I also have autoimmune condition which leaves me with no energy yet the doctor still won't prescribe me anything i need. & my anxiety is through the roof every single day. & I want to tell my Dr that colonopins help me best but I just don't want them to think I'm just wanting drugs. I want them to listen to me & actually prescribe me something that will help. So I guess my biggest question is how does a 23 year old go about this ?
Do many 23 year olds have chronic pain ? I have it bad. My doctor is iffy on prescribing pain meds?
- 11 Aug 2017 by Dustin_M
- 19 Aug 2017
- anxiety, pain, chronic pain, doctor, chronic, prescription, severe pain, energy, autoimmune
Added 13 Aug 2017:
& no I'm not just looking to get prescribed drugs. I haven't been myself in a very long time & I don't like it. Idk why I feel the way I do sometimes. I'm depressed. I can't sleep. Some days I can't eat. I work 60 hours a week easily & on top of that I'm covering the whole southeast with the work I do & we drive everywhere. & guess who always drives bc most of my coworkers either don't have licenses or just don't want to drive. I feel as if I have so much on my back & on my plate at the same time. Like I'm moving forward & making slowly & surely progress but I also get so down at times. I beat myself up when everybody thinks I'm the coolest person since sliced bread. Idk where to go with this bc I could go forever but I just want help. Real, help. Like someone who will actually listen to me & not judge me saying I just want some drugs bc I'm 23. I'm over that. If you're old & mad because I would like some help with my day to day awful pain & aches & extreme anxiety & slight depression & ADD. I haven't even been to a doctor in about 8-10 years & I finally went to see how'd it go & get checked up & they say everything seems bc all they do in a check up in literally check ur temperature & your blood pressure ... like that's really figuring anything out serious you would like to know about. I'm done ranting. Just drove 8 hours straight once again & have to be right back at the work site here in North Carolina at 7 am. Yet I have some older random a** dude on the internet trying to tell me about myself. Others feel free to continue to answer my questions & respectfully please. I'm just a 23 year old that had a very interesting & not so great of a childhood & was never taken seriously so now it's time to do this on my own since I'm an adult
With difficulty; you admit to liking Clonazepam but have not been prescribed it. Most doctors are not stupid and will protect themselves before a patient; especially in this situation where you are seeking a specific drug. How you go about convincing them? I have no idea; older people seem to have an easier time. Sorry.
Do you know why you have chronic pain? I had low vitamin B which caused neuropathy. I've since had vit b injections which have helped, I believe. I wont the really know until it's cold out again. I also have many thyroid symptoms but all tests are normal & on top of that I also have anxiety & depression. Have your vitamin B checked, if it's under 500 that is still in range but will also zap your energy. I go to therapy & see a psychiatrist who does give me klonopin, unfortunately I also need to take adderall when I'm in school also. Many autoimmune problems can cause anxiety/depression if not under control. All of my testing is normal, no one knows why I'm such a mess! I also get trigger point injections for tension headaches, I have knots in my shoulders "just because" of my body structure. At least you have some diagnosis to start with.
I'd recommend seeing a psychiatrist who could decide which type of anxiety meds are best. Some also use antidepressants but unfortunately they don't work for me, I've tried many! Best of luck, I know how bad anxiety sucks. Also, are you by chance on birth control? That can also cause anxiety etc. I'm trying another pill next month. Crossing fingers.
I'm not 23 anymore but I understand the difficulty. I too have autoimmune disease. Had it since my preteen years then got fibromyalgia when I was 15 but went undiagnosed until my late 20's because Dr's didn't want to believe me either. Some antidepressant do help so a psych. Dr. might be helpful also learning about your autoimmune disease and what all symptoms go with it and what meds are typically used to help treat those symptoms can make a big difference. I hope this is helpful.
I'm sorry you are going through this at such a productive time in your life.
It's indirectly your doctor's fault.
The government is responsible for the way things are. The AMA didn't have the guts to go up against them. Now they are making good drugs illegal!
in the 80s they went on a campaign that people dare suffering from untreated pain in hospitals and nursing homes. It's when the pain scale got started and every nurse had to ask pain levels constantly.
They actually determined how many people in nursing homes were "supposedly". They woruld come into these homes and if pain orders were not on the chart it was a point against them.
This is for their Accreditation!
If the number was 61% (based on census) you better have 61% of patients identified. 95 year old dementia patients cannot be started on morphine without serious consequences just because they grimaced while being turned!
It kept a lot of people in jobs. Now the pendulum has swung the other way. Those neuro rats need to stay in business !
Whew ! Thanks for letting me vent !
Back to you :
You don't have to ask for pain pills. Put the burden on the doctor.
First explain your symptoms.
Most important - How is it affecting your life. What don't you do anymore because of the pain. How does it affect your loved ones. Ask him what you are going to do because you cannot take it anymore !
Desperately ask him whee this is all going.
You are his patient and he needs to own your symptoms.
You know those problems listed on your discharge sheet?
If he writes what you complained of then he is responsible to treat that problem. If he doesn't it means he is failing to do his job. Take someone with you as a witness. More importantly, have that person tell him what he has noticed .
If he prescribes, and it doesn't work , do not wait 6 months until your next appointment. Make an appointment because them he is obliged to do something different.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease!
I hope this helps.
Many drs shy away from starting younger people who suffer from chronic pain on narcotics right away because you can become accustomed to one dose, have to have that raised again and again, then be switched to a stronger narcotic and so on. By the time you reach middle age, you're already at maximum doses and medications. That leaves you with no where to go and a lot of life left to live. So they hesitate with the narcotics and try to alleviate things with nonnarcotic meds instead. So even if they appear not to care about your pain, often they're trying to help you deal with chronic pain in the long term. I do wish you the very best of luck in finding relief.
I know about chronic pain, and yes I am one of those old people you say judge you. You should go back and read what you have posted. It sounds like you are the one who is doing what you accuse us of doing.
If you have s question or need help just ask. All the other crap you threw in does not help your case at all.
You can get the help you need, you just need to go about it another way. In recent years Docs went from over prescribing meds, to under. Primary Care docs are not going to want to give you the meds your looking for, specially if your a new patient. You dont mention what your Dx is, but are you sure you have the correct one? They are often misdiagnosed, and not something you can just ignore. First, it might be a good idea to see a specialist (Rheumatologist) to get your AI in check. They can help you with getting the pain under control. You are very young, so long term pain meds aren't a good solution. Your pain is a symptom of whatever is happening to your body... you might be able to address that without pain meds if they figure out what is causing it. Also, someone mentioned a vitamin deficiency.
I have a severe vitamin D deficiency, and it exacerbates my pain like crazy (among other things). Next, you need to see a psychiatrist that can help you. There is nothing wrong with asking for a specific type of medication. Every person is different, and meds affect each of us differently. I have tried several different anxiety meds, and clonopin agrees with my body very well. It helps me relax just enough, so that I can use other coping strategies to process through my anxiety/panic attacks. When I first started getting help for mental health it was overwhelming, and I didnt know how to advocate for myself, but it gets easier. If one doctor wont listen to you, get a new doctor. Medication to treat the depression/anxiety is only a piece of the treatment process, not something one should rely on as a fix. All it does is mask the symptoms. It has taken years of work, but I am able to control my mood disorder without medication. I still need anxiety meds during a bad cycle, but thats not often. Besides going to traditional therapy to process childhood trauma, I did a LOT of reading 'self help' type books to learn about my diagnosis. Educating yourself about what is happening to your body is important!!! It takes away a lot of the fear when you understand what is happening. There is also a fantastic therapy I did called DBT/CBT. I took it in a group setting for a few months, and they they teach you all about what is happening and different ways you can take action to alleviate your symptoms. It changed my life, and gave me a set of tools that I desperately needed. Last, I do a crap load of research. Many of my docs do not listen either. Ive learned to track my symptoms and use that as a point of reference to search for possible dx. Ive had arthritis since I was a child (hereditary, but we werent allowed to see Docs). 2 years ago I realized I had gout, but knew there was also an AI disease. After gobs of research and getting medical history from family I now am fairly certain I have Sjogrens. It has gone untreated for far to long and has destroyed my quality of living. You are young, and have a lot of great years ahead of you! Asking for help is the first step. It takes a lot of work to navigate this journey, but its worth it. Goodluck!!!
Hey, Dustin! Sorry to hear people are jumping to judge you without knowing you well. I know that feeling. I've had pain off and on since I was in my 20's that became permanent, chronic pain in my early 30's. I also have an autoimmune disease (Psoriatic Arthritis) so I can empathize with your situation. For the depression/anxiety/ADHD, it's usually best to see the expert on those subjects to get the right meds prescribed so get a referral to a Psychiatrist (not a therapist,an M D.).
Same with the pain situation- get a referral to a pain management clinic that actually prescribes meds. Ask around in your area or do an internet search. Call around until you find one that does it with a pain management contract for pain meds. Once you ask the question and they say they do, hang up without giving your information. Wait a little while and call back for an appointment or ask your doc to refer you to that clinic/doctor. That way, if you ask the question and hang up, they won't know it's that same person when you call for an appointment, and you don't appear as a "drug seeker". Then. If you sign the contract, follow ALL the rules in the contract. Good luck!
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