I need specific advice and details from somebody who has succesfully tapered off of suboxone. Robert325, i see you havent posted in a while and I would really like to talk to you one on one and more in depth to make sure I do everything right. Im trying to do this exact because I am just beginning my dosage and want to make sure I do everything perfectly so it is the easiest possible to take care of. I have been taking painkillers(hydrocodone,oxycodone and oxycontin) for the past 6 months and build up a pretty high tolerance very quickly up to about 150-200 mgs up until a couple days ago when i tried stopping. I tried to taper and quit cold turkey recently and just could not do it because the withdrawals are horrible and Im a full time student in Law school and need all the energy possible to complete my day. A couple friends of mine have been heavy opiate users in the past and have been on suboxone for yrs now and thats not the route I want. So I got one of my good friends to give me about 20-30 subs for this process. As stated earlier by you guys, they too say their doctors write them script after script and they say the docs give them so many they have hundreds left over and to spare. So here goes my story, 3 days ago was my last dose of oxys, i waited aprox 20 hrs after my last dose until I took my first sub. Let me say i was feeling horrible and hate that feeling. I can usually take everything else other than the restless leg syndrome and the hot to cold flashes are the worst. When i took the sub I took 4mg and was releived instantly. An hr later I took another 4mgs just to be on the safe side bcuz i didnt want to go thru that feeling of w/d's again.(my first dose of sub was at 10pm and 2nd dose at 11pm). The next morning I took 2mg's around 3pm and another 2 mg's around 1am bcuz i started feeling restless and needed sleep. Today I waited until 2pm before I took 2mg of sub and it is currently 12am and still feel fine. I am about to go to sleep and hopefully the 2 mgs i took earlier lasts me all day. When i wake up I was going to take another 2mg around 2pm again bcuz thats sounds how you guys said to do it. Now after tomorrows 2mg dose, do i cut it down 25% the next time i take it and leave it at 1.5mg for four days and keep dropping it at 25% every four days if i experience no wd's? I just want to make sure Im doing it properly. Please write back anyone with experience who has successfully tapered off. Robert I hope you see this. Thanks all for the help and support and wish me luck!!!
I'll be more than happy to work with you if you will simply agree to do as I ask. I'll never tell you anything that will mess you up I assure you. Here are the most important things in sub therapy. Always induct at the lowest dose possible. But you've already done your induction. 8mg is high for the amount of oxy you were using in my experience. I recommend you cut that back to 6mg immediately. Wait about four days and go to 4mg. Then stay there a week. That will give you time to get past the original opiate detox time period. DON'T be jumping around on the times you dose or don't wait to see how long you can go without. This is a process and needs to be adhered to exactly. You need to be consistent with how you do this everyday.
Only take your sub twice a day PERIOD. Take half when you get up, then about 8 hours later the other half and do it the same time every day. After about a week at 4mg start titrating down by 25% every four days until you get to 1mg. You can drop to .5mg from there after that and can even taper down to .25mg after the .5mg dose. I'll explain how to cut/break the pills to get them down to the little doses when we get there. Don't worry about that.
If you feel any really bothersome w/d symptoms as your dose gets low I know some tricks to get past it. So I'm asking you to be a little naive and trust what I'm telling you. You stick with me and do exactly what I say and you'll be a success story. I want to say it will take about six weeks but I need to see how you react to the plan for a little bit before I can really be accurate.
Don't ever stop using them abruptly no matter what anyone says!!! After you're comfortable, feeling normal at between .25mg-.5mg you'll do a day-skipping process. If you need to you can even taper lower to .125mg if you're struggling AT ALL. You always need to be feeling good when you reduce or the anxiety/wd symptoms will not go away and you'll be miserable from then on.
This is very important at the end! Take your dose, then skip ONE day totally. Dose again and then skip TWO days. Dose again and then skip THREE days. Dose again and once you've made it FOUR days you've then allowed enough time to cover the long half life of buprenophine (main drug in subs). You should be able to stop then with nothing more than a little anxiety, possibly a slight amount of depression. But other than that it will be incident-free for all practical purposes if you follow this to the letter.
If you request that we become friends here ( I will then have to okay it ) then you can ask me private questions and I'll walk you right through this and you'll never have to use again. I've done this exact same thing myself and with others all over the world successfully and I've been clean 8 years now. I'll stick with you if you'll do exactly as I ask of you and I'll never tell you anything that will hurt you I promise you. Hope that helps.
Here is the link I wrote some time ago about sub tapers. Read it just for knowledge so the things I ask you to do will make more sense to you. I've made a few modifications since it was written as we've learned more but this link is still very accurate. Trust me and I won't abandon you or let you down. Stay in touch right here. God bless. : )
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