... lean back in his leather chair and say well your needs will take alot of my time and right now I am overextended with my time and patients but I will keep you on my waiting list which should only be 4-6 weeks. I shit you not thats what this guy said and I said so you just wasted my time for nothing and he said no I will keep you in my folder and again I said you wasted my damn time and had tears in my eyes and I stormed out by the time I got out the office into the elevator I was fall on bawling this is the second time in a month I have been turned down by "professionals" because my "case" is extensive and they are overextended. And I told this asshole over the phone as much about me as I could. I am trying to hold it together without completely spriraling head first into a massive depressive episode
Depression - I went to see a new psychiatrist today and I told him my life story only to have him?
- 27 May 2011 by JennyLynn4eva
- 20 August 2011
Added 28 May 2011:
I got a call late last night after I posted this by a psychiatric nurse I called and when I used tonka suggested about saying I was multi service client she said oh I am sorry there is not enough time in our practice to help you and start referring me out. And I had to ask I said please tell me why is that I am having this much difficulty finding a person to do just med. management and she simply said its insurance reasons and asked her how so and she said well we are only allotted 15 mins. to see you and thats not enough time to see someone with many issues.....which I understood and even respect the honesty but I will still frustrated but I remained polite and again I will push on when Tuesday comes around.
Hang on!! This really really sucks. I have never in my life heard of a doctor saying such as thing and I have been to many many psychiatrists. Please do not despair. There are solutions to this dilemma. You are going to have to be proactive now. There are other doctors in your area. When is the psychologist appointment you mentioned? Write me back soon,
I'm so sorry you had to go through that again. That should never had happened to you at all. Yes, there is waiting list to see a professional but you were already there. You would think he would help you right away. Don't give up hope! Most of the psychiatrist are not like that. Call your doctor and tell him right away what happened. You need to be referred to someone again. Don't stop trying it will get better I promise. It's just to find a good psychiatrist. Good luck and take care! Keep us posted o.k.
Hi Jenn - you need to do a little pre-appointment interviewing, emphasizing the big question "Do you currently have room in your practise for a multi-issue client? Ask two times be fore you set an appointment.
Second - Psychiatrists are usually stricktly clinicians - interested in your chemistry and gray matter and how more chemicals can make it all run better. They don't really care about your lifestory, and ARE NOT QUALIFIED to render opinions on your life story.
You need a therapist, seperate from a Psychiatrist. Most Psychiatrists have the soul of a small puny cactus. They go to medical school, not schools which emphasis theories of psychology. Totally different things.
What a jerk! I am so sorry you had to go through that. It is no secret that the psychiatric career field has many who were trying to figure out their own problems and inadequacies. I hope you can cross this idiot off your list and thank the good Lord that you didn't invest any more of your time and energy into supporting his miserable existence on this earth! This guy is wasting precious oxygen just by breathing! I know it is so hard to bare your soul to a new person - and I so wish you didn't have to do it again, but I'm sorry - you do. You need help, and if I had a magic wand I would wave it over you and cure you and make everything better. My heart goes out to you - I hope you can hold things together until you find someone worth YOUR time. You are a worthwhile human being that deserves every moment that you are paying for plus a whole lot more.
There are some good people in the psych field - I will be praying you can find one that will help you put things back together in your life until you are a complete, happy, fulfilled person. But - this starts with you wiping your tears, squaring your shoulders and standing tall and trying again. Hang on to the truth JennyLynn4eva - you are worth someone stopping dead in his tracks and offering you his help - no matter how much of his time it takes - until you are well. Take care of yourself! -
Hello JennyLynn. Well, at least the phychiatrist was up front with you. You know where he stands in regards to his own case loads, and he acknowledged you as an extensive case, that as I understand what you said, will require more attention. Psychiatrists vs patients. or vice versa. I'd like to share a tip, I'll call it that. The drs. in my past have all been just about some of the nicest caring bunch of people you would like to meet. I've had to change them, only because I've moved around the country. One died on me, through his old age! He was a true gentleman. Oh, my tip. and this works, for I've shared it with others. Again, I am not being critical of you, so this is meant to be advice, a tip, and if you don't care to use it, don't :-0) First, I choose an older dr, I'm almost 60, I don't care for a young pup, I go with expierence and usually the older you become, most times the wisdom accompanies it.
When meeting a new psychiatrist, after I do the usual, paperwork, which he/she has, the evaluation/first session. I give on a seperate piece of paper, a list of my past meds, the doses, combinations and so on. I never in that session talk about my life per-say. The dr. might ask, why are you here? or what do you expect from me? I answer simply, keeping pesonal problems, issues out of the conversation. I give my diagnosis, and thats it. No more. That diagnosis is enough, that diagnosis is you, your life, is exactly that. Your medications, go along with that diagnosis. Your very being is on that piece of paper. The ball is then in his/her court. Never, have I had a dr, turn me away. While, in hospitals, of course, in -patient treatment/therapy, drs. come and go, but on the outside, no. And believe me, JennyLynn, I am a complex person. My life is not a rose garden by any means. Gone on a bit, don't give up, you'll find yourself a fine shrink. Its like our medications, hit and miss. And try not to be so upset, it will all work itself out.
That psych was totally unprofessional. I must agree with Tonka on this, they care not about your life, they just care about your symptoms and what they will prescribe for you. Please, try to cheer up if you can, and call your Primary Care Physician and get another referal. Don't give up now.
And like Tonka said, ask on THE PHONE, whether or not a doc can fit you into his/her busy schedule. Also, you might not want to tell any new doc that you've been turned down. Just an intuitive thought.
I wish you the best, and try to keep your chin up girl,
JennyLynn, I totally agree with pledge. You are going to have to calm yourself down somewhat, & don't expect so much. I understand you have a lot of issues, but it sounds like you may intensify situations by getting yourself so upset. No, that doctor did not treat you today, but he was honest with you. You have got to learn not to react to others behavior so viloently because you are only hurting you. He's not upset, you are & rightfully so, but try to think about it if you were in his shoes. Did you cry & beg, & go on & on in his office? Not the right approach at all. Do as pledge says by writing all questions, conditions, & meds down before you go. Hand them this information & keep quiet until you are asked a question. This approach works far better otherwise they may just think you are seeking drugs or something. It's so true. I have worked for many doctors, & that's how they see these situations at times.
They are just human beings too. Don't give up, but don't have so many expectations. If you don't expect something then you can't be disappointed when you don't get it. I was taught this by my big brother a long time ago, & it has worked for me many many times in life. I wish you the best...
Jenny, I hope you were notified and able to read my comment on an earlier question, as well as this response...
As far as advice goes, I think the best options have (almost) been covered. To reiterate, having stuff written down can really reduce the stress of seeing a new doctor and asking questions on the phone may help avoid a similar, negative experience.
Something I didn't see, though, was the suggestion of Googling your prospective doctor's name and just seeing what you find. Some doctors don't have much info online while others have info, reviews, and more (on sites such as healthgrades.com or vitals.com). Doing a little research can often tell you a lot about what to expect and sometimes clue you in that a doctor may not be a good fit for you (if there are other options). Just be sure to keep an open mind no matter what you find (people can be mean, or even too nice!)
Other than that, I just wanted to let you know that, although you have you weak moments (as we all do), I really do admire your strength. I'm convinced that you will be able to do what you need to do and accomplish the task at hand.
I wish you the best. You can do this!
Hey jennylynn, how's it going? There are some great suggestions here, which I totally agree with. It's true, psychiatrists are not at all interested in your life problems, they concentrate totally on prescribing medication, and once you get as far as you can on one they switch you to another. I was brought up in the UK and when my problems started spent months on waiting lists to see social security psychiatrists, who would give me 10-15 minutes of their time, and i would come out worse than ever. recently they even say to me they have to cover their backs, a lot of docs are being sued for being prescribed benzos eyc with no warning of addiction or side effects (as was my case 30 years ago, and am still on them today!).. When I paid huge sums of money to go privately then i got to see someone within a couple of weeks, but the next visit-at the same price-i saw one of his subordinates, which did nothing for continuity.
So, hunt around, as has been suggested, also it really is a very good idea to write down your history on no more than 1 side of A4 before you visit, it can save a lot of time (and money). In my view, the best help I've had is from cognitive therapy psychologists, who, yes, have asked me questions about my past and my feelings in the present, with no talk of medication. The workload on all these professionals is tremendous, and, I've found there's little time for those of us hooked on benzos and anti-depressants, all the funding, the group therapy, is given to those on hard drugs, which I'm not knocking, but we seem to be the forgotten generation. I know it's regular therapy that I need, that most of us need, but it simply isn't available now, so all I do at the moment is get my repeat prescriptions and soldier on in the hope that the time will come when help is available and my work/social life will also be more stable and allow me to see light at the end of what still is a very long tunnel.
Sorry for going on, but as you can see there are many of us in the same boat. All good wishes to you. Take care.
Wow jenny the exact same thing happened to me and this was 22 years ago .I completely understand your frustration .Please don't let it turn you away from doctors as it did me .After this happened to me I told myself there was no way in hell I would ever "spill my guts" to another doctor .And here I am at 43 years old still dealing with the same issues .My advice would be to see a therapist if you arent already and have them recommend a psychiatrist whom can prescribe you the meds that you will need .If your insurance will allow that is . That way maybe the talk therapy will help and you wont need more then the 15 min allowable at the psych .This is just a thought .
I have no idea how they are going to get around the 15 minute allowable otherwise .This seems like a very short amount of time to work on anything .Whatever you do ,DON'T take this personal ,its just beurocratic bull and has nothing to do with you as a individual .I have to commend you ,you are much stronger then you think ,to take this kind of "rejection" and to keep trying takes guts.You have more then I did .Hang in there hun it will get better as long as you keep trying.Please let me know how you are doing :)
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