I have missed 2 doses now and am already experiencing pretty severe withdrawal. My hands and feet are swollen up like balloons, my stomach is in knots and I can't sleep to save me life. I have to work n the morning and he told me he would, out of the kindness of his heart let me take 2 of his 5mg hydrocodones. I was on 120mg of meth up until the other day. Plllleeeeeeeease tell me that I will somehow find enough relief in these stupid hydro's to be able to make it thru my long shift tomorrow. And before u answer and tell me how hard it's gonna b to just stop going, I already get it. That's not an option. He will not allow me to continue, even to taper off.. Can I find relief in other opiates???
My boyfriend decided that I was not allowed to continue my methadone treatment program?
- 4 Apr 2011 by Jealousi
- 21 September 2011
- sleep disorders, methadone, withdrawal, sleep
Added 11 Apr 2011:
..in the haste of the moment I probably didn't post my question in the fairest light of my boyfriend. He only decided that I could not go anymore bcause I lied to him. He caught me smoking weed after I had to skip 2 days at the clinic, I was just trying to find *some* relief, *somewhere* from these nightmare withdrawal symptoms.. and he's on probation and asked me not to smoke since he could not. I only lied because the last time I told him the truth he got just as mad about me smoking.... Why am I such a horrible person?? I love him, why can't I just quit everything that he thinks that I should?! He's an opiate addict, but he gets a script every month and other than going thru it in the 1st two weeks he's prescribed them. He only buys off the streets once he's done all of his oxy's. He says that if I loved him as much as "I claim to" then I wouldn't b putting all these drugs bfore him. He's right, ya kno..He doesn't put drugs bfore me bcause I don't tell him that he can't do anything.
WAIT!! Since when is it your boyfriend's decision. The 2 5mg hydrocodones is not enough to keep you from withdrawl from the methadone. Methadone withdrawl can be wicked. Put me in the hospital to be honest. Tell your boyfriend that you can't work under these conditions and it isn't his decision to make anyway. Other opiates will help but you were on a high dose of methadone and it will take a comparable amount of another opiate to keep you from withdrawl. The hydrocodones are short acting so they will not keep you going all day with only one dose in the am. Tell your boyfriend to mind his own business and take your methadone as soon as possible is what I think.
Wish I could help further,
Since methadone is such a strong long acting opiates, you would have a very hard time getting the amount and level needed of the shorter acting medication. And you are actually showing some bad withdrawal now, your hands and feet are swollen, not good. Although I am sure your boyfriend thinks he knows what is best for you, he doesn't. He is probably under the impression that methadone is just bad and he doesn't want to think of you needed or using it, but you really are putting yourself in danger by thinking you can switch over to small amounts of short acting opiate, honey, that is not really even going to take the edge off of it. I am not judging you at all, believe me, I have had a controlling bf before, and it is tough to make the decision to leave and to get away from a person like that, but, if you can, when and if you make it to work, call 911 if you are still swelling, or your doctor, and go stay with someone else.
There is even the possibility of seizures from not getting your methadone. Sometimes a post really shakes me up, and yours has. I know how scared you are, and I am not trying to add to it, but the swelling needs to be addressed. I am not sure what type of work you do, but 10 mgs of hydro is not going to put a dent in your withdrawal, plus that is not the way to get off methadone, if it were, the clinic or doctor you are using would wean people off that way. Imagine it like this, and this is going to be an odd analogy, but bear with me, say the brain receptor site is like a one of those seats in a diner at the counter, basically a stool, and the hurricane force of pain would be knocking this stool over, except there is a rather large sumo wrestler sitting there, so it can't, the stool is secure. Now imagine the sumo wrestler gets up, and a toddler is placed on the stool instead, and the hurricane force of pain is still blowing up a gail, would you feel secure that the stool will still be secure, it WON"T be. Even with a couple of toddlers on it, it will be knocked over. If you don't know already, withdrawal symptoms are all attempts by the body to bypass the damaged natural pain relieving system in the brain and trick it in to somehow releasing its own opiate, and it can't because the neurotransmitters aren't working at the moment, it takes a while to reboot them. They are the things in your brain that send a signal to the receptor site, that triggers the release of natural opiate, and when a person takes any opiate long enough to become dependent, they go on vacation and have to be coaxed back into working. The body will keep trying to send signals ( different withdrawal symptoms) to the brain to bypass the neurotransmitters and it will increase the strength of those signals for quite some time, until it either gets the amount of opiate it demands, or ( after weeks off stopping methadone) the neurotransmitters finally fire back up and work. If you start having any symptoms that you feel are medically dangerous, you will need to be stabilized. In a detox clinic, or a hospital, they would be treated with medication and you would be monitored closely by a staff of medical personnel. I am thinking your boyfriend maybe has seen the movie "Black Snake Moan" and he thinks that you will be uncomfortable but safe, and ok in a brief amount of time, but the character in the movie was on heroin, another short acting opiate, not methadone, a long acting medication. That was a movie, and very hollywoodized, not real life. This is your life, and you need some help, if he won't see that, you will have to see it and make the decision for yourself, to get medically stabilized. I am Praying so hard for you, as I am sure others who read this post are. Please get somewhere where you are safe, and let the clinic or doctor stabilize you, this swelling in your hands and feet is not a good thing. God be with you Sweetheart, call a loved one who really cares to help you out of this mess. Patti
Jealousi... Its one thing for him to ask u to quit.marijuana, but quitting methadone cold turkey can kill u. I am only at 70mgs and could not quit cold turkey. There is no way 120 mgs u will physically be able to do this. U r already having w/d's. I am sorry but it will get much worse. I know u r probably in love with this man, but u need to pull up methadone withdrawals on internet and show him he could lose u over this. I wish I could tell u advice to get u thru, but there is none. Trust me I have tried. I want out so bad. Put yourself first. P.M. me if I can help u, or if u just need a friend... your friend Anna... P.S. Can u not go and not tell him? I am all for honesty in a relationship, but this is DEFINITELY an exception.
Like the others who have responded, I am seriously concerned about this boyfriend's need to control you. By stopping the methadone, he is totally disregarding what's in your best interest. A person takes methadone to get OFF other narcotics - and now, with this sudden stop in the methadone, he wants to offer those same narcotics you were trying to stop! This is a very dangerous position he is putting you in. Hon, I've been through more than my share of controlling relationships - I can appreciate how difficult this is for you. But jelousi, this kind of control, taking you away from a program that will help you to overcome your past addiction, is extremely harmful and dangerous. The withdrawal from methadone is a nightmare, and you do not deserve to go through it. Please think out your options. Is it possible for you to get onto suboxone? Only specific doctors can prescribe it, but it's your best bet to get through the methadone withdrawal. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Why are you allowing a boyfriend to tell you how & what to do about tapering from Methadone? That is not the right way! A doctor needs to be consulted. Preferably the one who prescribed it. The dose you were on is pretty high to quit cold trukey. It took me about 6 months to get off 50 mg! Are you taking it for chrontic pain or addiction problems? It really makes a difference, Using hydrocodone isn't the answer either. Please call your doctor today! Just my opion.
they all say the same as i will ,do not let someone control you to the point of getting sick,if you use other opiodes they take alot to match methadone,plus why get started on that road as you will only get a habit from that ,ive come off 100 mg and it sucked,please get help if he cares for you hill stay out of it -talk to a doctor they will tell you the right way,god bless ya
Did you decide what you were going to do,did you speak to a doctor about coming off the methadone properly?I didnt respond to your question as all the responses you got said exactly the same as i would have.I do hope you are ok and you are doing what YOU want to do about comin off,dont be bullied into doing something that willl make you sick,you have to think of yourself and do this carefully.I posted you about the marijuana-that is one thing trying to give up,but now this?You will end up a train wreck if you listen to your boyfriend and what he thinks is best.Hope you spoke to a professional since you posted last,let me know how things are,i'm worried about you,your fella should be supporting you through this,i know he probably thinks he is doing good,but it'll cause you more harm than good.
Take care ,look after yourself,Hope this finds you well
Thanx to everyone for the support and concern. I have been going to the clinic once every other/every two days. I am now at the point where I lost my job bcause of my withdrawal affecting my work and am not able to go to the clinic anymore. Atleast not until I find another job (who knows how long that could be), but I did make the investment with the last of my money to buy 20 8mg suboxone strips from a friend. I will have to utilize these to the fullest to beat this! Any advice on how I should go about it? I had my last dose (110mg) yesterday morning and had only been going every other day or so.. So I have no idea how long to wait until I can take these subs. I kno I'm supposed to wait a full 72 hours but that's only if I've tapered down to 20mg meth.. I hope I don't have to wait longer than that as the one time before I waited 3 days in between dosing I felt like I was dying.
Sorry for not responding, I've felt so depressed and alone since this whole methadone withdrawal thing has hit me.. My man says he's gonna leave me since I can't stop crying. (He, himself has an opiate addiction and his doctor has dissappeared so he's experiencing w/d's) He says he can't stand to b around me bcause I am so depressed and that only escalates my emotional turmoil. I feel as if the whole world has turned against me.. I just want this nightmare to b over so that I can move on with my life..
Here's a link to an excellent thread about using suboxone: https://forum.drugs.com/featured-drugs/suboxone-subutex-therapy-50887.html
This explains exactly HOW and WHEN to go about beginning the subs - as well as how to taper off them. Do NOT take the subs too soon, else you'll bring on precipitated withdrawals, which is needless turmoil. Be sure to use the "COWS" worksheet, to be sure it's the right time to begin.
Awh hun,i'm so happy to hear you're doing so good.Well done on completing the program,i'm sure it must have been tough but you got through it,so proud of you as i'm sure you must be proud of yourself. The hardest part is over and no it wont be easy but you'll get through it,once you got through those awful first few days,you'll get through anything.If andwhen the going gets tough Post me anytime,here to help and listen always.So great to hear possitive news!!
Best of luck and take care
My dear you have a huge problem and it's not just one. Those hydros aren't gonna work and it sounds like you know that. I understand w/d 100% and maybe you posted in annoyance b/c it's a part of w/d. However, your bf has no right to ask TELL you to stop your treatment b/c HE messed up somewhere. If you are abusing your treatment plan then I could understand him coming down on that. It also sounds like he plays your love emotion against you for his control. You need to go to someone you can trust and talk with them. It sounds almost a little abusive. Drugs suck! I don't think anyone with a heart wants to see someone they care for ruining their life,health, or existence with drugs,but a treatment plan is just that. If you have to lie to avoid him getting mad your plane will never take hold and you're wasting your time. Did you seek help b/c your ready and want it ? If so don't be scared out of it.
And if you're grown enough for this life, than your too grown for being told what you can and can't do. Respect yourself and your b/f. Good luck
You wont make it through your shift tomorrow. Go get your methadone, why did you just stop taking it? Atleast its legal. You are on a too higher dose to just stop but getting anything before your shift starts might not be an option for you anyway. You may do it, it will suck but it took me four days before i really went mental when i stopped taking methadone n i was on 150mg. Do what you can. Stay busy most importantly and have some pain meds close by. Good luck to you, hope it works out.
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