I have had chronic pain for 3 years now. Taking 60 mg's of hydrocodone and now adding 30 mg's of oxycontin to the mix. my addiction is getting out of control and i want it under control before i get in big trouble, which may be to late, at the rate im taking these meds. I am happy and dont need behavior modification just a boost through the withdrawls ya know. Im ready to face the pain head on and deal with it in other ways. I just dont know enough about suboxone, but what im reading is giving me hope to beat these pills. Question is, how do i get them? are they legal in oregon? can my family m.d. prescibe them? help please befor it is to late.
I dont see why he cant prescribe them... they are used to help people. And im sure what you are trying to do, any Dr in his right mind would want to help. If by small chance they cant, they would refer to some! that could to try and help you get better.
methadone also is supposed to help with addiction bc it gives you what you need without the euphoria effects. it actually says in its description that it is specifically used for detox and for a pain reliever. My dr actually wanted to start me out on Methadone as my !st ER narcotic.
Suboxone doesnt say that its used for Detox, but some people find it easier or like it bc it does have SOME euphoric effects like Vicoden, Oxycodone, Morphine ETC. The euphoric effects arent as much as with most other opiates. It does say in description that its narcotic that is supposed to be easier to stop taking also... I wish you the best of luck! You seem very driven, wise, and strong. I do want to tell you, if you dont know, that you will still experience bad withdrawal with both of these. They moreso help with people that want to get "high", to minimize the "craving".
Hey fatherof 5,
You can learn more about Suboxone which is used for opiate detox by going to the following sites:
At this site you can locate a doctor that prescribes Suboxone by using the doctor locator in the upper right corner. A doctor must be certified in order to prescribe suboxone, so not all doctors can prescribe. I'm sure there is a doctor or facility that prescribes suboxone in your area. Be prepared to ask questions when you call around such as price for the program and follow up appointments for refills, then you will also have the cost of the medication from the pharmacy. Most doctors who prescribe suboxone don't take insurance so worth calling around to inquire.
You can learn abit about the process of using Suboxone by going to:
There is also another member here called Pattishan61 who is very knowledgeable about suboxone and I'm sure she will have more to share when she posts.
Laurie is right, many doctors don't have any idea what suboxone is, even in the ER. Your best bet is to go to suboxone.com and find the doctor locator service and write down all the doctors and call around.and as howw much the induction fee is and how much the office visit is, how often the doctor would require you to come in. You can go to YouTube.com and look up suboxdoc, his videos on suboxone are great and easy to understand. Watch the 2 part video on how suboxone works in the brain. Subs do not normally get a person high, in cases like mine where I was dependent on such a small amount of opiate and given too much subs for my level of use, yes, it can happen, but most people don't feel high, just normal. The induction fee can vary from doctor to doctor as can the office visit. A good subs doctor will require addiction therapy, you will heal more if you do the therapy. Subs run about $8 per pill where I am, but most people only need 1 per day.
You will have to be 24 hours opiate free and in moderate withdrawal to start subs, if there is opiate in the brain, it will cause a terrible condition called precipitated withdrawal, I.e. Really bad wd, to set in. Go to YouTube and watch that video, will explain how it works and suboxdoc has many good vids on subs. Best of luck, pattishan
Thanks you so much for the replies. What a great forum, I am totaly petrified after more info i read last night expressing the negatives of sub... Im trying to cheat the withdrawl and i dont think that is going to happen unless i keep taking them,which is what i dont want to do... What if there was a state of emergency and i wasnt able to get my fefills, how could i tend to my family? i would be screwed... I have allready tried methadone to withdrawl and the withrawl from that is terrible. I was only taking 10mg a day and was high as a kite of it..after 10 days i jumped and was sick as hell... luckily i had a bunch of hydro to keep me functioning except i was having to double my dose to 100Mg to 120mg to feel normal per day for about a week then the methadone was gone... thats where i am now.. weening back down to normal prescribed doses.What im trying to do is plan ahead and see what its like. i have a hip replacement taking [place in Nov.
so there is no point in withrawlinbg from meds until after the surgery... im thinking Jan. of 2012 is when i will be ready... is it possible to be sick for a few days then take a sub to get some reilief in between(to get sleep) and then not take any more for a few days until i cant stand it with out getting hooked on the sub? im more concerned about sub w/d than anything... does anyone have a successfull plan using minimal amount of sub to "cheat w/d" or make it less unpleasant without having to deal with horrible withdrawl from sub? Thanks alot you guys. Im glad im not alone, but im scared as hell...
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