... for some advice:) and most of u seem intimately familiar w/ the kidney stone issue. Long story, but I'll try and keep this short. I'm a kidney stone suffer. My first stone was January 25th 2 yrs ago and since then I pass stones every 2-3 weeks. All are 1-3mm in size. And the pain is horrific and by the time my body heals from one stone I start to pass another and the pain cycle starts over again. Every, and I mean every CT I've had, (about 8 CT's the past 2 yrs), has Never caught sight of these calcium oxalate stones and most specialist doctors look at me like I have lobsters crawling out my ears when I tell them I suffer from chronic kidney stone attacks because past paperwork, labs, cts and so on, don't show that I have them or should even be forming them. Thats until I pull out to show them the vial of 2 doz or so kidney stones. One urologist actually had me in tears as I ran out of the exam room because he refused to believe me though I showed him the evidence and had medical records of previous instances. Yeah, its pretty bad that I have to carry around a vial of kidney stones just in case I end up in the er or whatnot and get a doc who refuses to believe me and as u can see, sometimes that doesn't even work! Sorry, venting. Anyhooooooo... Back on track, I'm a female and in my mid 30's and I'm wondering if anyone has heard of cases like mine? Or give me some advice on diet? I have docs telling me not to eat certcertain foods and other docs telling me that I can and should. I know about the citric acid remedy and drinking more water. But I'd LOVE to find something that will help prevent and cushion the blow while I'm passing these stones. Just recently my nephrologist ran some other tests that may imply that I may have hyperparathyroidism. Any advice would be appreciated :)
Wow and owy owy, you just took me back 20 years when I was passing stones like you are now. Definitely a very painful and frustrating issue.
I will tell you what my doctor back then told me and no other doctor has said since as they don't believe that it works (my old doctor was old back then but he was not stupid)
Stop drinking treated water! In other words DO NOT drink tap water or mineral water. No more water with chlorine or floride in it. Buy Reverse Osmosis or Distilled water and make sure that nothing has been added to it afterwards or buy one of those small home units.
Six months after I did this I stopped passing stones and I have only had one bout since and that was 8 years ago. It was my own fault as I didn't want to carry water bottles up 2 flights of stairs so I used tap water for 3 months. Went back to the bottled water in a hurry.
Stop drinking pop and the garbage beverages for awhile but always have your bottled water with you and just drink lots of water to flush your system. That will speed the healing as well as get rid of the residue of the chemicals. Oh yes and cranberry juice does not help with stones.
Take care of you and may you be stone free soon.
You poor girl. Funny, I'm the opposite, they see them on CT but I have of yet to catch one when I screen-mine are 1-3mm as well. Calcium can cause these stones and much of the water in the US is hard which means it has a lot of calcium. If you get white deposits around your faucets, this water can do the very same in your body-it is the calcium that makes these white deposits around faucets. Dont take any supplemental calcium, even your multi-vitamin may have too much calcium. My first stone was during my first pregnancy and I have had them happen a few times since then and they are no fun for certain. Here is some info I found:
Kidney stones form when there is a decrease in urine volume and/or an excess of stone-forming substances in the urine. The most common type of kidney stone contains calcium in combination with either oxalate or phosphate. About 75% of kidney stones are calcium stones. Other chemical compounds that can form stones in the urinary tract include uric acid, magnesium ammonium phosphate (which forms struvite stones; see below), and the amino acid cystine.
Dehydration from reduced fluid intake or strenuous exercise without adequate fluid replacement increases the risk of kidney stones. Obstruction to the flow of urine can also lead to stone formation. In this regard, climate may be a risk factor for kidney stone development, since residents of hot and dry areas are more likely to become dehydrated and susceptible to stone formation.
Kidney stones can also result from infection in the urinary tract; these are known as struvite or infection stones. Metabolic abnormalities, including inherited disorders of metabolism, can alter the composition of the urine and increase an individual's risk of stone formation.
A number of different medical conditions can lead to an increased risk for developing kidney stones:
•Gout results in chronically increased amount of uric acid in the blood and urine and can lead to the formation of uric acid stones.
•Hypercalciuria (high calcium in the urine), another inherited condition, causes stones in more than half of cases. In this condition, too much calcium is absorbed from food and excreted into the urine, where it may form calcium phosphate or calcium oxalate stones.
•Other conditions associated with an increased risk of kidney stones include hyperparathyroidism, kidney diseases such as renal tubular acidosis, and other inherited metabolic conditions, including cystinuria and hyperoxaluria.
•Chronic diseases such as diabetes and high blood pressure (hypertension) are also associated with an increased risk of developing kidney stones.
•People with inflammatory bowel disease are also more likely to develop kidney stones.
•Those who have undergone intestinal bypass or ostomy surgery are also at increased risk for kidney stones.
•Some medications also raise the risk of kidney stones. These medications include some diuretics, calcium-containing antacids, and the protease inhibitor indinavir (Crixivan), a drug used to treat HIV infection.
•Dietary factors and practices may increase the risk of stone formation in susceptible individuals. In particular, inadequate fluid intake predisposes to dehydration, which is a major risk factor for stone formation. Other dietary practices that may increase an individual's risk of forming kidney stones include a high intake of animal protein, a high-salt diet, excessive sugar consumption, excessive vitamin D supplementation, and possible excessive intake of oxalate-containing foods such as spinach. Interestingly, low levels of dietary calcium intake may alter the calcium-oxalate balance and result in the increased excretion of oxalate and a propensity to form oxalate stones.
What is the treatment for kidney stones? How long does it take to pass a kidney stone?
Most kidney stones eventually pass through the urinary tract on their own within 48 hours, with ample fluid intake. Ketorolac (Toradol), an injectable anti-inflammatory drug, and narcotics may be used for pain control when over-the-counter pain control medications are not effective. Intravenous pain medications can be given when nausea and vomiting are present.
Although there are no proven home remedies to dissolve kidney stones, home treatment may be considered for patients who have a known history of kidney stones. Since most kidney stones, given time, will pass through the ureter to the bladder on their own, treatment is directed toward control of symptoms. Home care in this case includes the consumption of plenty of fluids. Ibuprofen (Advil) may be used as an anti-inflammatory medication if there is no contraindication to its use. If further pain medication is needed, stronger narcotic pain medications may be recommended.
There are several factors which influence the ability to pass a stone. These include the size of the person, prior stone passage, prostate enlargement, pregnancy, and the size of the stone. A 4 mm stone has an 80% chance of passage while a 5 mm stone has a 20% chance. Stones larger than 9 mm-10 mm rarely pass without specific treatment.
Some medications have been used to increase the passage rates of kidney stones. These include calcium channel blockers such as nifedipine (Adalat, Procardia, Afeditab, Nifediac) and alpha blockers such as tamsulosin (Flomax). These drugs may be prescribed to some people who have stones that do not rapidly pass through the urinary tract.
For kidney stones that do not pass on their own, a procedure called lithotripsy is often used. In this procedure, shock waves are used to break up a large stone into smaller pieces that can then pass through the urinary system.
Surgical techniques have also been developed to remove kidney stones when other treatment methods are not effective. This may be done through a small incision in the skin (percutaneous nephrolithotomy) or through an instrument known as an ureteroscope passed through the urethra and bladder up into the ureter.
How can kidney stones be prevented?
Rather than having to undergo treatment, it is best to avoid kidney stones in the first place when possible. It can be especially helpful to drink more water, since low fluid intake and dehydration are major risk factors for kidney stone formation.
Depending on the cause of the kidney stones and an individual's medical history, dietary changes or medications are sometimes recommended to decrease the likelihood of developing further kidney stones. If one has passed a stone, it can be particularly helpful to have it analyzed in a laboratory to determine the precise type of stone so specific prevention measures can be considered.
People who have a tendency to form calcium oxalate kidney stones may be advised to limit their consumption of foods high in oxalate, such as spinach, rhubarb, Swiss chard, beets, wheat germ, and peanuts.
As for me, I do have a reverse osmosis system and I drink water only from it or I buy a bottle on occasion. Before the reverse osmosis system I used to drink distilled water. I also try to eat a well balanced diet so I dont need supplements. I do have to take Vitamin D and I have noticed a bit of increase in stone formation since I started the Vit D. Hope this info helps some.
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