it just seems like suboxone/subutex has so much more "baggage" than what was first told... Personaly subs make me feel pretty crappy... Dysphoric, if u will... I have a friend that takes methadone for pain, and I have tried it a few times. It never made me feel bad. Not good either. Just "normal." I took it only when I couldn't get anymore opiates, and I felt just fine. with subs, I just feel crappy, and I don't take a big dose, about 2 mg when I do... I'm not good at typing and my mind goes 1000 mph, so i don't ever really get everything down I want to, but anyways just wondering some responses... Thanks- J
You got it down just fine. Why do you take the methadone or the subs? Some people take this very seriously and need the medication. When your ready to face the reality of peoples lives and your own, the answers will be very apparent. Try reading some more of the posts on this site to better understand the severity of taking opiates or subs for something other than what they are prescribed.
Take 'Done every day for a month, then stop, and you tell me, is it so bad? I suggest you run as fast as you can from methadone. And why are you taking your friends pain medication? For kicks? Just to see? You're playing with fire my friend and it's just a matter of time before you get burnt.
Please leave these meds to the people who truly need them. No wonder we have to sign our lives away in triplicate blood just to get the meds that help us!! Yet people like you who dabble, ARE the baggage, not the meds.
Why do you think Methadone isn't so bad? You mean compared to Suboxone? I haven't tried Methadone, but have been on Suboxone for 8 months. I wasn't happy about it, and from what I've read about people on Methadone who are trying to get off, they hate the stuff. They all say things like beware, and also with Sub, lots of stories on this site of people hooked on sub. didn't want to, but got hooked and now having a hard time getting off it. So I'm not sure if I've answered your question, but maybe I didn't understand your question.
Stay away from methadone. I took it for pain but from a clinic because I couldn't find a doctor to prescribe it and my pain doctor cut me off my morphine because he found out I was getting opioids from different
from several different doctors. Yes, I abused them. I took 20-30 a day. A month script lasted a weekend. Then when I couldn't get anymore I started at a methadone clinic for addicts. Read my profile, I kept getting increases in my dosage and it seriously almost killed me, sudden death.
Methadone is hard core, once you start you won't stop. And when you do you will wish you were dead anyway
If the physical withdrawal doesn't kill you the PAWS, (Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome might. That's where I am now. It ended me up in a psych hospital for over a week. But... I knew I had to stop my abuse of narcotics. I found out I had to face the reality of life. The pain pills made everything ok, even good most times.
Now I see what life is really like. It is a rude awakening. But it is what it is. I have to learn to face it, with my pain mind you.
You will someday find yourself very sorry if you play with opioids like I did. Don't let it happen. I relate well to your comments and was there myself. I don't know you but I would not wish drug dependency on anyone. This may all sound harsh but it is the truth. Save yourself before it is to late. Please do not try to alter your truer feelings with narcotics, it WILL catch up with you. God Bless and please, please Take Care. Sable
J-smooth, both methadone and suboxone are long acting opiate replacements and both will be hard to just quit. With short term opiates, like lortab or vicodin, the withdrawal is shorter, with longer acting meds, like methadone and suboxone, if it is improperly or too quickly gotten off of, you will have a longer withdrawal. And people have reported being depressed, anxious, NOT GOOD, or emotionally flatlined on both of these meds as well as plain old opiates. Methadone does get a pretty bad rap, but is the better choice for opiate replacement therapy if the person is going to have pain always. Subs are better for those who want to end the opiate cycle and WON"T have pain long term. It is suggested that people gets addiction therapy while they are being treated with subs, it helps them in all sorts of ways, including, helping prevent relapse. I am wondering if you have ever tried subutex, it DOESN'T have naloxone in it. Some people have problems with the naloxone in subs. I hope this answer helps at least some of your questions.
Do Not Do it I have been on methadone almost 5 years they won't prescibe 2 mg they give 60+ they had me a 5'4" 125 pd female on 125 and it did get me high i just substituted because i didn't want to deal with sobriety. there are medical conditions for pain I can understand I come off in 2 weeks i have fought nearly 2 years to be taken off until i had to begin getting angry. This is not something to be taken lightly you will have liquid handcuffs screw suboxone, methadone them all the withdrawl is horrible If only i could go back and not make that choice to stagnate my life the last 5 years it's horrible for your body and the people you meet there are less than disirable, i only wish i looked into methadone as you are doing before i gave up on myself. As long as you are willing to accept never knowing true sobriety and being addicted to just as lethal drug i wish you the best but if i were u i would go to rehab!!!
Another thing is that Suboxone is a semi-synthetic, partial agonist... whereas, Methadone is a fully synthetic, full agonist. Partial agonists reduce efficacy at receptor site, as opposed to methadone, which has complete agonist efficacy. So, it can be supplemented with other opiates, whereas that cannot be done with Subox (you won't feel it!).
A family member has been on low dose of Methadone (35 mgs) for years & I seem to function much better on Subox. than he does. He seems scattered, unable to finish things, and unable to concentrate for long... it could be something else, but he still acts high, not much energy/nodding in the afternoon & I know he isn't supplementing cuz we're very close. The fully synthetic meds (Mdone) eventually get into every cell in your body, your bones, etc. making it much more difficult/more uncomfortable to detox/withdraw, as far as I'm concerned (just my opinion).
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