do I take very much personally. I realize we all have certain sicknesses in thinking or perception, and can cause many of our own problems through narrow mindedness or perhaps a chip on our own shoulder or as a result of what has happened to us in the past... its not fun to live that way... looking to be hurt or to feel bad. There's plenty wrong with the world for us to create any more problems for ourselves... its great to feel such relief and freedom from all that pain & anger. Hope you're doing well. Jillian :)
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