First of all I want to thank every one for there help over the past month. Well I’m on day 32 of detox and things have improved a little, but I am still dealing with some PAWS symptoms. I have very little energy/motivation and he smallest tasks seem endless. I am also struggling with fogginess and irritability. The best way I have found to explain it is I am living in dysphoria, where as I used to live in euphoria. Any suggestions for these symptoms? Doc has me on Ativan which helps a little, but I can only take a quarter of 1mg pill or I get very drowsy (at night I take 2). Now Doc doesn’t want me to get hooked on Benz opines, so he wants me to see a Physiologist who specializes in addiction therapy. The closest appointment I could get is 3 weeks from now, WTF.
I spend a lot of time researching everything remotely related to opiate addiction. Just a little tip for all of you, don’t believe everything you find on the web. Don’t get me wrong there is some great info there but about half is opinion. Get yourselves to the library and read medical books and journals. This brings me to my question on “Kratom” anybody know anything about it. Is it an opiate and is going to put me back in withdrawal? Is it legal? Is it bull? I’ve read that in Asian countries, they chew it to avoid withdrawing from opium. Sounds good to me.
PAWS/Kratom?
- Asked
- 10 Aug 2010 by Slax18
- Updated
- 13 Aug 2010
- Topics
- opiate dependence, opiate withdrawal
Responses (3)
Could just suggest a web site giving more info on "Karatom": https://www.drugs.com/article/kratom.html, you are right the leaves indeed are as you mention.
Kratom has been traditionally used for its psychoactive properties in Thailand and Malaysia, although it is now illegal in these countries. In Southeast Asia the fresh leaves are commonly chewed, often continuously, by workers or manual laborers seeking a numbing, stimulating effect. Less commonly, the leaves are decocted or extracted into water and then evaporated into a tar that can be swallowed. Kratom is not often smoked due to the active alkaloids being destroyed by the heat.
Please read more on the subject & do let me know if it helped? Thanks, be well & safe!
Hi again slax, PAWS is not a pleasant situation, I am still there. Perhaps you should see a psychiatrist instead of a psycologist? The reason is that a psyciatrist can prescribe something for the dysphoria you are feeling. Maybe you need an anti-depressant for a little while. I took one and it helped greatly, just for a short time.
Euphoria is not a "natural" state to be in, as you know. And trying to find euphoria will lead you to relapse, which I know you know.
I have not heard of Kratom. But let us know what you find out about it!
The benzo's are a good thing for WD, most people will agree with me on this point. Again, a shrink can prescribe those, and slowly wean you off when it is time.
Best wishes to you!
sweetlemon
just wanted to add to what Sweetlmon said:
Euphoria is not suppose to be our constant state. That being said, you said you're taking Ativan. I was taking Ritalin and it set me in ups and downs of euphoria, I eventually relapsed so be careful with that. And yes a short term anti depressant might be helpful. As for Kratom, I'd stay away from it as it's just substituting one substance for another.
Wise advice hipnotikred!!

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Hi Rajive, I posted before I read your response about kratom. Great research sir!!
Thanks Sweetlemon, when the question is difficult its indeed a challenge to research for answers.