I take 2mg/ 2x a day. I've had a few doctors say that they are surprised I'm even awake. I've also been warned of cognitive problems from long-term use and even early on-set of Alzheimer's disease. Has anyone else gotten this response from a doctor??? So far Klonopin has worked great for my panic disorder and I hesitate to discontinue the drug right now.
Taking 2mg twice daily longterm is GUARANTEED to make you addicted. 4mg per day of klonopin is a high dose. NO doubt about it. I used it 25 years and I surely wouldn't want to be you if and when you ever decide to stop using it. Sure it's working good for you. You're physically dependent to it. Stop it for a few days and see what happens. You won't like it I promise. Good luck.
I have been taking 3 to 4 mg per day and was never worried about any addiction potential until I came to these boards. It all depends on how YOUR brain and nervous system work. If you feel that you are overmedicated or that this may not be the right drug for you, talk to your health care provider. I feel normal on my dosage. I will share with you that my partner came home after a really lousy week at work - very frustrated, agitated, and on the verge of losing it, We have a three year old and we did not want her to see Daddy out of control (nor did he want to feel out of control). He took 1 mg and he was sedated. His CNS does not release the hormons/chemicals that result in anxiety that mine do. He could not believe that I could function on 3 mg per day and was worried that it would make me a zombie. Not true in MY case. It has made me more like myself than any other benzo out there. And I don't get freaked out if I'm a few hours past my dosage time, I don't feel addicted, and I have been taking them for 19 months.
I don't think that you would be in for inpatient detox as a certainty. There have been people who have come off o much higher dosages of benzos on an outpatient basis. Will it be fun, probably not at all, but it will be better than the rapid 1-2 week detox they will give you in an inpatient setting, where they will basically give you phenobarbital or depakote to make sure you won't have seizures, then when the chance for that side effect occurring is over, they will let you out, a full-fledged detoxed--yet extremely dependent-on--benzos.
Here, check out this info... it is the most comprehensive information out there involving empirically-based out-patient withdrawal of benzodiazepine-dependent individuals (just add the normal "www" before the following to go to the link:
You will get the best info from there, not some long-term forum poster who has no medical degree whatsoever.
Hope you find this helpful, and good luck with everything.
I was on valium and was changed to klonopin for anxiety. The fast heart beat feelig of heartattack etc... the dr. changed me to klonopin 0.5 twice a day now im worried about withdrawal after reading this. I also have had chest pains for the last4 months now but dont think its caused by the klonopin by reading drugs.com. My pharmacist says klonopin is a better medicine than valium and was glad the dr. switched me any comments please... have a blessed day^^^ I can get thru the day on these...
I was on xanax for 3yrs abused it iam sure u do to hard to admitt i didnt think i was physcically dependent on it but i was i stopped it on fast taper done by hospital had to get on klodopin to be able to function and i dont see y anyone would like this drug makes so i cant think straight and tired iam also on anti celexa doesnt help much my doctor told me celexa good for panic disorder i dont see much difference he also said therapy he told me no drug will really help long term go to www.benzo.org.uk and you will see what klodopin can do to u long term i had short term memory lose, shocks in my head , lose of smell and taste couldnt walk , legs shaky horrible get off while you can dont end up like me do slow taper if i knew what i know now i would do it over best wishes
Before I put my 2 cents, I always look up and read the precise or detailed version of the med in question. I am one of those "forum posters who has no medical degree whatsoever". Please don't take offense to that statement. We all know we aren't doctors here. However, I have been prescribed Klonopin in the past for anxiety. Fortunately, it was prescribed for a situation that was (supposed to be) temporary, and it helped quite a bit. The problem was that I took more than prescribed, couldn't remember a darn thing that had happened, and flushed the meds down the toilet. More recently, I had an accident and shattered my L-1 and L-2 vertebrates. I have horrific muscle spasms (post-op) and was prescribed 10mg valium 3X daily plus pain meds. They do help a lot and I will never abuse them. I copied this information for you...
"The starting dose is 0.25 milligram twice a day. After 3 days, your doctor may increase the dose to 1 milligram daily. Some people need as much as 4 milligrams a day".
Read more: https://www.drugs.com/klonopin.html
Obviously there is much more info I didn't copy. It does mention on the standard Klonopin info page that it should not be used longer than 9 weeks. How do they come up with that info? Why not make it 8 weeks or 10 weeks? But as most people would agree, YOU and your doctor know best. Or at least your doc SHOULD know. If it's possible, rather than trying to find a doctor to agree with you, try to stick with one you trust (may disagree with the dose you are on) and maybe let them get to know you well. You are on the maximum dose recommended. One of the side effects mentioned is memory loss. Since you are on the highest dose, it would make sense you may be susceptible to more of the side effects. But everyone is different. No where did I read it may cause an early onset of Alzheimer Disease.
As far as my "temporary" situation that brought me to Klonopin in the first place, stretched out much longer than anticipated. The valium has worked for the anxiety too. All I can do is wish you the best of good health and luck. Anxiety is an awful state to be in. It causes physical as well as emotional problems in many people. Please be careful with the Klonopin. It is addicting and you are on the strongest dose. You have built up a tolerance to it. At least try to be open minded with your doc. I'm not saying you aren't, only be open to maybe try other techniques or meds that may help bring your level of anxiety down. Easier said than done, for sure! But I sincerely hope you stay safe and try not to worry. At the very least, you have a place to "visit" for support, encouragement, and to vent if needed. There are many excellent listeners here. One of them posted right above me, Nikole. I can't see her post right now, hope I spelled her name right!!
My best wishes,
I am prescribed 3mg of klonopin a day and if you stop cold turkey after taking this for more than a couple of weeks you will definitely get sick. There are many withdrawal symptoms from anxiety to seizures and even death. You must taper off of them very slowly and this may take a few months, but it can be done. Talk with your doctor and if they do not help, go elsewhere, ask any pharmacist..but slow is the key and you'll do okay. I also find a monthly pill container to be very helpful, then i know exactly how many i take a day and not go over. I take only about 1 mg now and at my peek i was taking the full 3mg. I stopped abrubtly and it was horrible, upset stomach, EXTREME paranoia, luckily i was able to get my script refilled and from that point on i've always made a point to take less and less.
You HAD better worry! I stopped 1mg x2 a day and withdrew 4 days later. What hell that was. THANK GOD for the Ashton Manual. It is your ONLY recourse. Nobody knows what to do with Anxiety? I stopped seeing the Doc that first prescribed ( out of rage) and the new one hesitated but then agreed to work with me on the titrate schedule of Dr Ashton.
My anger at the Medical Community for having a prescription pad on their lap and ready to write one, blows me away!!!
I told one Doctor to take the drug and dosage for as little as 4 months,like myself ... and get back to me with their feedback and I only got a raised eyebrow. THEY DON'T KNOW... I am still ticked because I took the medicine course, as I THOUGHT they wanted to know what you are taking to make a decision, to my Gynocologist and she acted like I was a nut case and it confused her how to give me bio identical hormone therapy. She was confrontive and demeaning.
When this, God knows how long process takes, is over, I am done with the Allopathic approach unless absolutely needed and I will have to guide their poor misguided souls if I do!!!
I am already doing herbal and alternative practices that don't get in the way of the titration. In the USA,we as patients are at the mercy of the drug companies and people are getting "hip" to the fact that Doctors only do what the med reps tell them. Dumb Sheep!!! Oh yeah I am still pissed off.
My Doctor is a Saint and brave to work with me on this. Not because she knew but because I brought her the Ashton Schedule as proof of need and bless her heart , she took the plunge!
I was taking the same dosage of Klonopin that you were taking for panic and anxiety. The drug worked for several months, then stopped working. Eventually, your body builds a tolerance to this drug, and in order for it to continue working, you need to continually "up" the dosage. I should note that I was STARTED on 2mg./2X per day. According to my Neurologist, that is a very high dosage. I am now down, as of last night to one mg. at night. My Neurologist told me to drop a mg. for a week. This is a living hell. I was only on the drug for 4 months. Get to a competent doctor and have them wean you VERY slowly off this awful drug!
I take 3-5mg of Klonopin daily for my panic disorder. I have never had any issues with stopping or starting, and some days I don't take any. I've been taking it about two years now. I have a history of addiction as well, alcoholism and drug abuse in my past. That said, just because I don't have serious withdrawal symptoms from discontinuing use, doesn't mean you will not. It can cause very SEVERE withdrawal symptoms, so make sure if you experience them you let your doctor know! I believe you mentioned you have been on 4mg a day for 4 months, if you are having this hard of a time getting off of the medicine after such a short duration you may want to look at non-addictive alternatives such as beta blockers (Inderal) or low doses of trazodone to help control anxiety. I was on both of those in addition to the Klonopin to help control my panic attacks. Talk about not knowing how someone can even walk and talk :p
My VA Hospital shrink prescribes my Klonopin, among other things and she put me on, what she said, was the highest dose recommended, which was 2mg. That was enough to cause an addiction. I got sick of withdrawal symptoms when I ran out and I asked how I could get off of it. She didn't recommend it so wouldn't advise. So I read up about it and I learned that long term use isn't a good idea because it becomes less effective over time, which is super annoying... being addicted to something that doesn't work well anymore. I knew that to be true for me because I had been on that dose for about 6 years and had noticed it wasn't helping much anymore. I decided to wean myself by cutting my pills into fourths and I removed a fourth every couple weeks until I got down to 1mg and couldn't seem to handle any less. I recently ran out and made it two days and almost two nights without withdrawals.
I have never made it a day before without feeling like my skin was crawling with bugs. Since I made it two days, I am hoping that means it is time to wean off of the last 1mg. I take Gabepatin now too but that was prescribed by my regular doctor after sleep studies for RLS, which is what I was prescribed Klonopin for in the first place.
I have been on the same dosage of Klonopin, 2 mg twice a day for over 35 years. Am I dependent, yes. Do I care, no. Does it relieve my freaked out symptoms, yes. Can I taper off, yes. Do I want to taper off, no, when I do, symptoms come back with a vengeance . Will.I be on Klonopin until I die, yes, there is no cure out there for me.
I have every psychiatric diagnosis there is except schizophrenia and sometimes I wonder about that.
I have been sick since i was 13, I'm 56 now. I can still think. If I get Alzheimer disease, Oh just add one more. I don't care. My quality of life would be poop without my psych meds and that's my story. And I'm sticking to it.
Sorry if I sounded abrupt.
Peace and don't tell me what I do and don't need,
Sweet Happy Hippie
I was taken off of 3mg of Klonopin while in the hsp 9 months ago. I went through hell on earth! However, I was on it for 20 years, but I will never take a benzo again. I thought I would never get out of that hsp. Till this day I am still going through crap at times. I would never take a benzo again. I am now on Zyprexa and I hear that is difficult to get off of too... LOUSY! I am not trying to scare anyone... just my experience.
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