... Can't sit for long, can't get out of bed in am, hard to put on shoes, etc. I don't know why. My insurance denied an MRI due to "lack of evidence" that there is anything wrong with me!! My GP wants me to see a Pain Specialist, but I haven't yet because I don't think it's serious enough. Ecspecially when I read posts here on real chronic pain, I feel bad. But I do have pain that surpasses Tylenol or Motrin. If I could get a feel for you out there whether I should pursue this, it would help me. I don't have a lot of money to be bouncing from doc to doc, and I 'm the kind that doesn't go unless I really need to. But this is getting worse. I feel like I should wait. It's guilt is all. What do you all think?
it is a terible situation if the pain is debilitating and the medications you use don't cover it then time will sure help you make up your mind or that's what happened to me, I thought that I would not need stronger pain medication but the pain got worse and worse I guess questions to ask yourself how much does it affect my daily life? am I able to do the things I could a month ago? Pain varies from person to person what may be not bad for you might be way too much for me and vis/versa I just want you to get the best care you can I also understand Insurance best wishes
A pain specialist may help you get to the bottom of what is going on. I had similar symptoms and I have degeneration in my discs and facet joints and a herniation at L4-L5. If you are having pain bad enough that is interfering with your life it needs to be addressed. Don't wait until it gets bad. As with a lot of things, the earlier you get treatment, the better. There are a number of different treatments a pain specialist can do. It is not always just pushing pills at you. Make sure you pick a pain practice that is multi-specialty-one that has different specialty Dr's (physiatrist, chiropractors, psychiatrist, anesthesiologists), physicians assistants/nurse practioners, physical therapists and massage therapy, if you can find one. A lot of practices are going to multi-specialty because pain is so complex and should be approached from different angles.
A pain doc may have more pull with the insurance company to prove you need an MRI too, but actually MRI's are usually not indicated right away. It depends on how long you have had pain and what the pain is like, whether or not you have numbness/tingling etc. All these issues can be dealt with by a pain specialist. They are trained especially in pain management. Not all Dr's are well trained in managing pain, especially chronic pain. That's where your specialist comes in-just like a diabetic seeing an endocrinologist, you see someone specially trained then once you are stable your GP can take over. If he is referring you out that usually means he thinks you need to see someone specially trained in an area he is not. Hope this helps some! The good news is a lot of back pain gets better without the need for surgery or heavy procedures.
Hi Cathleen. When your pain affects your daily life, you MUST get help for it. Sure, there's other members who have bad pain, others with less pain. But that shouldn't play any part in you getting the help you need. Don't feel guilty because others have worse pain. You need both quality and quantity of life because of your kids. Do what you need to to get the help. Keep on fighting that insurance company. Your doctor should be advocating harder for you too.
questions to ask yourself are things so bad that I cannot take care of my family in the way I need to if the answer is yes then that is a red flag that maybe a consult with someone with the ability to Rx you not stronger than you just have to but at least something that will make things better, does distractions such a reading, music help at all? are your activities more limited than they were, go back and ask you doctor to talk with the insurance company sometimes they can get authorization when other things fail I hope in some small way I have been of help, also have you sought out a social worker from the hospital that might help you find a way to get the job done?
if you are working do you have to sit or stand? do you sleep at night? how is the relationship in the family as a whole? I am not trying to be trying to obtain answers to personal questions I am simply trying to get you to take an overall look at eacch situation and see how badly does this affect me when all is said and done you know you are a good person if you can't attend family things arnd be half what you need to be then no matter what you read here then it's you that we are looking at maybe you are not responding and the more time you take the worse things seem to be getting I just care and want the best for you
Cathleen186 whatever you do my mom is 93 she can't hardly move at time her legs when she gets up is so hard for her to get out of bed, I offer to help her reply I will rotate tyleno extra strength and tylenol #3 which the doctor gives her and motrin and then I intend onkeep moving if I don't I will get to where I can't I feel so sorry for her and would do anything to make it easier on her but she says I know what will happen, she takes her scooter and I go with her and she walks at Wal-mart no matter how bad it gets the doctor told me a good while ago that was one of the reasons that she was still going she moved those joints, she can't have knee surgery because of her advanced bone on bone knees her reply to the surgeon when he told her it was too rough for her to go through at her age she said I would rather be able to keep moving than maybe a lot of things that could go wrong,
I know everyone is different maybe if you can just move slowly use a combination of those type drugs and hot water etc maybe it will help reduce some of the inflammation I care about what happens to you
Cathleen you will need to see a pin management doctor then get the MRI to see what is going on with the muscle tightness. You have the begin to see the right doctors for the problem you are having. The pain management doctor may send you for certin tests then the insurance will pay on a suspected diagnosis. As far as insurance goes on the back of your card call member services and ask for the department that handles getting patients to the doctor with their transit system. I live in Philadelphia, pennsylvania and here it is called LegistiCare at 1-877-835-7412 see if they have a location near you. With this company they offer you day passes for every doctors appointment and you have the option of riding with their company cars(like cabs) or vans that will come pick you up at your door. Your Pain management doctor may ask you to take several tests to see what the problem is..
so use the help from the insurance company to get dropped off and picked up-and you call every month to schedule your transportation and you can make it to your appointments this is how I get around until I get another car. I say pursue this and get further help, you should also see a rheumatologists as well along with pain management- they focus on what is happening in your blood causing problems of lupus,anti nucleur antibodies. You would be surprised what a rheumatologist finds in the blood stream that can cause all types of problems I have chronic pain as well since 2005, at this point my doctor is lookin at putting a device in my buttocks, I was against it for years but I want to sit, stand, bend, walk free of pain. So, I am willing to give it a try because I have young children and older children. The pain and stiffness is horrible it is a bad case of sciatic,pelvic,bladder spasms. If you had children those type of pains were like jolts of lightning thats what I have been dealing with for years- I also have interstitial cystitis-- chronic bladder and pelvic pain syndrome... so good luck to you, just get yourself checked out and worked on, I always tell people about aqua therapy--- it really helps with weight loss and it looses up your muscles it really does..I hope you can give it a try--- most hospitals rehabilitation department have the heated pool--- it helped me a lot--it is time for me to go back again for the summer..insurances usually pay for this type of therapy--- remember it is called ... aqua therapy-bring your referral or prescription from your primary doctor or pain management- before he administer a pain medication you should try the water- he may alsogive a pain medication while your attending either way--you will feel the difference in a month -your body becomes a bit flexible--- you do exercises in the water that would be too painful outside of the water like in regular therapy--physical activity so keep me posted cathleen I would like to know how you made out and the decision you made in all this ... your friend vtech10
Sounds alot like me. I had actually found a great pain management doctor, and was using a Butrans 20mg patch, 7.5 mg Lortab 3x a day, Ativan for sleep, and then a TENS unit, plus monthly injections in my back. I was finally(!!) living virtually pain free! But then my husband was honorably but unexpectedly discharged from the Army, and there went my Tricare insurance. Now we're back home, and I have no way to pay for a new dr. I am in so much pain and my boys don't understand why just a few months ago, I was able to play and run around and take them places. It's been 5 months now that I've been off my meds. And it is truly getting worse. I can feel so much wrong in my back now. And the muscle spasms spring up. Some days I wake up in such pain I wish I hadn't woken up. All I can think myself is to go take my self to the ER and just beg for meds, but then how does that look? Not good... even though I need em.
If you have insurance and you've got that referral, then just go. It was the best thing I ever did!! Just wish I still had my program! Living like this is almost not worth living. I miss being a mom and wife. I hate this.
Hi chathleen, GPs tend to send chronic pain suffers to pain clinics/specialist..As a chronic back pain suffer through a car accident in 1991,in my experance, I feel pain clinics are a wast of time & effort.Its just an other merry go round everyone puts you through to wast time and money. A lot of doctors, & specialists today have the opinion that were all just malingers,& they tend to treat us that way from day one, Especially insurance medico legals their the worst ones of all. If you can pay for this MRI get it done, if not call or complain to the insurance ombudsmen if its insurance related .Insurance c's,will denie all liability, & will stoop to any lengths to get out of it, If they can get away with it.They make up their own rules. & they definitely dont want you getting evidence to support the cause of your pain, As its not in their favour $$ wise... Good luck, & Dont give up.
Cathleen, you are describing sciatica pain it sounds like. It can be caused from a stenoisis in the lower back by a ruptured disc or herniated disc. If you're hurting that bad, I would take what you need to. You are a good judge of that. At least until you see your referral. Did they refer you to a neurosurgeon or a neurologist? Sounds like you need a MRI to see what is goin on in your back. I have lived with the leg weakness & pain since 1973 when my first back surgeon screwed me up really bad so I can sympathize with how you are hurting. If you have the pain pills I don't see a problem with taking one to see if it helps you. A muscle relaxer too if you have one. Just my thoughts...
I was in the same boat as you and believe me there are some rough rapids ahead but you can get through this it took me 6 years to find out my problems ms was mine but I realized a few things 1. There are clinics at hospitals that help people without insurace or inadiquite insurance. 2. Human services will help as well they paid for 1 of my mri's. 3 hospitals also have programs that help pay bills that are to hard to afford they can't deny you the worst thing that happens it you can lower your credit score but that is better than pain... keep on trying and you should also know I took so much advil tylenol aleeve any other pain reliever you can think of now they don't wrk at all for me for anything you can o.d on those so watch how much you take but look for resources to help you and keep moving forward hold your head up you will find felief keep on trying litlmomma-
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