I signed a pain contract about two years ago. My doctors nurse just brought the contract in and said yoy have to sign this pain contract without fylly explaining the details of it. I trusted her and signed it. Well a couple of months ago i began receivivg dental care had 3 root canals and alot of extensive dental work done and he prescribed me some lortabs 7.5 it never dawned on me that because i was receiveing a prescription from my reg. Doc monthly for my chronic knee and lower back pain that receiving this script from the denist was a violation. Like i said the contract wad never explained to me i never took any piss tests which i would have gladly. So now my doc tells me i cant receive my meds. Anymore.what should i do i really need my med.especially now its going to get cold whuch is when my pain is worsened
I understand your confusion because of it being dental work. However , you did sign a contract and the doctor has a right to enforce it.
What would I do?
I think I would request an appointment with the administrator.
I don't know how your doctor found out about the scripts. It may be important for your credibility.
I would dress nicely and approach this in a calm and dignified manner. Do NOT go into the defensive attack mode or they will shut you down immediately.
Take someone with you as a witness.
Convince them it was an honest mistake.
I will warn you they will ask about why you needed a routine refill if you had the dentist's Meds. Technically if you had a week of coverage for your teeth then you wouldn't need your routine script for a week longer. Did I explain that clearly enough... Lol.
I'm wondering why your dentist didn't pick up on it. If you provided him with the med info, you could use the innocent approach .
"I didn't realize it because my teeth were hurting and I forgot due to the lack of contract info provided."
Something like that ... Stay calm. Innocent mistake.
If you don't get anywhere, you may want to hire a lawyer.
It will be recorded on a legal document that will follow you. You were not compliant, no details may make it look like you were doctor jumping, selling, etc.
You want the lawyer at that point to clear your name.
If anyone can suggest anything different, please speak up. Always take a witness to these official pain management visits, if possible.
Good luck to you.
It would have been nice if they'd explained the contract to you, but it was really your responsibility to read it before you signed it and to have asked questions if there was something in it that you didn't understand. So I really wouldn't use their not explaining it verbally to you as an excuse. You violated it by not reporting the extra pain medication you received from the dentist to your pain management Dr. You can try having an honest and frank discussion with your pm Dr and explain that your dentist prescribed the additional medication because the type of procedures you were undergoing and the extensive work you had done. Apologize for the mistake in not reporting the additional meds that were prescribed, but do admit the mistake was your responsibility for not reading the contract you signed with him carefully.
DO NOT attempt to place the blame on his nurse or any of his staff. That won't go over well with him. If you're honest with him, and genuine in your apology, he may decide to give you another chance. Good luck!
When I was in a motorcycle accident and had broken bones with torn ligaments and other nasty things, I was in the Emergency Room, and they were wanting to push morphine into me, but I refused, saying "I have a pain contract! I have a pain contract!" LOL
That was SO not necessary. Later, when I spoke with my Pain Management Doctor about the situation, she said that things happen - people are going to have emergencies, and they are going to need pain meds that go above and beyond what we get from our Pain Management Doctors - because what we get from them treats our *existing* condition, not our existing condition PLUS the new pain.
What she said was, if you're in that type of situation, and it's an emergency, go ahead and get the pain management that you need, but inform us immediately. If there is a prescription that is needed to take home, take it home if you cannot reach us. If you can reach us, though, we may want to be the ones who write that prescription to take over the pain management aspect of your care.
Basically, they're not saying that they wouldn't have helped me with the additional pain, they're saying we know how life is, tell us at the first available opportunity, and we'll take over and manage it as soon as medically possible. They don't like too many chefs cooking over the pot, so to speak, because communication can be lost. Unfortunately, what happened with you is that you had a doctor in charge of your pain management, and you allowed another doctor to be in charge of your pain management. :0(
You're all right this has gotten so out of control, And they don't seem to even care about those of us that are in Chronic Pain. It has gotten so crazy, Lot of good answers here but also, in this case, I would have had the dentist call the doctor and try and resolve this due to the amount of dental work that was done. How they can turn us in as drug seekers or treat us that way is beyond me. In no way should this be a political issue. And should never have gotten this bad but sadly it is going to get worse before it gets better. Chuck
Confused in Carolina : Every yr even here in Texas we have to sign them. Also since law changed and made all Hydrocodone products a schedule 2. You also have to go every month right ? Here we have to also use one pharmacy . Honesty is my policy, You were getting pain pills from one Dr. for pain. How old are you ? Pain contract is exactly what it say's.
If you were already getting pain medication it should have taken care of mouth also. Please, I know you are not that naive especially since you said you signed one before. It is a violation & also can & will get you banned. Most Dr.s give you a warning letter also you can go & get a copy of dental records & how often they told you to take it. For instance, you get a script from regular Dr. and it is for 120, take 1 tablet 4 times a day. Now if dentist wrote a script for " Take one every 4 hours for pain, you need to get a copy & show it to your Dr.
There are people who sell, Hunt & Buy. Sorry it is the law. You should have read it, It is hard to believe you would sign a contract w/o reading. So your Dr. is banning you. Get all paper work from Dentist & If you filled it at same pharmacy you may have a chance.
Let me tell you, Have them do a UA or Lab, My Dr. can tell exactly how many you take a day. I am confused on this, mainly because you did not say what pain meds you are getting from your Dr. If different than what Dentist gave you as far as type like Hydrocodone, Oxycodone. Truthfully it seems you took more than your Dr, allowed you should have told him you were getting work done
You say it was over a few month period, your main pain medicine should have taken care f your mouth. I suggest you take all your dentist paper work to Dr. but if you filled at a different pharmacy well I am sorry but they have a word for that. Cannot think what they call it.
Answer this; how many does your Dr, write for ? Also what is it he gives you ? Then how often did dentist tell you to take those ones. Either way Dr, is going to want a answer as to why you did not tell them. I have been there thank goodness my Dr gave me a chance to validate all my reasons. Too many people are selling & also some taking more than needed. You can reply back am willing to help you. I do not stay on here , I help people who are sick & I am usually on FB facebook.com/PatriciaAnslowGreen61. my pages are public. I share for sick kids & also for people in need of donors. i do not mind trying to help anyone as long as honesty comes first. PatG pg763567 oh & they are suppose to give you a copy of the Pain Management contract you signed. Answer my questions, If there is a way t help I will. Just a person who has made mistakes also
There is an online system where they can see all your prescriptions. You can try talking to him again and tell him you are sorry and it will not happen again.
Your only other choice is to find a new doctor and up front explain what happened and that the doctor dropped you as a patient. MAKE SURE TO TELL THEM FIRST THING. These doctors do not like being shopped. It is a trick some use to get more drugs.
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