I am on my 3rd day of .25 of suboxone after 2 & 1/2 years on it. Was very difficult from .50 to .25. Have been encouraged by others posting on the support forum, but need to hear some words of support. Am terrified of the skipping one day to begin on Thursday. Will try with my whole heart to follow the 1-2-3-4 day skips. Want to be clean like so many others. Anxiety is my biggest demon right now. Any words of wisdom?
We have several things in common including where we are in the subs taper. I am at about day 8 or 9 of .25. One thing that has helped me is that I started walking for exercise as per mpvt's advice, about 2 months ago. It helped me, and if you can do it without going at it so hard at first that you get shin splints or sore legs and stop, it will help. It helps release endorphins and those help mentally and physically. I also have an appointment with a doctor next wednesday to start an antidepressant. I have struggled with anxiety based depression all my life but for the past 2 1/2 years, it has come hard off and on. I also go to counseling often, for the support. The support here is incredible. I am not going as fast as Robert says, but, I am doing what has worked for me in the past. I will probably stay for another week or so at .25 before I try to skip. I am going to let the antidepressant start doing it's thing.
Be sure to friend request Booter42, Sweetlemon, Subzero, ChristineATU, Maso, and Misled, their private messages as well as their support on here really helped me. You know you have done an extremely huge thing with the taper, right. Most people on subs are not told to taper and don't even try unless something drastic happens. If you can go for some type of therapy, group or individual, it will also help with your goal of getting off and staying supported. There are a couple of meds they sometimes will add to the subs program to help with anxiety, clonidine is one of them, it is a blood pressure pill that somehow helps depression in opiate quitters as well as several other conditions. My subs doctor does not normally prescribe it, but, I am going to ask the doctor that I have the wednesday appointment with.There is also the Thomas recipe, you can google that as the Thomas recipe opiate withdrawal and find not only the list of over the counter meds and supplements that help people coming off pain meds, but there is also a journal that Thomas kept for how he felt each day that he quit opiates. You do have to watch mixing supplements and vitamins with RX's but, you can probably ask the pharmacist if it will be ok. I think he did take valium or xanax or something too, and you may or may not be able to take that as you taper off and start skipping. Go to YouTube.com and look up SuboxDoc ( aka Dr. Jeffrey Junig, a psychiatrist who has been where we are) and look at his vids, he has tapes for sale where he recommends a specific way to get off subs, he has a website, forum, 1 800# and write the appropriate info down where you have access to it. There are other people who have posted vids about their experience getting off subs, but, I warn you, they didn't all do it the right way and some you may want to click off, do so if you are getting more scared when you watch them vs. inspired. I have got you in my Prayers Pattycake, Hope things go well, Please update us.
I’m on .50 I already did the one day skip and I was so scared, but I made it through. My worst problem was the lack of energy and a bit of depression. Then I did the two day skip. The same as the first day but longer and even more tired. I don’t sleep well at night. There where times I had to take it 10 min at a time but I made it through. Today I got to take my dose. Which I still can’t feel and it’s been an hour an a half. I’m not sick. Next three days. I’m not looking forward to this I have a child to take care of and I don’t get any help. But I guess it’s the last step and only one more dose left. If you have any questions just ask me on my thread. You can also read how hard this process was on me. I wish I could find some other threads where people have finished this. You can find me under general im fatcat and this will be my journal.
Patty, Patti gave you some great info to get you motivated. She is truly inspirational. Why on God's green earth she would mention me, is mind boggling. You guys are so far ahead of me it ain't funny. I'm still addicted to pain meds, suboxone for me is a thing of the future. Someday, depending on how my next surgery turns out, I too hope to ween down and eventually get on something that will help the wd's. It scares the hell out of me to tell the truth. As it stands now, depending on my MRI friday, I'm looking at another year of recovery, if I can recover at all. Only time will tell. I find out the damage caused by a bad fall I took 7 months post op from burst fractures in my mid spine. I have permanent nerve damage, pain so bad that if I had bullets, well, no I'm too chicken to do that. But that's how bad it is right now. But even prior to my fall, I had problems that needed surgical intervention.
But my surgeon needed to only drill a few small holes to do something with the hardware in my back. But now I have a feeling it will be a full incision ... again. Listen to Patti. She knows her stuff and is a wonderful support system all on her own. I know I will need her when I find out the news. Walking for me right now is out of the question, I can barely get by with a walker. But somehow, someday, I will get there!! Stay strong and get this thing done!
Take care and God bless you and Patti,
Pattycakes, Whatever you do stay away from people who can influence you,in the wrong way.Remember people who continue to do drugs, are not having the same mine set as you.Your on a different trip then they!Your destiny is quite dfferent than theres,and before you know it,they can trp you up as they are not at the point in life as you unless they have willingly went out and found treatment for there selves.I met this lady right before I moved from my old apartment and shes a good old country girl from West Virginia.However she also does pills and knows no one hear to get them from!
So naturally shes all around me, cause she knows at one time, I to was on the look out for drugs all the tme.Ive friended her,and tryed to talk her into gettng off of them.She's made it seem as if she's not doing them anymore NOT true,shes just as bad as always, and would love to see me right in the same as boat as her.Last week I realized that as the more I read about the suboxone the more I feel as if Ive been swindled again!!! Dont know about you but since Ive been on the Suboxone the only people that come around are the ones who cant take there meds right, and are pill seeking to keep from going through withdrawl from there maintenence drugs.And that is why I moved and have chose to stay away from people because This means more to me than anything else!! And the last little while has been very hard Ive been quite depressed and very weak in my determinaton! And guess whos been right there?? offering her assistance! And "SAYS" oh I dont want to be the one who leads you back to drugs?? She says shes trying to be understanding of my feelings!! Because I had all that back surgery and also because Im facing knee replacements!! Had Pattishann not been here as, I went through this,I would have just said Fu#k it !! And went back to drugs!! Ive had a long hall with the whole 9 yards.I've been through 11 rehabs and all for alcohol because of wrong diagnosis.I had back surgery 2xs in 95-96, 6 weeks apart after laying up unable to walk for 9 months.My son was 9 yrs old.I worked as a extrusion operator for 91/2 yrs and lifted 55bs bags everyday repetitivly,and ruined my back and my knees apparently a s they are giving me all kinds of trouble now.I spent all $57,000 on nothing,I was left with a drug addiction that I knew absolutely nothng about, and have done drugs on and off,here and there socially all my life and drank and never had any addiction problems. When I went to court to end my workers comp suit the doctors were paid and gone,and no one had told me of any addiction or mentioned the discomfort of coming off of opiates and so I went through all the depression and fatique not knowng what was going on !! And someone that knew what would happen,handed me a piece of crack and a pipe and 5months later,I was pretty much broke close to suicide facing a dvorce,disabled,strung out on now opiates and crack,and know one to give a sh#t because no one knew what was going on I had changed from a little southern country girl,to right outside of a common prostitute and drug junkie!! My children were crushed! Especially the oldest one who is now a school teacher,that I never see because he says he just doesent want anymore disapointments in life! Hes got a sad awakening coming.But thats life on lifes terms... But soon all this will be behind me,if I stay strong and believe me Im trying,the depression is horrible but so s the addiction,I am gonna be drug free and its not gonna be long.Its a good thing in my opinion to use the Sub and get off of it.Patti noticed the other day that the naloxone in it blocks endorphins on top of everything else that sucks I just hope it ddnt mean blocked making them,the whole time we are on the subs,Ive gotton to the point that I cry for nothing but Im gonna have the last laugh.Some people wonder how I hadnt klled myself when I found out I was a opiate addict instead of a alcoholic I was devastated,in shock to say the least all that money for nothing all that time this went on for the last 14yrs now me fighting for my sobriety!But at least I can face myself now in the mirror and not throw something at it.At least I can go up town and face people,and at least my chidren will know before its over that if they ever get in a situation like this,they can fight and they can win!!! That means everything to me,to be able to have the strenth to fight every day,cause that means, God aint through with me yet,Im still worth his while,and that lets me know theres always gonna be Joy in the morning,and strenth for another day. God bless you and hang in there hold on with everything you got,dont give up!!! I promise you, your not the only one going through this,Im right here with you,Ive got tears running down my face as I type but thats o.k.,These are gonna be tears well worth crying,in the end I can da$n sure say I fought the fu#king devil and I won... And so can you!!! God bless. Carol
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