... longest I have gone. 40 hours and am going nuts. How fast will I get better. I'm about to start searching the house for the drugs
likely by day 3 the worst has passed. the cravings will likely persist but the misery will subside a bit. try something to help you sleep. amian or whatever. keep fluids in your system. flush, flush, flush it out. have you tried suboxone or subutex. if you were a long term user there are several supplements that definitely help your body to return to normal and recover the the abuse its taken. otherwise its a very slow return to normal heath. sauna, massage, hot bath or shower can help. keep the room dark to help with light sensitvity also. i just stayed in bed blinds closed, water, ambian, before i tried rapid detox after my first relapse, but thats a whole other story.
Leann, you don't need to be prescribed meds to get on subox and I commend you for doing it cold turkey. If you can go to a doc and explain your situation, they would definitely prescribe you subs. However, I commend you for doing it alone - you are a very brave and strong person. If you chose to stick with the thomas method I would definitely add some skullcap and/or holy basil to this recipe which are both herbs. see if you can send someone to a health food store to get a **liquid tincture** of skullcap as this is for anxiety and cravings. holy basil (also in liquid tincture form) will help with the mind racing and energy and sleep problems. You can take 3 full droppers of each up to 6 times a day as needed and I recommend taking both every 4 hours. I am also not a doctor but I have been running a health food store for seven years and addicted to oxys for three and recently quit (20 days ago) and the skullcap and holy basil have helped immensely with the withdrawals, depression and cravings.
Hey guys I am new at this but I can PROUDLY say that my husband and I quit COLD TURKEY and I mean cold turkey no sleeping pills nothing not even for the diahrrea... Ill start by saying if you are REALLY serious about quiting at anymeans than cold turkey is the best way and I mean take some vitamins but thats it!!! My husband and I before we quit were on well anywhere from 1 to 20 oxycottin 80mgs a day. Lets say we would do as many as we could get in a day to where we would throw up cause we were so high and right after go smoke a few more... I thank God that we didnt overdose... So the first step is we moved into my moms house , for a few different reasons one was probably the biggest when ur really ready to quit I would find a place to stay that you havent done the drug at. I noticed when I walked in my house I wanted to get high maybe cause the memorys i dont know exactly why but it helped so much being out of that inviroment.
So we got settled in there and on our second day of being there we said this is it, this is day one... And we also have three small children and I'll tell ya a lil about my mom, shes the type that doesnt belive in taking pills and has NO idea how severe the withdrawl syptoms from oxycotin were, she was thinking it just like coke or the other street drugs besides herion which any of those are a walk in the park compared to what we went through and Im gonna tell you exactly what we went through no sugar coating here... So the first like two days after we quit is when we started to sweat and have signs of anxiety but it was managable and as I mentioned we have three small children 7,5 and 2!! And my mom has OCD so the house has to be sqeaky clean everyday and I mean to were it would take me literally 6 hours everyday k ,then dinner had to be cooked by five, if we wasnt right by are kids side 24/7 we were being bad parents and we had to wake up at 6am everyday... And talk about NO support or sympathy we got NONE!! o and we withdralwed for a month straight and we didnt get better everyday we got worse everyday untill around thirty days than we started getting and feeling better. O and on top of it you have someone (my mom) standing over you all day telling you u need to get up and do something.. I knew this is how she is and we hesitated for a long time if we should move in or not and finally i was like it's worth a try... So for the first week of not sleeping AT ALL, we lost about 20 pounds at a Very unhealthy pace because we barley could eat or drink anything the whole time and hold it down. We had black circles and our eyes were so sunk it I couldnt recongize myself when I looked in the mirror. Our butts were litteraly bleeding after about seven days from the constant diahrrea actually more like peeing out of you butt, it would put me in tears just wipping my butt was sooo raw from having to go all the time... Then you have the anxiety which for me was the worst part of all of it, that and the sweats was what kept us up everynight... It felt like someone had like a wrench or something on my chest just pulling it tighter and tighter and I just kept trying to stretch like I had to loosen it but Nothing worked!! I was sooo weak I couldnt even stand up for more than five minutes without my legs shaking and feeling very dizzy and just weak, I couldnt take showers becasue on I think the 8th day I triend to take one but I was so weak i actually blacked out and hit my head really good on the faucet that I tried to get out of the bath and get my towel and I blacked out again and hit my head on the toilet, thats when my husband heard me and came upstairs and walked me to the bed in the room next to the bathroom, also my husband just blacked out twice, he was just walking through the kitchen both times and just fell over like really hard just face planted it, I seen him do it the second time I was so scarred cause it look like he was having a seziour... And no joke while we are going through all these syptoms there was my mom clean the house, cook dinner, why are the kids not with you take them outside and play with them that took everything we had in us and i mean everything to do those things and finally on like the 15th day we were both laying on her fold out couch and I started balling because of the wds and I was so drained and just out of it I was really scared I was going to die.. I was shaking all the time I couldnt even open my eyes and I was so disoriented that I could barley have a conversation. I asked my mom to take us to the hospital thinking maybe it they hooked us up to an iv and hydrated us we might get enough strength to lift my arm, and every time I begged her and was crying because i was in real fear for our lifes, she s a christian as am I and my husband, so her solution to everything was pray God can take it from you and oooo did I pray and begged 24/7 and i know a big part of us sticking it out and making it through that mountain was God I give all the glory for him because instead of just taking it away or taking something to numb the syptoms he had us go through it all I mean every last drop and feel every single minute of it, and thats the best thing he could have done because say you take suboxen to quit which we tried a lil while before this and trust me its not worth it all your doing is prolonging it... So instead of taking anything we felt every bit of poison we put in our bodies and we deffintally paid for our choice of abbusing and getting addicted to them. And after feeling that EVERYDAY I promise you putting that pill back into my system for that little hour long high than your sick again back on the chase, it became probably the STUPIDEST thing to me ever and I realized how NOTHING is worth going through that and putting my bodie through that again. And I can say that ,God and supporting eachother did it and just saying you know what I choose to put this in my body day after day, o I might cry right now this is really painfull cause I choose to spend all and I mean every cent we had or got even over paying our bills to get high to the point were we lived without water for a few months how fucked up is that I choose to get high over my kids and giving them the neccesities, that is what killed me the most, I choose those over getting foodin the house down to i choose those over paying rent and getting evicted and ending up on the street with my three children and my husband and do you think our proities changed when we were on the streets its makes me sick but no they didnt we made sure we had atleast one to three a day so thats $150.00 a day. You dont know how bad that killed and ripped me up in side because I couldnt just look in my 2 years old eyes and know that she is enough for me to quit! And I couldnt do it that hurt me so bad i tried commiting suicide around ten times or pretty much every night I was in the corner of my room balling... OMG this is really hard for me to talk about and remember becasue out of the whole thing all of it not doing it for my daughter or not having the strength to made me feel like I was garbage and my daughter that deserved a mom and dad that wasnt so high they couldnt or didnt want to do anything or to sick to do anything either way I wasnt there like she sooooo deserved, you wanna know how sad it was I would be puking in the toilet from being to high and my two year old would drop ANYTHING she was doing there was times she literaly woke up out of a dead sleep and she would run to the bathroom and come rub ur back and no matter what she made you feel how much she loved us o she is soo special she is my everything and oo the thing that makes me cry is I would give up ANYTHING for her but it took me two years to give up my addiction for her WTF is that. O I remember I would be wd in bed and she would come lay next to you and rub your face and tell you she loves you all night if thats what it took, and man I would stare in her eyes and start balling and begging her to forgive me for not being the mom I can be and am now and choosing anything thing over her and i would just tell her how much i loved her over and over.O you have no idea and i dont know how to really put this but how good feeling that pain everyday was becasue I knew I was finally doing it and that pain was a reminder of all the pain we went through as a family becasue of our addiction and that it was almost over!!! I'm sorry this is long but I told you I was telling all and honestly this is the first time I have ever wrote or even worked through it since we quit so its really nice for me to get it out there sorry but thank u for letting me.. And I hope you will get something from this.. so around 20 days in we could pull enough energy together to go to church and ooooo that was the best place to be its like when we were there I didnt wd at all and I love my pastor he is soo understanding, my husband and I actually got up infront of the body and came clean and apologized about and for EVERYTHING and they forgave us and so did God, thats another big step is comming clean and i mean completely clean no matter what will happen you cant move on if you cant be honest and pay for the choices you made, and trust me there were a few things that I was scared to say but i did and didnt go to jail.. Than the next step which was like the second biggest step becasue my husbands scrib of oxys and percs were our money source every month and I'm talking around $5,000.00 a month, I wont lie that was hard but we did it! We went to his doctor and i went to support him and he told him I'm done with both of them I quit cold turkey and as soon as he said that his doctor was like WHAT why would u do that exp without talking with me! U never want to quit cold turkey because on how many and for how long we were doing them he said ourwithdrawls could throw us into seizures to kill us and everything in between than get this he tried to write him another script and said i would rather you tapper of these than keep going cold turkey and he made us take a high blood pressure pill right there because our blood pressure was scary high that he even kept us there to watch it. And NO we did not take the script we told him we have came WAY to far to set ourselfs back that it wasnt worth it. And it actually felt really good to let it all go and Im pretty sure we are one if not the only people that have ever came to him and cut themselves off. That deff, made me proud. and the month was really what it took us for us to even start to feel better and everyone was like o its not bad it will be a week tops and I dont know about you but I went through it from start to finish and it was 30 to 32 days litteraly, maybe its diff with each person but honestly every one that told us 5 to 7 days never really quit they just didnt do them for that long than would start again so I dont know I'm just telling you my story. So to close out we did it!!! OMG you have NO idea and I cannot put into words how good it felt to go to bed just because im tired and do it with nothing! and to wake up and have natural energy and be ready and excited for the day not thinking about how am i gonna get high today.. or how good it felt to enjoy our whole day and get out and actually do things and not have to wait till we got a pill to even start our day.. But most of all how good it felt to look and hold my daughter and know that from that day on I was gonna be there for not only her but my two step daughter s and show them what a family is suppost to be like. and to be a good wife working on getting better to my husband... That i love o much and we have been through everything together and made it through the rain now we can enjoy the sun.. And I feel with no doubt that every minute of that pain and suffering was worth it!!! And I would do it all over anyday! So for all of you that dont think your strong enough or are to scared dig down deep and you find that strength you find somthing in your life that is worth going thru it and you stop making excuses and do it!!! Have faith in yourself you'll be suprised of what you can do! And most of all give God all the glory and cry out to him the whole time he knows your pain and he will see you through not another drug like suboxen and honestly whoever invented all these opiods will have to answer one day... I hope God forgives them for being so greedy theyll make something that they know will destroy people, there families and everything they thought they had but hey what do they care they know what they made mmm
I wonder if they take them... You guys can do it just stick to it becasue in the end oooo it is more than worth it and soo rewarding in so many ways!!! k I'll let you go and again I'm sorry its so long but It felt great remembering the pain and happieness and what my husband and i achieved... You guys can do it I hope you got something from my story. God Bless! Todays the day why wait start your new life! xoxoxo Love angel
Dear LeeAnn, It should ease off a bit soon, can you list at least how long you were taking the pain meds. If it was less than a year, you will have a fairly short ( as in a couple of weeks) time of suffering, if it was over a year, a month or so. If you have some benzo tranquilizers or muscle relaxers, that may help with the muscle spasm jerks. The reason that there are so many symptoms of withdrawal is that the body is sending many different type of symptoms to the brain to try and bypass the damaged neurotransmitters to get to the receptor sites so it will send some of its own opiate. The longer someone was on pain meds, the more damaged this brain circuitry is. I know you don't feel like walking right now, but, if you can get out and walk around for 10 minutes in a day or two and then try really hard to keep doing it each day and increase the time by 2 minutes each day, it will lessen the suffering.
It help reboot those damaged neurotransmitters/ and receptor sites and it will release endorphins, which are the feel good chemicals the brain produces. Christine says to take hot baths for the spasms, I can't see where it would hurt. There should have been a journal listed with Thomas's recipe, read that to see how he felt each day after he quit opiates. I have been on suboxone for a couple of years but was lucky enough to taper it down myself. I notice that I have some mild jerking when I am tapering down and getting used to the lower dose. It doesn't last but just a few days with me. If you think you are going to start to relapse, read up on suboxone on this site, the suboxone website, and wikipedia. You can also go to YouTube.com and look up SuboxDoc ( Dr. Jeffrey Junig at Fon Du Lac Psychiatry. He has several videos, a forum, and a website devoted to suboxone. It's just something to consider if you think you may relapse. There are several people who talk of their stories about being on Suboxone on YouTube. One is a guy called Maple1916 or something like that. His is also good. Put suboxone into the search bar there to see if anyone with the name Maple comes up. If you do end up taking a tranquilizer or muscle relaxer, make sure you take just a small amount, don't get carried away. And remember to walk, I swear to you that will help.
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