Hi! I am 35y/o & have been addicted to opiates for the past 5yrs. Abt 1yr ago I found a Dr who put me on 12mg of subs a day, but after 6wks I stopped & started using opiates again. It has been 8 days since I last used, & have been on 4mg of subs a day. I also have ADD, as most my family members do, so my Dr put me on Vyvanse, which really seems to make a difference. My Dr states that addicts need to be on subs for 9-12 months in order for our brains to recover properly. I am a firefighter/paramedic & work 24hr shifts. I was taking abt 10-15 norcs a day & oxy anytime I could get it. My question is, how long does it take my brain to recover from the drug abuse? I def do not want to ever use again. I've followed quite a few threads & wish each & everyone of you the best of luck! Thank you to anyone who could give me advice.
jay44, your at the rite place, we here at dc are family and for some, sole support. i was on percocet 10/325 for about 2 yrs before really realizing i had a horrible problem. with the help of my dr im on a very slow taper. in 1 day, a totall of 5 doses i was taking 160 mgs, sometimes 180, a day. well, ive struggled constantly trying to reduce and taper, became depressed, anxious and panicky. well finally, after struggling at 160 mgs, i am at 130, let me tell you, it seems like it was not gonna come. but its here, and now, i need to get going to taper a little more. i feel the wds, ibbyjibbys and horrible body aches. but it has to be done. not too mention the restless leg and arm syndrome and insomnia.i am at 30mg less then i was at a month ago. my body is now use to this and wants to go up, but i cant, and wont, its time to go down. mabe by about 2.5 mgs off of one of my doses starting today. hope you get thru this, hang in there
Hi Jay and congrats on taking steps to become clean. I had been addicted to pain pills for 4-5 yrs and then on sub for 6 yrs and am currently on day 90 after jumping off sub on 9/11/11! yes, 90 days off everything and never going back!
If you are asking how long it took for me to start feeling normal, I would have to say it was a rough 2 months after I jumped off the sub but now, at 3 months clean of everything I finally feel normal! I am a distance runner and I am told the fact that I run has helped me produce the natural endorphins our brains provide us and if you are (and I am sure you are) physically fit, then you have half the battle won! Keep on exercising!
I am hearing you say you are clean off pain meds and on 4 mgs of sub a day now? Is it your plan to remain on sub or quickly taper off the sub? If you get off the sub, (IF that's your plan) there are ppl here who can help you taper really low without major w/ds. I can't speak for them but I know they will share their stories with you on how long it took to feel better on or after sub.
But for me, it took about 70 days after my last dose of sub to feel my energy levels and emotions and my body to feel strong and "normal", but I had forgotten what normal was after all those years!
So, my friend, be patient with yourself and the path you choose. You can do it! and we are here to help!
you are doing well and the process is slow but keep at it and keep the faith. also runnermom this is for you...
I just friended you. Pup6767 and i have been talking a lot. She has been a tremendous help. I started Roberts tapering plan last week. I did take a big jump because i was taking 8mg a day and i started my tapering at 4 mg. I did well on the 4mg for four days and i am not on my second day at 3mg. I am very scared once i go lower. I have only been on the subs 2 months. I was sober for almost 7 years and went on a 2 week bender and a friend gave me subs in case i went into wd. the truth is i am sure i could of toughed it out. Naturally i stayed on the subs and want totaly off of them. I have been a nanny for 2 years, The little boy is 4 and autistic and the little girl 5. I currently decided to go back to school in the medical field and i also got a job in the field i am going to school for.
I am pretty OCD and get very scared about when i drop down to the lower doses like, 1.25 and so on. I hope that being that i have only been on them 2 months it wont be as bad but id o not know if that is the truth. Robert's taper plan is good but it is a quicker taper and that is what i am looking for. HE told me at anytime if i feel sick or some withdrawl he could adjust and i would feel better instantly but as for now the 3mg is ok. I have 2 more days on that and then i drop a dose. SO basically if all goes well, as it has i drop every 4 days to a lower dose. Pup has been SOOO awesome in helpng me ith all of this and giving me support and encouragment. Again she told me to friend you and maybe we could talk some. Sorry about my spelling i am in a rush but wanted to say something to you. I do hope you get this because we have to be friends first before i can write you a private message. Everyone here on the site is so kind and supporting. I was also in AA for the 7 years of my sobriety and have since stopped going. I will go into more details if we become friend through private message. Look forward to hearing back from you. God bless and have a great day. I need all the support i can get from all right now going through the taper process..
Dear Jay..I also applaud u for taking the steps to become clean and not letting the opiates rule your life as they invariably do. Yes u have come to the right place. Their r plenty of us who r either n the process of weaning from sub or r still on sub as a tool. And that is exactly what suboxone is... a tool. The primary goals of suboxone is to relieve us from the horrible wd symptoms and most importantly to take away the cravings until our brains heal. I was on about the same amount of norcos for 8 yrs or so. I am presently on 2 mg of suboxone. Please read Robert325 post which is n his profile I believe. It is informative. U will c that we don't need to b on that much sub to achieve the primary goals that I just stated. U can also read pattishan's profile on how she weaned. She is also very knowledgable on suboxone. She and Robert r probably the most knowledgeable on the sub subject.
To answer your question... it is different on how quickly we get normal again after opiate use. It has to do with the amount taken and the number of years.
Opiates r up regulating drugs meaning that they constantly produce more receptor sites with continued use. This is why tolerance occurs because all of those extra receptor sites beg to b occupied.
It takes time for our bodies' reticuloendothelial system to reabsorb all of those extra receptor sites. I cannot find a place where it states how long. There is not a neat little chart with a neat little formula. Runnermom gave an excellent post on the importance of rebooting your brain to start producing its own endorphins again. Exercise like running or any type of cardio helps with this. Also just waiting on Father Time to help get rid of those extra receptor sites. Everyone is different. I think that some of the literature suggests 3-6 months. Also very imperative with suboxone as a tool is the tool of addiction counseling. That combined with the suboxone will help u to be successful n your recovery. Please do not leave out that step. If u cannot do addiction counseling for some reason get involved in a good AA twelve step program.
Anyway u have received some wonderful responses from many wonderful members. Bean I am so proud to see u coming here to give other's support. U r doing great. U have helped me a lot also... so thanks!!
So Jay... congrats on your decision to come clean. Come here often to let us know your progress. Also come here for support from our most wonderful group. Welcome!!! I will keep you n my prayers for your success in your journey to sobriety.
All the best to u my friend... and may God Bless you... Pup
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