Was introduced to tabs in 1989, back when they only made 7.5 lortab. I was 8 yrs old and had the flu; grandma was with me and said take it. For three hours I felt flu free, I asked her for another, felt flu free for 3 hrs. The third one she have me I was in love, it got me high. Had a great job at Ford making 30$ an hour was buying 20 tabs a day. So I went to methadone clinic( dont ever) I was on 80mg for 3 months.it did nothing for pain so I quit at home. First day was fine. day 2-10 I wAs in my bathtub no sleep. 10 th day my stockpile of tabs worked, so I was full fledged back. I finally got these butrans Wow, my psychorotist wrote me them. I said another kind of saboxone. No it is unbelievable. You know they help so I will stop babbling; here, is my concern: my( Free testosterone level is 6.9pg/ml. Normal is 8.7-25.1 pg/ml. I'm 31 used steroids for three years, and I can't get an erection, girlfriend says its patch. What do you think. Endocrinologist appt is July 9. I also take 6mg Klonopin a day, Viagra 100mg 6 a month.i also bought a Woodstone from a Jamaican and it helps a little( it makes you erect but you can not climax, it's for her pleasure, look it up and it works. 80 mg adderral and the patch. PleAse help I will leave her for this patch!! Thanks Dallas Texas. But I'm a UK Wildcat fan from Ky
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I'm assuming you stopped getting an erection with starting the patch?
Other meds.. like Klonopin which depress the system also could have sexual interference. A lot of what you take can cause the problem. I do know this:
If you masturbate you will not perform as well as you would if you wait. Over the counter pills work just as good.. if not better, I speak from experience. Blue steel and a few others are 150% better than Viagra. If you take Viagra a lot it will not work as well over time. Your best bet is to switch it up.
Pain medication in any form can cause or lead to disfunction.
If you want to stay in this relationship I would talk to your doctor and fiddle around with the dose a bit. If not well like you said bail! Sounds like she cares enough to fuss and sex is a vital part of any intimate relationship. If she sees that you are trying I'm sure she will let up.
Whenever I hear of any activity that makes it harder on legitimate chronic pain patients (like you document here) I can't help but fume. Many of us are having an increasingly hard time because of this illegal traffic you support. So for me, I have no sympathy or compassion for you or your sex life. Good luck to you and whatever you do, don't get busted, if you do you'll have no problems finding sex in prison (and you won't even need an erection)
As Patiently Waiting said, you take several meds that can all contribute to ED. You didn't mention if you smoke tobacco because that's 1 of the biggest erection killers there is. When Sub 1st came out and most people were on 16 - 24 mg a day, we guys were having almost an epidemic of ED. But then some men discovered if we brought the dose down to 8 mg or less, the erections came back. Especially in you young men. So while I am not saying the Butrans isn't contributing to this, the Bupe dose is so low in the patch that it's highly unlikely this is the entire cause. I'm more concerned about the 6 mg of Klonopin a day. I hope you know 6 mg of Klonopin daily is a relatively high dose. You also didn't mention if you're overweight, or have asthma or any breathing problems.
Nicely put.
Thanks Patiently W,
I just wish Jeter would respond. 31 is awfully young to start with ED. One of my BIG mistakes was when I was 32 I went to a smoke enders meeting. There were all age people there, including men in their 40's and 50's. (Now remember this was about quitting tobacco) A few of the older men asked me privately about my erections and I replied they were fine. And then 3 men told me that if I wanted them to be fine in my 40's and 50's I better quit smoking then. I didn't, because back then very little was known about how an erection occurs. I just didn't believe it. But they were right. Oh course a very bad groin rash in my late 30's did me harm too. But tobacco is a killer. I never did steroids, but I also heard they were erection killers. I was told these 20 something year old guys do steroids to attract girls, which may or may not work.
Your Butran patch is not the cause of erection problems or probably anything else. It gives a very low dose of opiates. If you are feeling that good, it's either from some other drug that you are taking or a manic problem which may be a good part of your problem. I don't know.
The steroids for 3 years, all the Lortabs and my God, 6 mg of Klonopin a day! Are you kidding? That would be enough to put everybody else into a stupor much less erection problems. Did a doctor really prescribe that kind of dose to you? What for? It sounds dangerous to me. But it is also highly addictive in most people, so you probably can't taper off by yourself.
What are your pain or health problems other than being addicted to all these drugs? It sounds like you need serious rehab unless you can explain why you are seeking all these drugs and whether doctors are really prescribing them to you.
You sound too high to pay much attention to my posting, but I am worried about you.
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I did not read anything in the post about illegal activity.. in fact he listed his doctors findings and listed back problems.
Oh, so "it got me high. Had a great job at Ford making 30$ an hour was buying 20 tabs a day" sounds legal to you?
Another nicer way I would give constructive words would have been.. get your meds only from a prescribing doctor. Agree with B that you should not take part in any illegal activity such as buying off the street. True chronic pain patients (people even near death) are dying without adequate pain control because the feds are cracking down on doctors who over write, and the streets are covered with unused and sold prescriptions.. That being said.. he is only one person and sounds as if he legally obtained the patch through his doctor.
I read over it, my apologies. I must have been speed reading..
I understand your concerns and believe me, as a chronic pain patient (and former abuser) I am well aware of what I say and how I say it and to whom I am saying it to.
All that said, I saw enough terminology in this one to where I feel I responded appropriately. I am one of those who had an increasingly hard time getting the meds I need despite the MRI, CT and X-Rays that prove me pathology. I will say it again, in this isolated case I have no compassion for this abuser. I see no convincing mention of any medical condition or handicap worthy of compassion, at least not from me.
You have seen my answers and you know me by now. When these "questions" come from folks who are so obviously just playing with street drugs (and us) I will answer accordingly, and save the compassion for the many, many others who seek help here. Come on, his erection? Pa-leeeeeeeeeeeze!
True. Very true. I retract :)