Thank you to the caring people who answered me... I've been reading as much as I can on the web about the Opana ER and the new Oxycontin OP's. The side effects from both the medications sound almost exactly the same! What the heck is in this crap? Now my husband, who is also disabled like me, and was put on the Opana also when I was, is having some of the same problems I am. Our doctor told us that a 40mg Opana ER was equivilant to a 80mg Oxycontin OC. It sounds like the new Oxycontin OP's are not as strong as the old ones and the poor people that went a head and are taking them are also going through some withdrawal. Their symptoms sound a lot like mine and my husbands. Jeff, my husband, is only on the 20mg Opana ER's and he seems to be doing a lot better than me, even though he is still complaining that he is sick to his stomach. I made the mistake and drank some milk the other night before bed... boy did I regret that! Later I found out that the 40's (which I'm on) can make you lactose intolerant! Something in the dyes I think... I think I'm going to call my doctor on Wednesday, when he's in the slowest office, and talk to him. I can't take another 2 weeks of this or I'll go crazy! My 3 year old granddaughter lives with us, and she doesn't understand why "Nana" can't play with her... until I talk to my doctor, should I just try to take my Percocets and get by on just them?, or should I keep taking the Opana ER with the Percocets and try to just deal with the headaches and feeling like I'd rather be dead!! Any suggestions on how to deal with the withdrawal symtoms till then? I appreciate all your help and kindness... right now I feel like I'm so alone... Jeff just took some anti acid and gas pills... said it helped, but I was told that would make my medicine work even less! Is this true? Thanks for all your help...
This is just my personal opinion, but if the Opana is making you feel that bad, stop taking them and increase the oxycodone until you can see your doctor. I also don't believe the mg's are the equivalent as your doc said. 80mg of OC is stronger than 40mg Opana. But like I said, this is just my opinion. You 2 must be having such a rough time! I'm a chronic pain sufferer too and watch my 4 year old grand daughter often. I know how you are feeling and you have my sympathy, for sure! This OC mess has really gotten bad for people. I wish you the best and good luck with your doc. I did hear that they were still producing the regular OC in the 40mg dosage. Maybe your doc could prescribe 2 every 12 hours or the equivalent of what you were on before?
My best wishes,
If I were you, Id either try the 2 40mg dose like was mentioned or else just try the new 80mg OP. Ive taken them and they seem like they arent as strong but they still work the same for me other than being a little weaker. I still feel the same way as I did when taking the OCs so if they worked for you, I think you would be much better off trying the OPs if you havent already. I dont see how it could possibly be worse than what you are describing with the Opana. Anyway, just my 2 cents on the matter. Do what works for you.
You would need to take 80 mg of the Percocet to equal 80mg of Oxycontin.
I worry about the amount of acetaminophen you would be taking. Check and see what the safe maximum daily dosage is before taking it if you decide to go that route.
Opana is much stronger than Oxycontin in regards to the milligrams needed to get the same relief. I'm sorry but I do not remember the exact dosage equivalents, though I'm sure it's on the Net somewhere.
To counteract stomach problems I have been taking ginger capsules and Probiotics. They are both found at the health food store. Ginger helps nausea, gas, bloating, etc. Probiotics are needed when the good and bad bacteria in your stomach is not balanced as it should be. is Most stomach problems are helped by Probiotics. I take them whenever my stomach is bothering me.
One other thing that is very important to get the most relief from your opioids, (and should help with withdrawals) is eating enough protein. A pain management doctor recommended this so I bought an amino acid complex called Complete Protein. (One could just eat more protein, but it's kind of hard to do when you're not hungry or have stomach pain.) I noticed a huge difference in how well my medicine worked in general. This was some time ago for me, but it could help someone who is not used to eating more protein, and getting more relief.
I too am taking the new Oxycontin OP and I am going through withdrawals. It take a couple hours to start working. Then one minute I have pain coverage (though not nearly as well as before) and the next minute I don't, and start having hot flashes, pain flares that last hours, etc.
I also had horrible stomach pains which seems to be a bit better today after I started the ginger and probiotics.
This new Oxycontin is about 50% as effective as the old Oxy for me.. Plus it only last 5-6 hours for me.
One thought. I had horrible side effects while starting Neurontin. But they went away in about 5 days. The same thing could happen with the side-effects your dealing with. 6 weeks is a fair trial of any medicine unless you simply can not stand it.
Hang in there, I'm in the same boat, except that my doctor won't let me try Opana because he thinks it's too strong, (it's not, one just needs less milligrams than Oxycontin).
I have not previously heard about the intestinal issues. It is my inderstanding that Opana ER is much better, safer and newer (research wise) I do know it is less popular in the street, which makes it less of a risk for theft. Furthermore, it is not quite as dangerous (addictively speaking) unless it is used contrary to the prescribed methods.
well what works for withdrawls is suboxin... it takes the sick feeling away till u get it all figured out,, the opana 40s are the same as oxy 80s.. the ops are garbage.. especially when we are being punished for being sick..they reformulated the meds cause of abuse..they will figure another way or pill.. my pharmacy said everyone is complaining and he is the one that recomended the opanas to me.. he told me people complain the ops are not as strong i was taking 2 instead of 1. well good luck i hope u figure it out...
understand Full well what you are going thru.my Doctor has me on Oxycontin 120 mg 4x daily plus Roxycodone 30mg for breakthrough. I was on MS Contin,Avinza.The Methadone seemed to help.I never wanted to try Oxcontin,because i knew the risks, but when u literally cant move, you would take anything the doctor gives you.I have been on Naprosyn, combined with Zanaflex,and Nuerontin.I didnt like how i felt on Nuerontin so they switched to Lyrica,Dont like that either. But last month after all the bickering about putting me on Oxcontin, Which I was against for a long time, i finally try it and they get the right Dosage down,have been on for at least 4 years, they now want to take me off and put me on Opana Er, Or Embedda.I have never taken either,because I have really studied both.Why should people who are in serious pain have to suffer because people abuse meds they don't need. (They Give You A tox Screen at Pain management, and I always come up as I should, Clean).
I think that Giving severely hurt patients Drug tests is ludicrous, absurd and UN-Constitutional, this is still America.Even if you do have Marijuana or cocaine in your system,its your life, and who are they, they are not Jesus Christ Almighty Himself,all though they act like it.The new OC Op's are not as strong and are now control released.But I would still rather take OC than Opana from what I hear. You have to take them on an empty stomach, they take hours to kick in, they're not as strong,and most doctors will only give you them twice a day. Pain Doctors try to tell you that Opana er is twice maybe three times as strong,Complete lie, for someone who is use to chronic and severe pain for over a decade. I would strongly suggest to your doctor to try you on a trial run for about a weak of Oxycontin, 80 mg 2 to 3 times a day.That is what he claims a 40 mg of Opana is. Argue and demand satisfaction. And if it does not work, ask about Embedda, I have never tried it, But there are some side effects such as its an opiate blocker, apparently for the medicine to work you need to break it in half. Don't take my word research it yourself,i don't know how long or what your tolerance is. My pain MNGMT Doc said they want to take me off of OC because all the abuse, meanwhile with the new OP's you cant break them in half to feel any better even if you grind it down, I have heard.Meanwhile with Opana you can still break it in half or crush and swallow it.(I'm not Recommending this, as I said I have never taken Opana,) and don't abuse my Meds at all.I am just looking for answers like everyone else. The last thing I would try is Ms Contin 100mg or Methadone. or try Roxyodone 30 mg, Its like # Percocet 10 mg without the Acetaminophen. That is sure to work.I hope you got some insight from me, because you answered my question about the Opana Er. Thank You I pray you feel better, I know how hard it can be.I have 2 surgerys and Over a dozen MRI's Catscans, Mylograms, Discograms,Emg's,9 different shots of Epidurals,I have a tens unit,a back brace,and they want to put a Spinal cord stimulator, or Morphine Pump Inside of me, NO THANKS... Good Luck Please let me know.
This is my very 1st post ever. I have read many, but just for the info regarding "personal opinion" to facts. Just wanted to say I'm very sorry to hear what everyone has to go through just to live a decent life with fair to no pain. I think in some way or another, we all have very similar reasons to why we have to take these medications, & without extended research its very hard to know what to do going based on someones opinion unless they are in the medical field to what you are posting about. Anyway, Just wanted to say that I myself am taking oxycodone 30mg(IR) 3x daily for breakthrough pain, and Opana (ER) 30mg 2x daily. Before taking these meds, my new doctor(who changed me to these) for once seemed as though he really wanted to help and get to know me & my background (pain wise). The very 1st ever that didn't seem to push me around and just write a prescription to get me out of the office to see his next patient.
Which made me feel very comfortable.I still see him to this day (its been a 1.5 yrs now). I was taking Kadian(morphine based) until he raised them all the way up to 80mg 2xdaily. When that just didn't seem to work, he put me on Oxycontin ER 30mg. To me, that just didn't seem right & I was in more pain than before but he said they would be stronger so he had to start out on a lower dose that would match. So the next month at my appt I let him know they were not working to just switch me back to the Kadians. He started talking about the newer medicine Opana. He & I were very reluctant to try them at first. He told me the same thing that Ive been reading on other posts, that an Opana 30 ER is equivalent to an Oxycontin 60mg ER. Ive noticed that the newer Oxycontin are gel tablets & dont seem to work as good as the older ones but wanted to take his opinion and try it anyway. Ive since been on the Opana's for 4-5 mo. now & just dont feel like they are working at all. I'm at a stupor & dont know what to do. He said I could either go with Opana 30mg or Oxycontin 60mg (2x daily for either) because they both have the exact same effect. Could anyone let me know if I would be making a mistake changing this. Btw, my oxycodone 30mg, always seem to work wonderfully(probably because they are IR) but he will not go any higher than 3x daily because of the FDA becoming more strict than ever & saying something about not wanting to lose his license (IDK??? ). I just want to be able to live a semi-decent life without my pain & meds taking over everything (which they actually already have). I'm not working anymore & that has really taken a toll on me because I'm 33 and stay at home almost daily. Ive never been so reclusive in my entire life. Hopefully something has to give. I dont like to ask him to keep changing me because then i feel like he thinks I'm acting like an "addict" geez but what can you do. I get tons of shots, cooperate fully, take my meds like I should. I'm only being honest. But feel now that because when I started seeing him, he was new in town, but now he has over 100 new patients, he doesn't take me seriously anymore, just treats me like all the other docs do. *shrugs shoulders* a viscous circle.
Hello, New be here. I have been taking Opana Er 40 MG. for five years, and Opana 10 MG for five years. I have had mostly good luck with them. The only thing that happened is this. I was hit by a truck while walking. I had a head injury and after being on Opana a while I took to much of both these pills at least sixteen times and i told my doctor that i did this . Long story short I had to get My husband to help me make sure I took it correctly anyway what happened when I took to much was I was out of my head. I was talking crazy and like that. I would say stuff like I had lost my book and cannot find it i would trash the house looking for a book I had no Idea the next day about this. And once I blacked out when my doctor gave me Soma to go along with this Opana for those of you who do not know what Soma is, it is a muscle relaxer. A very good one just do not take it with Opana please.
My son said I was just looking straight ahead and not blinking for about fifteen minutes and when I did come to I could barely catch my breath to talk . So I hope this helps someone out there. My husband and I both have been on Pain management for many years now. After I was hit by a truck , I forget how to spell simple four letter words. And believe me I use to be good at saying and spelling four letter words. he he.
Opana ER takes at least 10 days to start working... For some even longer.. If you see a pain doc.. keep on your required dosing or he/she will not write Meds for you. Careful careful!
I too am having side effects but hoping they subside like I don't feel well. A little trouble breathing causing my BP and anxiety to get up. Call asap b4 you change anything. Good luck.
I am very close friends with an orthopedic surgeon. I spoke with him directly & he said that if your getting headaches it could be a few things. 1. Medication could be to strong. Strong opiates like Opana ER & Oxycontin OP's will cause that. 2. The strength could be to strong & that will make you nautious. My Primary Care Physician put me on the Opana ER 40mg q12h bid. I have been on them for a year & have had no problems. You see the oxycontin OP's & Opana ER have been reformulated so they cannot be crushed, cooked, or snorted. If you really have these problems tell your health care provider. But honestly, like I said I've been taking them for serious orthopedic pain from several surgeries for over a year & they are strong enough. I have noticed no difference in the effect & keeps my pain controlled. Hope that helped.
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