So I eat more Salmon then I use to as a kid... but yet I am still dealing with major depression after 9 1/2 months of losing my father whom i was very close to. I have been dealing with depression ever since i was in 4th grade. and I'm 33 now. I feel like nothing i have taken or even bothered to take has helped it.
How can Cymbalta really help with Depression and can just eating Omega 3 fat help with it too?
- 28 Jul 2015 by YLthefuss82
- 28 July 2015
- cymbalta, depression, anxiety, generalized anxiety disorder, major depressive disorder, omega-3, grief
Added 28 Jul 2015:
what more can i do to stabilize myself to feel normal?
Sorry to hear of your major loss. Grieving is a process that takes time, but you mention having depression since 4th grade. Cymbalta helps your brain chemistry by affecting two brain chemicals called seotonin and norepinephrine. When these chemicals are not at the right levels between your brain cells depression can occur. Bottom line, an antidepressant such as Cymbalta may well be necessary. Omega 3 and 6 are good for us and along with adequate amounts of Vitamin D have been shown to help with depression.
Something I've learned recently is that I was taking Omega 3 fatty acids to help my depression, but I wasn't taking the parts of Omega 3 that are important. My doctor instructed me to try to find an Omega 3 bottle with as much EPA and DHA as possible, as those 2 things are important to be in there (the Omega 3 I had been taking had neither of those at all).
I purchased super-high quality, arctic fish, naturally harvested, pharmaceutical grade with 800mg EPA and 600mg DHA. The daily intake was 2 per day. This was literally the highest formulation I could find in the places I was looking, and I knew I was getting good, quality product. I brought in a photocopy of the label to my next doctors' appointment.
My doctor consulted a study that was done by The Mayo Clinic on using Omega 3 specifically for depression, and the recommended dose was somewhere higher than a daily dose of the one I bought, and lower than two doses, so she recommended that I take two doses per day; again, with the EPA and DHA being the important factors.
I was really shocked, because not only had I been taking Omega 3 to help my depression for ages that not only didn't have the EPA and DHA in it, but when I did purchase what seemed like the highest dose I could find, I had to up it from there to reach the levels in the study that were found to provide results!
I honestly can't say that it helped or didn't help, because I'm concurrently starting another new medication right along with it, and I am getting positive results, so who can say which one is playing which part.
As for how can Cymbalta really help with Depression... have you ever tried an SSRI before? If so, and you didn't get results, Cymbalta might be different for you. SSRI's work on serotonin, and Cymbalta is in a different class of antidepressants called "atypical", instead. It is an SNRI instead of SSRI, the S switches from serotonin into N for norepinephrine. We have 3 neurotransmitters in our brain that may affect happiness/depression, and they are serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine.
For 25 years of my life, doctors gave me one serotonin-acting drug after another, and nothing worked. Then, they switched me to Cymbalta, which is a norepinephrine-acting drug, and I did have positive benefits, as well as necessary pain relief from injury causing nerve damage. Yet I still wasn't happy with my base-line, and I did research and learned about dopamine, and switched to a drug that works on dopamine and norepinephrine, and I was finally a different person.
So, if you feel like nothing has ever helped, do not lose hope, as you have likely not tried everything, and you may simply need to step outside the boundary you are in, and discuss atypical antidepressants with your doctor. Starting with Cymbalta, it sounds as though that is exactly what is already happening.
You and I are very alike. I also had clinical depression starting in grade school, and I really bottomed out following the death of my father. That has now been 6 years ago, and I think I only started to really be okay within the last 2 years. Try to have a plan in place for the anniversary, because it's not right for you to go through that stress without having friends and/or family around to support you, even if you feel like withdrawing, which is what I did.
You deserve to spend your next 50 years happy, fulfilled, motivated, and in a completely different state from what has drawn you down for the first 33. There are solutions for you. Something will click, but you have to be vocal. Don't just let yourself stay on something for years if it's not giving you the intended effect (like I did). You have the right to ask for something more. You never know what will happen or cross your path.
I stayed with the same doctor, only switching medications four times in 10 years, and then he retired. I was in a panic. I got a recommendation for someone said to be "the best doctor" in my town, and during the first visit, she said enough is enough, let's get to the DNA of this. She swabbed my mouth, sent it in for genetics testing, and the results were startling. I carry genetic markers that make me metabolize the antidepressants too quickly that hadn't worked all those years, and the only way I could have changed that is to have taken MUCH higher doses. Essentially, they were poorly-matched drugs for my genetic makeup.
We got to the first and only antidepressant that HAD actually started working really well, but just hadn't gone all the way, and sure enough, it was in the "safe" category - a total of three separated out from dozens. Most helpful, it gave suggestions on adjunct therapies that might be effective for adding to one of those three antidepressants - one of which was the Omega 3 - the other was a specific mood stabilizer called out by name to match my genetic profile. It's one that is typically prescribed for epilepsy or bipolar patients, but is prescribed off-label for major depressive disorder, anxiety and PTSD, of which I have all three. I didn't care WHAT stigma came with taking a bipolar medication - I wanted to feel better. I had instant, light-bulb results. I came in for a follow-up visit after 2 weeks, and I said "I don't know... is this all in my head? Could it really have worked that fast? Within 48 hours? I felt, for a few days, like 'so THIS is what it's like to be everyone else!' and then it faded away a little bit." She said "It's not in your head. It's your genetics. Now let's get down to business. I gave you a pediatric dose."
I don't think everyone has to run out there and get a genetics test - and many people or doctors might think it is pseudo-science. My test was done for free (insurance paid for it), though it is very expensive, so it is not the kind of thing that can just be whipped up by any doctor on a whim. My point is, if something isn't working, there's a reason - trust your body, you know it better than anyone else does - communicate your feelings well. And I am confident that you will get there.
I keep a daily mood disorder chart with check boxes that monitor anxiety levels, energy, self-esteem, anger, hours of sleep, illness, etc. It charts everything so you can see patterns develop. Yes, it's a pain to fill in, especially when you're feeling depressed, but at the same time, when you have something to actually SHOW the doctor, it's compelling, and they are more willing to take an active role in your case as they know you are also taking it seriously.
I am truly sorry for your loss. There really are no words to convey the compassion - but you know how it is - once you've gone through it yourself, you instantly know how it is and develop an empathy for those going through similar circumstances. I hope you feel well soon.
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