i was really bad, doing 400mg of oxy's a day and mixing that with xanax aswell, but for the last few months i have been getting suboxones from friends and such to stay clean, but i keep going back to the drugs when i cant find the suboxones, i have anxiety really bad, thats why i was taking benzo's to begin with. ive been trying to get clean for quite some time now but it seems the withdrawls never end, i was opiate free (minus suboxone 2mg films, 1 a day) for a month, and surely enough im back into withdrawls once i dont have suboxone, so... i dont really know what to do. im finnally getting my own prescription of suboxones, but should i also be trying to get maybe some klonopins for my axiety issues?? i seriously wake up with panic attacks every mourning, sweats and all that. i just figured i would ask what my best course of action would be... i am seeking help and ive been doing alot better lately, but the anxiety and the withdrawls wont go away. i need some advice.
Firstly welcome to the site,i may not be much help with the predicament you are in at the mo but there is alot of people on this site who will be able,you will hear from them later on,i'm not familar with subs so i'm not going to give advice i know nothing about.
Well done on wanting to get clean and you've made a start already,i suffer with anxiety and panic attacks myself so that i can relate to,it really is a horrible thing to have to go through daily,i take xanax and it helps a little but i'm not sure if you can take that when on suboxone or any benzo's for that matter.Its great you're seeking help and that you're doing alot better,have you considered councelling to help along with the suboxone?I know you should'nt stop any of these meds suddenly as it can cause seizures and be more dangerous in the long run.
Take care and i wish you all the best with getting help and the answers you are looking for.
Welcome to drugs.com!! I am with puckiemull on the Sub issue, I really am no expert on them, but there is a member here named pattishan61, please try to read her profile, it should give you some hope, and you really need that at the moment!
Talk to your sub doc about benzo's and Subs, if you are suffering horribly with panic attacks perhaps they can prescribe something for the anxiety.
I've heard that Clonidine (sp?) is great for high BP during WD, and it also helps with anxiety. If you are small and have no BP issues, perhaps not a great idea, yet something to ask your doc about anyway.
Keep posting, we are here to support you,
I feel u on this! its more than a notion but dont by no means do subs while on opiates.i learned the hard way cause i dont like withdrawls & took it too soon.it can send u into shcock amongst otheer things.r u ready to stop?if not save your subs dont do both like 1 week u do pills.clons would be better to takee ifu just have to do anything.some but not all drs dont like for u to do benzos while on subs.this is the very reason why ii cannot see the only dr intown cause i had a panic attack & the er drs said by no means can i just come off xanaxs so the dr got mad & cut me off.he founf out cause its mayo & the drs know every darn thing!i hope this helps be blessed.
You need to be in sufficient withdrawals from the opiates before starting the suboxone. Then after your brain has had time to heal, you have to taper off the Suboxone to prevent withdrawal from it. You can't just stop it cold turkey.
The doctor prescribing the Suboxone should explain all this to you, but just in case you have further quesitons about Suboxone you can call the toll free number at 1 877 suboxone and ask your questions.
Prescribing benzo's with the Suboxone is risky due to central nervous system depression and respiratory distress, so if the doctor will prescribe them, take only the amount prescribed, never any extra.
Hey Friendly, welcome and sorry I am so late to the program. I know that you have previously been on subs without benefit of a doctor, that is ok. Laurie is very correct, you do have to taper. Now I have read many posts here complaining about the films, different symptoms that people who were previously on the tablets did NOT have when they were on the tablets. The films are supposedly 30% stronger, it doesn't sound like it from what people are describing, it seems they might be weaker, or less easy to absorb the bupenorphine from. If you can, get the 2 mg pills when you go to the doctor. from there you will be able to break the subs down to small enough pieces when you taper and not work an algebra equation to do it. I am going to have to say, if you can, stay off the benzo while on subs. The less brain altering chemicals in your brain the better when you are trying to heal it from addiction.
That being said, I know there are exceptions to that rule, many subs doctors will NOT rx a benzo or any other sedating medications to a subs patient or approve them being used. You may have a doctor who will, but don't count on it, and they may drug test you and look for any meds they tell you not to take, so, be careful. Benzos and subs can be a combo that slows the breathing down, and it can actually be fatal, so that is why the doctors are very hesitant to put or approve a person on both. I know you have anxiety, and you may even have a touch of depression, so, have you considered trying a LOW dose of anti depressant to see if that would help. I needed to get back on it when I got down to .25 mgs, I knew that going in and it did help. I took a low dose of generic NON extended release prozac in the beginning of my subs treatment (10 mgs, it helps me more with anxiety) and got off ( stupidly) lost that doctor as he moved, and the new one put me on the extended release, I don't do well on that. I took amitriptyline (12.5 or 25 mgs at night) in the very end of the taper. If you will check my profile story ( click my avatar) I put my taper schedule that worked for me and all tips I used in there to help people. 2 mgs is still too high of a dose to jump off of and not go thru withdrawal. I had none really, maybe some anxiety and depression but to be fair, I have had that off and on my whole life, may not have even been subs related. Do the addiction therapy, it helps so much when you are trying to stay off opiates and keeps you from relapsing. And if you are anxious, there is a blood pressure medication called clonidine that off label is for anxiety and sleep issues from opiate withdrawal and while on subs. Hope this helps. Pattishan
I too had an opiate addiction for 3 years... from a bad accident where I fell down a mountain and had my spine fused in 2 places. I went through detox to come off the opiates and they put me on suboxone for 7 years. I realized my life was being controlled by a substance and I no longer wanted it. I weaned myself down from 24 mg a day to 8 mg a day adn then stopped cold turkey. The withdrawals have been the worst. The pain in my bones, anxiety, nauseau, lack of energy and depression. I thought I could do this on my own but I found an out patient treatment that is prescribing me chlonodine for the withdrawals and nuvigil for energy. I tell you the nuvigil has saved my life. I have been stuck in bed for 2 weeks and if it wasn't for this medicine I think I would still be in hell. The dr said this medicine is too hard to come off on your own so you have to seek help if you are going to fight this! It is truly the devil! Good Luck!
ok so i m very new to this forum, today is day one on 8.2 sub tablets for me i accidently came across this page when i was researching sub. I am a addict noway around it i was in rehab 4 years ago for cocaine addiction. I did stop the coke, but didnt feeel i had a problem with my perc, well here i am ... i was taking 10 to 12 10mg perc a day and when i could get hands on them 30mg roxy oh plus my script for 15 mg roxy. Well last week i decided this has to stop now so i went to my doc (per perscriber) and spilled my guts. I havent been totally sober in more years than i can count and am terrified. im hoping joing this group will help me, i dont know what i m doing so please bear with me
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