opiates for as long as six to nine months. I have been on subutex for just over seven months, I have titrated down to 4mgs daily. have trouble sleeping more than 6hrs. How much longer will it take to be off subutex , and is there a proven treatment to sleep more and get more and better sleep?
Suboxone is a good drug but subutex seems smoother since a long term methodone user leeks out?
- 4 Feb 2010 by rich1207
- 4 Feb 2010
- suboxone, subutex, down syndrome, sleep disorders, sleep
Added 4 Feb 2010:
I'm not going to give a history of my injuries as they are many and complicated by reinjury. As I've been told the opiates are part of the pain increaSING PROBLEM. By june of 2009 I was taking 6-10 ten miligrams of methadone and snorting blue oxyies. probably at least 3-4 daily an as much as ten 30mg oxycodone a day. I must include the two 5mg valium at bedtime as a factor. along with 1-2 joints of midies weed. For laymen of the hemp smoking gendre. That means 2-4 puffs to make your feet float.6 times a day just to staybin the pain free and feeling numb zone. It toke me 10 years to get this messed up so I guess I am doing quite well after only 8 months. I weaned down to 30mg of methadone daily. Then stopped the methadone and was prescribed oxycodone 30mg four times daily and clonidine .02mg three times daily for agitation complicated by high blood pressure. Then after a week of that I stopped all opiates and benso's ie valium. Was started on 2 suboxone 8mg daily. That was rough but tolerable I requested subutex as It does,t have the narcan in it too. This was smoother and after another three weeks I was titrated down to 1- 8mg subutex daily for three months. I began reducing by breaking the pills in half so I wouldn,t run out after about two months. Of being on approximately 6mg daily by taking only half one day and a whole 8mg every other day. Till now I am taking half which is where I am now for the las week. Unbeleivable considering where I was 8 months ago. I am back in school going for my masters; started January 15th kind of scary but not boring.Good so far as long as the state keeps paying for these expensive pills they are $10 a piece if you pay out of pocket. Which I had to do several times. As the pharmacy wants its money. some advice try and stay ahead of your prescription and have extra pills as there are foul ups either by your doctor,the insurance provider, or the pharmacy. One time I was taking 4mg daily for a week just so I wouldn't go broke or go into total withdrawal after 4 months into this, I really wasn't ready for that low of a dose and I was able to get some samples as my doc trusts my judgment now. I know I've written a lot here, but this is as honest about this situation as I can be. Hopeflly I,m saving more than just one life. Please respond as my head is clear and I have more expertise in this area than the average rx user. I have done the steps programs and I've tryed this alone without support of someone who truely wanted to see me clean. And It is clear to me that if you can get help be it pharmacopia or psychotherapy get as much help as you can get. If we put as much effort into getting free as we did getting fu==++ up we'll be able to definitely do this. suboxone/subutex is better than methadone. I just hope I can get free of all of it eventially.
I got down to 15mg of methadone before switching to suboxone 4mg in october 2009. I was on methadon for 17 months and never got higher than 60mg because of past experience. My sleep is finally coming back and i can feel my body starting to make its own endorphins again. its weird. We are almost in the same place. I am down to .5mg of suboxone a day and i did that very slowly by decreasing .5 a week or two. When i dont take the .5 i can feel the diffrence because even thats strong. So right now i am just taking that and for sleep try 300 micrograms of melatonin and work up to 1-2mg of it for sleep and if it works then use it for 5 days on 2 days off but your sleep is pretty good if your getting about 6 hours. just go slow on the subs and wait and you will be able to tell. just dont go down to2mg then nothing. if you could tell a little more, how much did you start out at and how long and how much with methadone were you on. Your right methadone withdrawal is one of the longest with the secondary withdrawals but it sounds like you are in a very good place.let me know
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