Well here it goes... sorry if this becomes quite long. I am a 27 year old female. I weigh about 100 lbs and am 5'1" tall and am on a 20 vicodin/norco pill a day habit and I have to quit. I know the damage it is doing to my body and my depression... which is why I began taking the hydrocodone in the first place... has gotten 100x worse. During the times I am not on the drug I am a suicidal, crying, helpless mess who cannot do anything but writhe in self-pity and cry for God to strike me dead. I have tried over 30 different medications for depression/bipolar and anxiety, many having life threatening results, none working and the first time I took a vicodin I thought it was a miracle drug. It was for 2 years when I was successfully using it only during moments of severe depression or when I was having thoughts of suicide or self-harming. I was taking no more than about 6 a week for two years. I was finally able to hold down a job, go out in public, make friends, clean my house, go to school, get a degree, I was on top of the world. I could not do ANY of this before the hydrocodone. Well then my job became more than stressfull and a few of my girlfriends were taking the pills recreationally and so I began taking them just to "feel good" rather than when I really needed them. As a result I am now addicted. I have no health insurance and the cheapest rehab center here in the Dallas/Fort Worth area is $7500 cash up front which I don't have. I support my habit though friends giving me pills, doctors scripts and sometimes paying $5 a pill which is paid for with my weekly income. I do not have large amounts of cash sitting in the bank to pay for rehab or I would be there already. I am considering talking to a doctor about suboxone. When I mention this I get people from both ends giving me all sorts of reasons why I should or shouldn't take it. I do not drink nor have I ever been addicted to anything else in my life. I am at a point that if I don't stop now I will be dead before I'm 30. I can no longer work and cannot get out of bed in the mornings without taking 3 pills... then 3 more at 10am then 3 more at noon... etc. The risk of becoming addicted to the sub seems worth the risk to save my liver and my life. Is there anyone out there who has successfully overcome this addiction using suboxone? Since it is only administered in a doctors office what are the chances of me becoming addicted to it too? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I am new here and open to anything right now. Thanks :)
If you decide to try the suboxone then you should use it only as a detox. Buprenorphine makes hydrocodone look like asprin. So a 6 week detox using a small amount of bupreirphine will help you get your addiction under control. Make sure the prescribing doctor is in agreement of a 6 week detox and no more. Do not use this as a replacement as you have only been abusing for a relitively short time (3 years abuse + 2 years recreational). So the good news is your brain and body haven't yet gone through the chemical changes that would put you in a different position. Stop this now while you have a chance... dave
mvpt is giving you very good advice. Find a good doctor and be honest and open. For many people, it's hard just to admit having a problem, let alone DO something about it. Don't be nervous about going through this, be proud of yourself for having the courage to seek out help. There are many people here going through the same addiction. Some day very soon, you'll be able to look back and say, "What was I thinking?" Not only will you feel better physically, you'll be feeling emotionally healthy too! Not to mention the money you'll be saving. Wishing you the best,
I was using about the same, and went on suboxone. I only speak for myself about this, as suboxone did not help me. I was prescribed 16 mgs a day, 2 8mg pills a day. I was also withdrawing from xanax which was prescribed to me for years. I was on suboxone for 3 months and always felt ill, I tried to talk to my dr but he didnt want to listen. He wanted me to stay on for a year, but I felt horrrible on it, but when I came off it I couldnt deal with the withdrawals, it was horrible. I wish I would hAVE TAPERED OFF of the vicodin instead of becoming addicted to suboxone. It is my personal hell and its hard as I went right back to vicodin nbecause the withdrawals were to hard for me. I have read alot of different experiences, maybe I was given to high of a dose of suboxone. I do hope you find help, the right doctor who knows how to help and listens. The suboxone cost me about 10 dollars a pill as there is no generic.
I dont believe in staying on suboxone long enough that the body becomes addicted, as it is harder for me the withdrawals than the vicodins ever were. I am not an expert, just telling my story. I pray for you, I know its hard when money becomes an issue with either situation. Research suboxone , I didnt, I would have rather tapered off the vic's. But if you dont have any and suboxone is a choice, it does help with withdrawals, but the withdrawals from long term suboxone truly are horrible, at least I failed. Dont let that stop you if you want to try, maybe the amount of time on suboxone maKES A DIFFERENCE. Alot of people can give you advice on here, and everyone does have different experiences. Good luck
Those who say that Suboxone makes hydrocodone look like heroin or whatever it is that was said is stupid. I have been on Suboxone for almost 3 years, and I consider it a miracle drug. Not only did it get me off an 800 mg oxycontin a day habit, that transformed into a 2 g heroin a day habit, but it has given me back my work ethic, my personality, and taken away my depression. I thank the makers of suboxone from the bottom of my heart for creating such a wonder drug, and I would suggest that anyone with an issue with Opiates, to seek professional suboxone help immediately. Valhalla place in woodbury,mn is the most amazing place I have run across in my entire life. The people who work there, as well as the Dr. in charge, and chuck; the director, are amazing.
I didnt think that I could overcome what I did, and starting in a small town called Hermiston Oregon, and ending in the inner city of minneapolis MN, now am not only a professional, but am an over full time student at Minnesota State working towards my Law degree. You can overcome this addiction. It is just pills, dont let them control you. I understand the feeling of WD, but you can think through it well enough to seek the help you need. Have faith, and reply as needed. It is possible. I promise, I AM LIVING PROOF.
Try to taper off the norco first. I can tell u firsthand kicking a 12 pill lortab habit was a lot easier than trying to get off suboxone. I beat the norco habit with help from my wife. My doc told me to reduce one pill a day every three days. If you are taking 20 immediately reduce to 18 or 19 for three days and drop by one or two every three days. The lower you get the harder ir will be but know there is an end in sight. The last few days will be the hardest but then you are done. I promise it is the best feeling ever. Just don't be stupid like me and go and get hooked on oxy a few months later. I am now trying to taper off hydro condone and it is tough but doable. If you can't taper off the narco by reducing then sub ozone is the second best option in my opinion.
u no ,everybody that goes on suboxone,is at least 90 % in what i call the "denial stage "sort of when u go score 100 norcs or vics everyone thinks,ill just quit or start slowin down when these are done !people dont realize that u have to want to quit from the bottom of your soul,sub is not some wonder drug that is gonna get u a good buzz but off your habit pills,all it does is make u feel normal ,normal like the feeling where u are bored and want a little pep or head change!if u want to stop then sub will work,if u still are sayin to yourself ,well if i could just wean myself down to two a day and ill be fine ,then dont even waste your time ,youll be back in no time !sort of off the subject but from a guy who has been eating 4- 6 norcos a day with a few pauses for 15 years and every once in awhile half an oxy or roxy with it ,if you are in the beginning stages of eating pills just be like me an understand that your bodys gonna want you to eat more n more which is ...
worthless cause 10 at a time will soon feel less than when u ate 1 for your first time ,just eat the amount the dam bottle says to eat ,2 every 4 hour to 6 hours as needed and remember there just to take the edge off ,not for a huge buzz and stick with norco cause the pain med in vicoden wont kill ya ,u can take that forever,its the the tylenol that will eat you up over time ,just like alcohol,if u really need sub oxone to get off ,then do it,but do it for a week and get off ,its like a screwdriver ,its a tool to getting screws in or out ,but if u just hold the tool and dont turn it,it wont do it by itself !ive gotten off a few times cause of reasons with parole officers n so forth ,and all u got to do ,is roll yourself a fat marijuanna joint ,take a few puffs throughout the day ,eat a quarter to a half xanax to sleep for a week then stand up like a man and live your life !not that hard ,all physical for first week ,all mental there on out !sub is embarrasing to ask for,stays on your file and is expensive ,lock yourself indoors with a quart of whiskey,a couple good movies and oh yea,dont forget to invite maryjane over ...
I don't understand why your doctor has not sent you to a pain clinic. Maybe he has. My wife was hooked on Vicodin she was taken for pain. She was put in the hospital for three days for withdrawals, which she handled very well.she is now clean and happy. She to had the help of suboxone. The doctor is in Ann Arbor, mi Good luck
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