it just seems like suboxone/subutex has so much more "baggage" than what was first told... Personaly subs make me feel pretty crappy... Dysphoric, if u will... I have a friend that takes methadone for pain, and I have tried it a few times. It never made me feel bad. Not good either. Just "normal." I took it only when I couldn't get anymore opiates, and I felt just fine. with subs, I just feel crappy, and I don't take a big dose, about 2 mg when I do... I'm not good at typing and my mind goes 1000 mph, so i don't ever really get everything down I want to, but anyways just wondering some responses... Thanks- J