I amnot in a good mood here.I was talking to my therapist and she thinks there might be a possibilty that there may not be a drug out there to help with my depression and i will have to handle it on my own by keeping busy and using cognitive thinking which is what she does or teaches.I don,t i can handle this on my own with no drug that works.Any suggestions out there?I have chronic depression.
Ok, I can understand your position very well, for I am manic depressive and take many meds and have high tolerance levels to all of them... been taking meds for 21 years, so the effect is minimum. And in a way I have learnt through the years, that she is somehow right, not 100% though, without the meds I would be a danger to myself and to society.-
Medications are a must for our conditions, and I want to know why you can not take any meds?
I also suffer from OCD, PTSD, insomnia, paranoia,panic and anxiety attacks, and can become quite aggressive at times ( I do have self control), I am 41 and have learnt a few things.
I take 3 different atypical antipsychotics, benzos, etc, to keep me balanced,
I am more manic.- but also have undergone deep depression periods where I could not get out of bed for six months, and have had manic episodes which have lasted 2 years... so I know a couple of things. I do not have all the answers, no one does " for the ones who believe they do, are the biggest fools on this planet" ... just a thought
I am positive that there must be a medication for you, you need it, we all do, regretfully, I wish we did not, but that is just the way it works (being realistic).-
I want to help you, but you must give more information so I can try.-
Also, get a second, 3rd opinion, whatever it takes. No one owns the absolute truth about anything and also no one has all the answers.
Take care my friend.-
I just recently learned that someone can be clinically depressed and still productive, i.e not just lying in the bed crying. I realized that I have been clinically depressed in the past. I actually respond to very small doses of amitriptyline ( 25 mgs once at night) and 10 mgs of generic Prozac ( not the extended release) once in the morning. I have actually done well on just the amitriptyline. The reason I say this is because doctors are told that this will not lift depression, it did in my case. Only you can be the judge of whether or not you actually feel better mentally or physically on the medication. In my case, walking, which releases endorphins, also played a big role in helping. I know how frustrated you must be. I urge you to get a second opinion, hopefully that won't be an unsurmountable task for you. The B complex vitamins with a zinc supplement also could be helpful. Therapy helps me more long term, meds help me quicker.
The combination with the walking did help in my case. Being upset here in this case is a good thing as it means you are fighting to get better and you refuse to take it lying down. You will find lots of support here and we all need that. I also benefitted from self hypnosis cds that I listened to to help me sleep. Do make sure that you are eating at least some healthy food, make sure you do the things that help keep your body healthy. I think that the preservatives and chemicals in foods can make some mental health issues worse, that is an opinion. If you think nothing else I said will make a difference, at least try the walking for a week. Start slow so you won't get shin splints. You may need to change therapists, you simply may not be working well together. Good Luck, you are in my Prayers.
Please do yourself a huge justice and get another opinion from a professional. Also, I have found this fine group of people here have been more support to me than my local support group. They whine, in this forum I can get answers and talk openly to people who truly understand my issues of depression. Like the others said, it is a sad fact, but if you are depressed for more than 2 weeks, either clinically or cronically, you need meds to help you stay balanced and focused. Depression is an illness that needs treatment continually until it is overcome. Unfortunately for some of us it is a way of life without end.
There is a book (I forgot the name) by an author Maslow that helped me get started out of my black hole. 5 steps.
1. take care of your physical needs, eating, sleeping, exercise and bathing.
2. Make sure you find a place you feel safe and secure.
You need love and belonging if only to yourself, You should try to be comfortable with whoever you are and stop feeling inferior.
4. Work on your self-esteem. Walk away from negativities.
5. By this step you should begin to feel happier.
These came from that book. I wrote them down years ago and still refer back to them because I haven't reached Happiness but I am still working on it. You need to try to break the cycle of unhappiness somehow. The meds will help once they find the right one for you. I may take a few tries but dont give up. And by all means Dont feel bad about feeling bad. We all have to admit to feeling bad sometimes and that is only expressing the truth. I hope it helps you. Tige
hi tdhoiste,it sounds to me like you and your doctor have come to stalemate.if you have tried what he/she has recommended and it either does not work for you or it is just something that you are opposed to trying.a year ago if you told that i could control some of my pain with meditation i would have told you where to go. So if you don't think you can control your depression with things other than medications you can't.it sounds to me like your doctor is dead set on not writing you a prescription.only thing to do is go to another doctor.if he/she has to give you a referral to see another doctor then maybe your doctor will reconsider prescribing you an antidepresent.don't let your doctor or anyone else tell you how to live your life. if you think a doctor is wrong you have to stand your ground. find another doctor for this problem.if this issue causes you stress you must tell your doc... hopes this helps a little... pete.
i feel ya for sure. i went through the wurlpool of pills also, but what i have come to learn is that in todays world people are always looking for the easy way out. "pop a pill" but i have done alot of reaserch on depression pills and i have come to the conclution that they really do more harm then good. i say that because for instance in your situation youve tried everything and nothing has worked, well i hate to say this but taking so many different pills expecally depression meds over time, your symtoms can get alot worse, do to the fact that your brain has become a chemical testing ground, just like mine was. plus it is a FACT that depression meds only work if you a very very very serious case. 80% of people who take these meds it doesnt effect them at all. Its more of a mental knowing that people think they are getting better because they pop a pill, and once they relize its not working docs give you more stuff that you have to pay for AGAIN.
Plus after taking all those meds yours and minds brain doesnt work like it used to, i belive. i also totally agree with you about getting off the meds. I got off them in 2 months it kinda sucks coming off from the withdrawl but your doc can help wein you off. I was on lexapro, adderall, ativan, ambien, and abilify. It was hard but i am so damn happy with myself and it feels great to have my life back. so i wish ya good luck and everything and stay as busy as you can. It works the best. What i do is swim alot and work out and eat fruits and veggies everyday. Just some ideas... Good Luck
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