In April, I started on Lamictal and after a month or so reached my therapeutic level, was taking my Klonopin 2 mgs twice a day. I felt like a new woman, happy, not crying all the time, felt like I was at the end of my tunnel and could see light. Now I rarely sleep,and when I do sleep, I have really scary nightmares. Hmmmmm, wonder what to do. Stress does strange things to me so, I try to avoid stressful situations and people. Sleep meds are no longer working and hubby refuses to bop my hard head with a hammer. Here I am, 1:00 am and not the least bit sleepy after taking all sleep inducing meds. Opinions anyone? Suggestions my friends? I need someone to think outside the box on this issue. I've tried everything I can think of, and I ponder problems to distraction.
Hey friends ... I am having my psych issues coming back to haunt me?
- 13 Aug 2012 by Anonymous
- 15 Aug 2012
- klonopin, therapeutic, bipolar disorder, insomnia
Added 15 Aug 2012:
Saw a new psychiatrist yesterday, she listened to my woes, changed psych meds, mumbling why did the other doc do what he did ....? I slept like a baby on 300 mgs of trazadone, WOW, another miracle med, upped my Lamictal to 400 mgs ... we shall see. I suppose I just wanted all that responded to my cry for help that I'm a lot better today. And the struggle continues to manage my disease and emotions. I appreciate all.
dear Laura, one thing that I see you say here, that I think you may not see, is simply avoiding stressful things and people is not enough. Some of the stress that occured before, must be processed. Anytime someone is on "bypass" meds, meaning the med replaces the signal for the brains own signal, I think there can be some clashing of the bypass meds, sometimes you need more meds to fix the side effects of the first meds. This is NOT criticism, I think you are having some of that clashing. I know you need meds, are you willing to try the talk therapy, to help too. This is gonna mean more help is on the way, and maybe you can start feeling better on less meds, then possibly, less side effects and clashing. NOT criticism, but no amount of meds can do the talk therapy for you, you have to do it by yourself. We try to help each other but are no substitute for a licensed professional. And I know it can help, if you'll try it.
I bet you are saying but patti, you are up at 1:20 also, not normal for you. Well, it is 12:20 central daylight time and I am a bit worried about a dental visit tomorrow. I hope you read this post with my nice voice, and not a harsh tone. It is thinking outside the box, it's more than marching to a different drum, it's more like hearing a flute way off in the distance... and realizing its Ian Anderson. I hope you get some sleep, hope I do too. Love ya, patti
Hi laura,patti could be on to something here. I too was having horrible nightmares and thought I was doing something wrong,that was causing them.Turns out that my therapist got to the bottom of what was causing them.I was trying to help a sister of mine who lives in fla and is not doing to well.So it ended up me having to support her but stop trying to save her. Another thought on what your going through could be that your taking your pain meds too close to bed time.I have a cut off time that if I dont take one of my pain meds by I skip it. pain meds will not let you get that REM sleep that we all need to reach or if it does its not long enough for our brains to sift through the mess that is most of our lives.last night we had a lightening storm pass by and when the air pressure drops my knees hurt like a mf.
so I took half a sub at 10:pm,big mistake eventhough it helped with the pain half an hour later the storm was over in an hour and a half then I was up and down all night long. you know smoke a cig,turn on the tv then shut it off try to sleep,up again in an hour start thinking too much,well i'm sure you been there. anyway I hope you do whatever you gotta do to get some good sleep. otherwise your gonna run yourself down.In your last statement you said you ponder problems to distraction,maybe those are the problems you need to work with your therapist on... ps,hope hubbies hammer is a rubber mallet,lol your friend pete
Hello Laura. Take some time away from the site. That might be a reason for your insomnia. If its not, drop the Klonopin, all be you on it for years, I can say its not working as it should. If you prefer not to, go the route of a sleeping benzodiazepine. Or, eventually you will sleep. I spend my hours on two sites. Here and one in Europe. It does catch up with me and eventually sleep.
Laura, you have received good answers from all. I have been having the same issue & don't take antidepressants, but also about everyone I know is having sleep issues right now. Seems sort of strange for eveyone taking different or the same meds to be having the same issue. Hmmm. It's not a full moon, but in our neck of the woods, it's been drizzly for the past few days. I know the barometric pressure can play a part. Don't remember if you have fibromtyalgia or not, but it can be a bear with the barometer, sleep patterns etc... I am thinking this is a blue moon month as the first full was quite early. I don't have that info in front of me, but surely it does influence our lives. Seasons are about to change also, & have noticed for years that also makes a difference in the way we feel & sleep patterns.
I would also suppgest you speak with your physician, & maybe he can come up with a plan. You may be stuck with a bunch of the rest of us for a few more weeks of no sleep. I surely hope not. Pledge had a good idea of getting off the computer. It really keeps the brain in gear. I have a set rule (usually,ha) of no later than 8 PM for computer time. Relax with my pup, & try to settle my brain for sleep in a coupe of hours. A couple of benadryl, xanax, & a glass of milk usually do the trick for me, but I also an suffering from just 2 hours or so of sleep this past week. That's why I don't think you are alone in this at all. I wish you to best & hope you get the needed sleep. Exhaustion will come soon enough & you wil literally just pass out...
I agree with both Patti and Pete. I made a post not too long ago at all, about my severe insomnia. Asking for anyones help or opinion's. I find myself going different directions in my mind when I go for days with no sleep. Pete might very well be onto something about taking pain meds. too close to bedtime. And Patti gave some great advise herself. I had to up my appointment with my psychiatrist to talk about all the stress going on in my life right now. And yes... medicine plays a part in it for me. I need something to help me sleep. I also need someone to let it all out to. I was a mess this morning. My little boys first day at Kindergarden. He did great all morning until we got to the door of his classroom. He started crying... then went into bawling. He was traumatized. My 18 and 21 yr old didn't do this. They were nervous and scared, but not like my little boy today. Talk about stressed out. I had to leave him there bawling. Not letting go of my neck. He looked so scared. I know every parent goes through this, but it was very difficult for me, and I came home, and I can't stop crying. I know it's something every child has to go through, but it broke my heart. I'm having some other issues with my two older boys who live in a different state with their dad. I won't go into it, but theres been alot of drama and my 18 yr old wants to come down here (soon) and live with us. Total shock and unprepaired for this. So I can sympathize with having stresser's in you're life. Maybe this is part of why I'm not sleeping either. But I do think you are a strong person, and are so thick headed... that skillet would only hurt really bad, and you might throb him on the head with it a couple of times. lol. Poor guy wouldn't stand a chance. lol. Just trying to get a smile out of you. I need one. Hang in there, girl. Don't let anything get you too down. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayer's. I truly hope you feel better very soon. This too shall pass. I think. lol. It's a saying I use... but I'm pretty sure it's correct. lol. Try and have as good of day as possible. Ruthie
Have you tried Trazodone for sleep yet? Works wonders for me. I used to be on 100mg years ago to get my sleep patern back. Now I take 25mg just enough to make me sleepy a bit. I will be going off it soon but I know it is there if I need it.
Good luck and take care,
Hello, my friend. I was thinking back and I don't know if you have actually gone through a pain clinic with all the support groups, etc.
One of the most effective ways to release circular thinking and lingering pain is to do meditation. Real meditation, not just relaxation tapes, does some very important things for the body and mind. It develops a healthy back supporting posture, where one becomes stronger, no matter what has weakened one. It calms the mind and one learns how to let go of the swirling thoughts. It produces energy for positive use allowing one to feel refreshed. It increases endorphins. It keeps one present in the now where we actually live thereby stopping rehashing the past. It places us back in control of the mind. Even fifteen minutes can help. It takes lots of practice and one thing we have at two in the morning is time to practice, right? Far easier to fall asleep then and have a quiet night.
We have a leading researcher at the University who works with Tibetan monks, the Dalai Lama and meditators of various experience. This is a well funded project that has demonstrated how the brain changes into a far better structure to process information, brain growth and Endorphin releases. The work is exciting and has caused profound changes of well being in the subjects. Cutting edge science supporting five thousand years of experience, worth a try?
Meds stomp things down. We stomp thoughts down. Just never works. Peace comes when we truly understand that people are flawed and we can't fix them. Our friends help us with that understanding. The critics who punish can be brushed aside as they are deeply damaged and have not learned to love all and show compassion for all -there are no exceptions, no words like hate. Many true and loving people are around us. I know you will be more normal when the meds are fewer and less interactive with each other.
Keep at it. I believe in you. Sweet dreams. Karen
I go to a psychiatrist and a threapist. Had a lot of baggage
to get rid of. The threapist is a specialist in emdr,ifs,tat. I will explain this later for I have a dr's appoinment shortely. I am on several meds. And have never felt better
in my whole life. I agree, one has to have threapy along
with meds. Sandra
To my favorite hippie,
Just wanted to check in with you my friend. As you've already read, it does seem like a bunch of us seem to being having increased problems with our insomnia. Sucks doesn't it? I'm sorry that I can't give you any helpful advice towards medication answers. I took a few sleeping pills several years ago when I was having super bad issues with my migraines. Couldn't stand them or the way I felt the next day. I don't even remember what they were, but I threw them out and decided I'd rather not sleep than take them... very adult of me, don't you think?! At any rate, I've decided to base the current sleepessness on menopause and increased stress over my grandbaby still being at the hospital instead of home with us. He's only been around for a week, but it still feels like I'm missing an important appendage every time I leave the hospital.
Aren't you and your husband in the midst of renovating a house? No matter how excited you are, or how well it's progressing, it's still a stressful situation. Face it girl, people have gotten divorced over renovating one room, much less a whole house!
With that in mind, I'm sending you a restful night's sleep with warm and fuzzy cute bunny dreams! :)
ps. Don't be whacking your hubby over the head in hopes he'll retaliate!
hi laura, sandra here. so u HAVE HAD EMDR. IT DID HELP ME.
WHAT I TAKE FOR SLEEP IS--- TRAZADONE AND KLOSAPIN. I SLEEP VERY WELL. I AM ALSO ON TRAMADOL FOR PAIN. IHAVE HEARD THAT
ONE SHOULD NOT TAKE EFFEXER AND TRAMADOL BECAUSE OF SEIZURES. I HAVE BEEN ON THESE MEDS FOR ONE YR WITH NO TROUBLE.BUT FOLLOW YOUR DR'S ADVICE.
Not sleeping is a terrible problem.
First of all, taper off the Klonopin very sloooowly. If you're like me, I went into severe depressions lowering a .5 mg pill a crumb at a time. But others can go off of it more easily.
I also take Trazodone for my fibromyalgia, but it sure knocks me out. I take 150 mg a night. You might try that one. I sure wish you the best.
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