... prescription med (like Ambien, Sonata or Rozarem?) I'm speaking of the melatonin type meds that you can get over the counter. Allteril, Sleep and another one, I can't think of it's name ... I didn't know if it would help me transition to sleep?
I would advise you not to. There's a potential for interactions that could make you sick, adversely affect your breathing or create the feeling of a hangover, etc.
Ambien is designed to help you get (or as you say, transition) to sleep. If you are not getting the desired result I would encourage to you talk it over with your Dr. for possible alternatives. Hope this helps.
No, it is not recommended to do so without your Drs approval. It can be dangerous! Most all OTC sleep meds should say not to combine with other CNS depressants and this includes antihistamines, prescription sleeping meds, cold meds, pain pills-anything that can cause drowsiness shouldnt be mixed together because they can potentiate each other. You dont want to go to sleep and not wake up!
Not according to my psychiatrist. You should just get a good sleep aid that helps you fall asleep and also stay asleep. Sonata I had mentioned because it sure does help you fall asleep and is well-tolerated. What I like about it is it doesn't knock you out and leave you with that hung over feeling in the morning. It doesn't have a long life and that is the beauty of it. Some people are fine with sleep once they get there. So it is a good med that helps you get to sleep in the first sleep. The rest is up to you and your body. When I was on a boat load of psych meds including sleep aids... and pain medication for pm doc, I had a full blown "crash" and out I went... passed right out in one of my doctors' office.
Addrenal Insufficiency or Addison's Disease was a pretty nasty thing to have happen to my adrenals because of all of the meds I was taking. I wouldn't recommend mixing stuff up... change them altogether. The sonata will help you transition to sleep. Ativan or Lorazapam is also a good med in a relatively small dose that will help you fall asleep and stay asleep. One half milligram is a nice dose to start with and no hangover in the morning. A good, sound and solid sleep with an easy rise in the morning. You can expect 7-9 hours of sleep with that. I know there are lots out there and every "body" is different. I was on Trazedone and Depakote and the time of my crash... I had a lot going on but the crash almost killed me. I stood up and would fall down. Blood pressure issues and no natural "cortisol" being produced by my body. That was from the adrenal glands. Be very careful, and thoughtful about what you take and why you take it. It is the best way to protect yourself against over-medication and adverse issues you never dreamed possible.
I wish you well and if you have other questions... don't hesitate to ask. Also don't be afraid about asking your doctor questions or your concerns about any or all of your medication and their possible interactions. You would think that you could safely take a natural supplement... NOT SO. Some of them have precautions...
dear Sandra, other have stated the dangers of mixing supplements with rx meds and they are correct. If you are really having a tough time sleeping and would be interested in an rx med, a low dose of amitriptyline really has worked wonders for me. It is taken at night, a low dose would be 10 to 25 mgs, and the only side effect I ever had, was being thirsty at night, I solved that by keeping a drink on my nightstand. If you do wake at night on amitriptlyline, you will go right back to sleep. Somehow it works with the amount of light present. If it is dark, then you will be sleepy or sleep. The morning light will probably wake you for the day. Patti
Yes it is safe, and the reason I say yes is because often, more than one drug is perscribed to help treat insomnia. Being on several at a time is not at all unusual. I believe it will not be effective given as to how weak the OTC drugs for insomnia are to begin with ( Nytol, Sominex) I suggest you talk to your doctor and ask about a combination of drugs for your insomnia. Best to you, pledge
Hi Sandra and also to Pledge if you are reading this,
I rarely mention it but about a year or so ago my psych doc mentioned using L-Tryptophan for sleep. He had previously worked with cocaine addicts who had undergone withdrawl. Apparently cocaine users even after discontinuation of the drug have a terrible problem with sleep.
L-Tryptophan is one of the 20 essential amino acids (body cannot make them) and is a precursor with enzyme transformation into 5-HTP, Melatonin, and Niacin. 5-HTP is converted into Serotonin and is useful because it can cross the blood-brain barrier.
A number of the cocaine addicts responded favorably to the L-Trytophan in mega-doses of around 2000 mg or so. I reluctantly started with 500 mg and worked up to 1000mg but I am always very conservative on the dose of anything I take. I gave up after about 2 months. At that dose and point I would say I had mixed results and often a headache.
This whole process was so empirical, as I really had no guidelines to go by. I eventually dropped it at that 1000 mg dose but I think it might be worth considering at another time.
I would caution anyone trying the L-tryptophan to bear in mind that it should never be used concomitantly with any drug that increases Serotonin. The combination of L-Tryptophan in conjunction with an antidepressant that also elevates Serotonin could lead to an overload of that neurotransmitter and you would end up in what is called Serotonin Crisis which can be deadly.
If you want to experiment with L-Tryptophan, check with your doc first.
I will have to look up Rozarem as that is not a medication I ever gave. Or used myself. As for getting up to go pee, whether you have a chamber pot or not, it is the disturbance of your sleep that is the issue. My docs have told me just don't drink so much close to bedtime but it does not matter. In 5 hours I am up regardless. I even cut way back on caffeine and it didn't make any difference.
I will take my Amitryptilline tonoc and see if it works. I did pretty well with it a few days ago. I will try to space out when I take it.
I am going through the exact same thing you are right now. So far I have tried Ambien, Lunesta, Silenor, and now Restoril. I'm just like you... I'm thinking, what's wrong with me? I don't drink caffeine after a certain time, all the suggestions , however, I have gained alot of knowledge just reading the responses of this question. I know I have to get sleep soon. I'm just not myself when I don't get good rest. I wish you good luck though. Hopefully we will both find a resolution and it will get better down the road. You take care, and best of luck to you. Your friend, Ruthie
I finally researched Rozarem. I remember their commercials now. I mean of course, who doesn't think of Abe Lincoln and a talking beaver when you can't sleep? It was developed by a Japanese company, Takeda. I am surprised they didn't use Godzilla and Rodan.
It is synthetic melatonin. Apparently there isn't enough of the real stuff. But I believe it is more concentrated. Melatonin can be tricky to use and each person needs to experiment how it best works for them. Good luck.
I've always took some sort of over-the-counter, I took them fhe or several years, until I started seeing a psychiatrist, he started meds for insomnia, Ambien, anti-depressants Lunesta... and other meds not mentioned. I'm currently taking Melatonin it helps a lot. There are nights I can't sleep or just plain out don't want to go to bed. I've accepted the fact I have a sleep disorder and just let run its course.
I've learned over the years with experience with insomnia and sleep aides, you can experience nights you just can't relax a lot of times due to worrying, stress, certain medical health conditions.
There are nights I double the dose of my meds, out of desparation (spelling?) hoping the meds would knock me out. What I was doing by doubling the dose... over medicated, which made matters worse it did the opposite.
You have received some great advice. I wish you well.
I am commenting on this post because the other one was getting way too long. I am 62. And I am eternally grateful for my social security. Born just a couple days after the mid-century mark. Do I know anyone who has been to a sleep doc? Yes, I recall that I do and I can tell you the drill as I almost went into a sleep study myself. They will do the following: 1) Test you for sleep apnea 2) Put electrodes on your scalp and monitor your sleep all noc. 3) They will see if you have RLS (restless legs syndrome). 4) The electrode study will tell them if you have sleep onset and/or sleep latency problems. That is how long it takes to get to sleep and if you wake up early and cannot get back to sleep. 5) And there may be a couple new wrinkles since I left nursing I am not aware of.
As for joint replacements I never rule anything out but my goal is to not leave this world with any body parts I didn't start out with. Then someone reminded me I have several crowns and a bridge in my mouth. OK, I get it. I cannot unequivocably state that getting artifiical hip or knee is a bad idea. I have seen both sides of the equation. Some people have had a new lease on life with their hip or knee replacement. Others have had nothing but grief. I do agree that the older you are when you have such a replacement the better because of them going bad.
There is a paradox here as well. In industrial nations that have some form of universal health care, one of the criteria for getting a joint replacement is age and if you are older than say 65 you might not get one. So that flies in the face of the wisdom that you should wait until you are 70 or 75. In any type of health care, money trumps everything else. It just depends on who is paying.
I personally know of an older couple. The wife in her early 70's had a total knee replacement. Complications set in but it had more to do with the anesthesia, and she died a few days later. A few years later he had a total hip replacement and he has never been happier and had no complications.
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