They said that more people suffer from chronic pain then cancer, diabetes and heart disease combined. These are the same doctors who will call you an addict if you take opiates for pain.
Hi, you brought up a very good point I have been meaning to comment upon. If one is long term on opiates they are addicted. It does not matter if you call it a drug addict or not. That is what happened. You see, these were the only medications available to handle pain. Now there are other medications because pain is so pervasive the drug manufacturers found out they had better develop something better. The government was persuasive to get prescription drugs off the streets because of so many addicts and upgrades to heroin. That problem with pain, is why Dr Norquist developed ibuprofen. She needed to stop the intense pain from difficult periods. A very specific drug fora very specific pain response.
Ok, here we are in 2012. People are being pushed off of addictive drugs and not receiving proper weaning OR they take it in their own hands without proper help, write in here, and suffer terribly. They ask what to use and demand from their docs. They receive testing and refusals for renewals. They become frightened and feel depressed, desperate. They are now relating to the underlying pain. And it is many times higher because the pain threshold has changed. I told my doc that I have had to,deal,with various levels of pain so long, I now recognize I am more sensitive to pain than before. Why? Because I can't get away from it. Ever. A slight increase has me dreading a big pain coming and I want help now! Would I react that way to a stubbed toe? Of course not, And they really hurt, too.
I hope that those who are struggling with this look at their situation and step back. Are they having that much pain, or are they looking for pain free life? My friend who is also in early sixties says getting older means things hurt. She is quite healthy but every morning she wakes up stiff and sore. Exercise is her friend. A walk around the block does wonders. So does the two mile walk with her grandson in a stroller. if you can walk, are you doing this? If you can't do you move around, arm exercise, whatever you can handle?
I have no idea what it is like for people who are down in FL and getting these rejections and challenges. I am fortunate because I know my doctors well and use little medication. When the pain changes my mood I will take the Vicodin. Mostly I ignore it. My sisters spine is crumbling. She has a strict exercise program to build core muscles. Went through all kinds of meds. Her biggest improvement was getting a specialist to correct her core strength. The muscles hold her spine and the pressure is off the nerves.
I do not disparage anyone in pain. Pain is pain be it physical,or emotional. And the two together can feel,insurmountable. But it can be done. I am glad the manufacturers are working on new solutions. Hang in there my friends, there is hope and solutions for you. It does take work on your end as well.
My hands are getting messed up. Neuropathy is raging and I really dislike the stinging heat. Please excuse typos and all. However, I send this with love to all who must suffer and wish you new solutions to your pain. Karen
Since I spent 40 yrs in pain before I even knew why, I've developed the ability to ignore it a good bit of the time. When it finally gets to a level I have to feel it, it surprises me sometimes. Sometimes I think it was easier for me because I don't know what its like not to have pain. Most people do. Even if the drs prescribed opiates, all they do to me is make sleep. Not something that I can handle and work too. Life goes on, we make the choice if we stay in it.
Well as you can see there are several people that have different opinions on the "Opiate" issue. And that is true with many topics and everyone has the right to there opinion. Also every "dependence" of the drug & tolerance will still be there. But just because the people that Have to take Opiates like myself get Really Frustrated when people that don't know our medical situations want to call us Drug Addicts... Really !!! I just feel that it being called a "Drug Addict" "Drug Dependent". See the Opiate users just have to wein themselves with there Dr.'s instructions off of this drug we would Not be Craving the Opiates for the Rest of our Lives like a True Addict. Physcologically we would Not Crave the drug & if they are able to find a New drug that is what we will do is wein ourselves off of the Opiates and then go onto the New drug. And as long as the new drug helped with our pain we would not go through life saying... I have to get a fix of Opiates...
I understand that you take Vicodin occasionally but the people on Opiates would have "tried" Vicodin at the very beginning of there pain management.
But obviously it did not work if they had to go onto Opiates. Plus you have to take into consideration that every person has a different pain tolerance.
I am happy that the Vicodin helps with your pain & that you are able to live a productive life.
Unfortunately the people like myself We Need the Opiates just to be able to ease our pain were we can still function usually at a very limited condition.
I know what pain is also I have lived with it for about 30 years now. And unfortunately since my conditions keep increasing the pain is also. I know I will Never be able to live a "pain free" life & I have known that for several years. I have been through physical & occupational therapy so many time unfortunately they havent helped. So all i can ask for is to live my live as best a i can & the Opiates make it where I can still function somewhat.
I also think that if Opiates were taken off of the drugs manufactured & a New drug was not replaced that helped as well you would find that people would end up going to Nursing Homes earlier & Suiciedes would be high among Chronic Pain patient,.
Sorry to be so long winded.. this is Definately a Very Touchy subject for people in Chronic Pain. I Wish You and everyone in this site to listen to there bodies & get the best Dr's out there to keep you functioning without having to endure Devestating & Crucifying pain.
This analogy has been made many many times, yet it's still true.
If we use the definition of addiction instead of dependence then diabetics are addicts too. And the list goes on. People are just plain ignorant, lazy about thinking things through, and self-centered, they don't see the "other guys" pain as important or real. Easier to stereotype med taking with addicts, black and white stupidity. They would be the first one screaming for relief if they "experienced" chronic pain. Compassion is not a valued commodity in this world, eternal youth seeking is, and thats all fear based.
Hello. Seem to be misunderstood still. Language can be confusing.
From my 2214 page Websters Unabridged Dictionary the following definitions are given:
Addiction: 1) the state of being enslaved in a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.
Dependence: 1) the state of relying on or needing someone or something for aid, support, or the like.
Since I am very careful with language and spend plenty of time in meditation and study, I believe that I properly identified the issue and that where people are getting confused is using the word: addict. It is the third definition of this word that refers to a street drug addict.
These words of addict and addiction do have separate meanings. My doctors and celebrity Dr Oz, Dr Gupta, Dr Phil, are in agreement with this terminology. they all agree that being on a prescription does not mean someone is not addicted. Increasing dosing over time demonstrates the addiction. If a person feels high they are taking too much. That IS a street addict with a legit source.
People using narcotics for real pain are not street addicts. They are addicted and they are dependent on these powerful medications. And that is the same as the street addict definition and that is why people are so defensive when they say they are being treated like a drug addict.
FYI: diabetics are dependent on insulin not as a habit but as a life saving drug. Just like taking thyroid medicine or nitro glycerin for heart problems. Again, terminology confusion.
People in pain have choices these days. How very fortunate for them. How fortunate for me as my disease continues to ramp up. I don't care what these things are called. Dying and coming back has taught me to drop all this drama. I wish you each to find your solution.
ps. Compassion is for all beings, not just those one chooses. compassion is ethics and love for all living beings. It is at the core of one who has learned tolerance and patience. It is not an artificial state of mind for the moment. It is always, pervasive and the way to lead ones life. It is not easy but once fully realized is true freedom.
Somehow this discussion has drifted away from the original question/statement, and has become a battle of semantics that is being parsed.
My answer to the question is that it's very hypocritical of doctors acknowledging that many suffer severe pain from just car wrecks-if nothing else, never mind nerve damage caused by surgeries, shingles, fibromy-whatever-and the FDA and DEA all act like we're dopies, wanting to nod off after that fix--- Perhaps the message on the "The Doctors" was really a message about the problems that patients have and the sanctions that doctors face in treating pain.
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